“Yall voted for this”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is more strict than Fairfax County. Here is the FCPD pursuit policy. Check out Section V.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/sites/police/files/assets/generalorders/go-504.pdf

They can’t pursue motorcycles.

They can’t pursue motorists that flee a traffic stop.

Police pursuits are a known hazard and have been for decades — on balance, high speed chases, especially of people who may not even be suspected of committing a violent crime, make places less safe, not more. If the entire gripe about MPD’s new policies boils down to “they can’t chase dirt bikes,” I have even less sympathy for this argument than I realized.

Pursuits can be dangerous and result in damages and injuries, but many times suspects run because they are criminals.

“The suspect was identified as 22-year-old Jamarior Jackson.

He was taken to a hospital for a collapsed lung and a broken back and neck. Police searched the vehicle and found narcotics, marijuana, a Glock pistol and equipment to turn the gun into an automatic firearm.

Jackson was charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm, a felon in possession of ammunition, possession of a magazine over 20 rounds in Fairfax County, possession of an unregistered machine gun, felony hit and run, attempted carjacking and reckless driving.”

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/virginia/fairfax-county/vsp-man-tries-to-climb-into-car-window-gets-ran-over-during-police-pursuit-on-i-95-in-fairfax-county/

Yes, but if they haven't just committed or aren't in the middle of committing a violent crime, we might all be better off if police don't chase them and instead try to find them at another time that's less disruptive for the people near the pursuit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is more strict than Fairfax County. Here is the FCPD pursuit policy. Check out Section V.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/sites/police/files/assets/generalorders/go-504.pdf

They can’t pursue motorcycles.

They can’t pursue motorists that flee a traffic stop.

Police pursuits are a known hazard and have been for decades — on balance, high speed chases, especially of people who may not even be suspected of committing a violent crime, make places less safe, not more. If the entire gripe about MPD’s new policies boils down to “they can’t chase dirt bikes,” I have even less sympathy for this argument than I realized.

Pursuits can be dangerous and result in damages and injuries, but many times suspects run because they are criminals.

“The suspect was identified as 22-year-old Jamarior Jackson.

He was taken to a hospital for a collapsed lung and a broken back and neck. Police searched the vehicle and found narcotics, marijuana, a Glock pistol and equipment to turn the gun into an automatic firearm.

Jackson was charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm, a felon in possession of ammunition, possession of a magazine over 20 rounds in Fairfax County, possession of an unregistered machine gun, felony hit and run, attempted carjacking and reckless driving.”

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/virginia/fairfax-county/vsp-man-tries-to-climb-into-car-window-gets-ran-over-during-police-pursuit-on-i-95-in-fairfax-county/

Yes, but if they haven't just committed or aren't in the middle of committing a violent crime, we might all be better off if police don't chase them and instead try to find them at another time that's less disruptive for the people near the pursuit.

Is reckless driving sufficiently violent or do we need to wait until they crash?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is more strict than Fairfax County. Here is the FCPD pursuit policy. Check out Section V.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/sites/police/files/assets/generalorders/go-504.pdf

They can’t pursue motorcycles.

They can’t pursue motorists that flee a traffic stop.

Police pursuits are a known hazard and have been for decades — on balance, high speed chases, especially of people who may not even be suspected of committing a violent crime, make places less safe, not more. If the entire gripe about MPD’s new policies boils down to “they can’t chase dirt bikes,” I have even less sympathy for this argument than I realized.

Pursuits can be dangerous and result in damages and injuries, but many times suspects run because they are criminals.

“The suspect was identified as 22-year-old Jamarior Jackson.

He was taken to a hospital for a collapsed lung and a broken back and neck. Police searched the vehicle and found narcotics, marijuana, a Glock pistol and equipment to turn the gun into an automatic firearm.

Jackson was charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm, a felon in possession of ammunition, possession of a magazine over 20 rounds in Fairfax County, possession of an unregistered machine gun, felony hit and run, attempted carjacking and reckless driving.”

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/virginia/fairfax-county/vsp-man-tries-to-climb-into-car-window-gets-ran-over-during-police-pursuit-on-i-95-in-fairfax-county/

Yes, but if they haven't just committed or aren't in the middle of committing a violent crime, we might all be better off if police don't chase them and instead try to find them at another time that's less disruptive for the people near the pursuit.

So they should wait until he fires that machine gun into a crowd at a house party?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is more strict than Fairfax County. Here is the FCPD pursuit policy. Check out Section V.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/sites/police/files/assets/generalorders/go-504.pdf

They can’t pursue motorcycles.

They can’t pursue motorists that flee a traffic stop.

Police pursuits are a known hazard and have been for decades — on balance, high speed chases, especially of people who may not even be suspected of committing a violent crime, make places less safe, not more. If the entire gripe about MPD’s new policies boils down to “they can’t chase dirt bikes,” I have even less sympathy for this argument than I realized.

Pursuits can be dangerous and result in damages and injuries, but many times suspects run because they are criminals.

“The suspect was identified as 22-year-old Jamarior Jackson.

He was taken to a hospital for a collapsed lung and a broken back and neck. Police searched the vehicle and found narcotics, marijuana, a Glock pistol and equipment to turn the gun into an automatic firearm.

Jackson was charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm, a felon in possession of ammunition, possession of a magazine over 20 rounds in Fairfax County, possession of an unregistered machine gun, felony hit and run, attempted carjacking and reckless driving.”

