“Yall voted for this”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.

Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.

1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).

None of those statistics mean that being a police officer is more dangerous than being a roofer. There are a lot more cops in America than roofers, so the fact that more police officers were (however terribly) killed on the job than roofers doesn't affect the odds of being killed or injured in either line of work. It's true that the way police officers are hurt or killed on the job is usually more violent than the way roofers are, but that also doesn't make it inherently more dangerous.

Anyway, police officers deserve all of our thanks for putting themselves in the line of however much danger they face. But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.

But being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than any job, besides other first responders and maybe airline crew. An attorney is usually not going to get a gunshot or knife wound sitting at their desk typing briefs. It's a very real risk for law enforcement officers.

No, it’s not exponentially more dangerous than any other job. It’s definitely more dangerous than being a lawyer or whatever, yes, but there are actual rankings of the most dangerous jobs, and being a police officer is not one of them.

+1

There are some posters on this thread that do no understand statistics or basic number sense to be honest. Exponential has an actual meaning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let me remind everyone how traffic laws work in DC:

12 year old driving an ATV down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour: no penalty

Moped driver blowing stop sign at 40 mph: no penalty

Motorcyclist blowing stop sign at 40 mph: no penalty

Cyclist with infant placed in basket in front of bike: no penalty

Cyclist with two small children on back with no helmets: no penalty

Car driver going 50 mph in a 25 mph zone with no traffic cameras: no penalty

Car driver doesnt stop at stop sign for full three seconds at empty intersection with camera: $100, doubled after 30 days

That's a whole lot of words to tell us that you don't understand the meaning of "stop".

And you similarly were too verbose yourself, when a simple “I’m an idiot” would’ve sufficed.

Well, here’s an idiot who doesn’t understand basic directions, is bitterly upset about the consequences that flow from that, and yet still sees fit to call other people idiots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.

OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.

Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.

They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.

Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities

Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.

What happened to your recall effort?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.

OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.

Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.

They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.

Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities

Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.

What happened to your recall effort?

Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.