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/virginia/fairfax-county/vsp-man-tries-to-climb-into-car-window-gets-ran-over-during-police-pursuit-on-i-95-in-fairfax-county/

Yes, but if they haven't just committed or aren't in the middle of committing a violent crime, we might all be better off if police don't chase them and instead try to find them at another time that's less disruptive for the people near the pursuit.

Is reckless driving sufficiently violent or do we need to wait until they crash?

OK, this guy merited a pursuit (I hadn't clicked on the link before). But he also wasn't in D.C., so it's sort of not the most helpful example for what MPD should or shouldn't do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is more strict than Fairfax County. Here is the FCPD pursuit policy. Check out Section V.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/sites/police/files/assets/generalorders/go-504.pdf

They can’t pursue motorcycles.

They can’t pursue motorists that flee a traffic stop.

Police pursuits are a known hazard and have been for decades — on balance, high speed chases, especially of people who may not even be suspected of committing a violent crime, make places less safe, not more. If the entire gripe about MPD’s new policies boils down to “they can’t chase dirt bikes,” I have even less sympathy for this argument than I realized.

Pursuits can be dangerous and result in damages and injuries, but many times suspects run because they are criminals.

“The suspect was identified as 22-year-old Jamarior Jackson.

He was taken to a hospital for a collapsed lung and a broken back and neck. Police searched the vehicle and found narcotics, marijuana, a Glock pistol and equipment to turn the gun into an automatic firearm.

Jackson was charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm, a felon in possession of ammunition, possession of a magazine over 20 rounds in Fairfax County, possession of an unregistered machine gun, felony hit and run, attempted carjacking and reckless driving.”

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/virginia/fairfax-county/vsp-man-tries-to-climb-into-car-window-gets-ran-over-during-police-pursuit-on-i-95-in-fairfax-county/

Yes, but if they haven't just committed or aren't in the middle of committing a violent crime, we might all be better off if police don't chase them and instead try to find them at another time that's less disruptive for the people near the pursuit.

Is reckless driving sufficiently violent or do we need to wait until they crash?

OK, this guy merited a pursuit (I hadn't clicked on the link before). But he also wasn't in D.C., so it's sort of not the most helpful example for what MPD should or shouldn't do.

MPD has a very strict pursuit policy. Almost anyone that drives away gets away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't recall ATVs being on a ballot? I don't recall a ballot measure saying police can't do the job either.

Low information voters like this who are not aware of the law is exactly who the cop was talking about.

It was not on the ballot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't recall ATVs being on a ballot? I don't recall a ballot measure saying police can't do the job either.

Low information voters like this who are not aware of the law is exactly who the cop was talking about.

It was not on the ballot.

When you vote for ultra progressives, it’s a package deal. You get all the crazy policies just for a single vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't recall ATVs being on a ballot? I don't recall a ballot measure saying police can't do the job either.

Low information voters like this who are not aware of the law is exactly who the cop was talking about.

It was not on the ballot.

Even lower information than I realized if you don't understand how the lawmaking process works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't recall ATVs being on a ballot? I don't recall a ballot measure saying police can't do the job either.

Low information voters like this who are not aware of the law is exactly who the cop was talking about.

It was not on the ballot.

When you vote for ultra progressives, it’s a package deal. You get all the crazy policies just for a single vote.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't recall ATVs being on a ballot? I don't recall a ballot measure saying police can't do the job either.

Low information voters like this who are not aware of the law is exactly who the cop was talking about.

It was not on the ballot.

When you vote for ultra progressives, it’s a package deal. You get all the crazy policies just for a single vote.

+1000

+1. See: Frumin, Matthew

[Anonymous]

You voted in the current DC leadership.

The current leadership lied to you about the increasing crime rate, while ignoring crime victims entirely.

You created this pro-crime society in DC.

So stop complaining about trump trying to clean up the mess you created.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You voted in the current DC leadership.

The current leadership lied to you about the increasing crime rate, while ignoring crime victims entirely.

You created this pro-crime society in DC.

So stop complaining about trump trying to clean up the mess you created.

Trump is not addressing crime in DC. Nothing he is doing benefits me as a DC citizen.

The federal law enforcement in DC is primarily focused on on arresting and deporting undocumented immigrants. The vast majority of these are non violent. This is not the primary or even a major source of crime in the area.

The National Guard, which isn't even allowed to arrest citizens and has no jurisdiction over crime, is just walking around or, occasionally, gardening. I mostly see them standing around or, occasionally, arguing with local citizens who are asking them why they are here and pointing out that there is nothing for them to do.

There may be some deterrent impact on crime of the of the sheer volume of NG and federal officers in DC. However, unless the plan is to keep these people in DC indefinitely, that will evaporate the second the go. It's incredibly expensive to have all of these officers and soldiers in DC and is coming at the expense of other national priorities. So they will go, and we will return to the crime issues we had before this stunt, with the same issues of funding and recruitment for MPD, the same problems with community trust, illegal guns on the street, poverty, and violence from the suburbs coming into the city.

He's done nothing. I loath both Muriel Bowser and the DC Council and think they've done a terrible job with crime since the pandemic. But Trump hasn't solved anything here. Like most GOP politicians in DC, he's just using the city as a political football to score points with a constituency who lives far from here and has never set foot in the city.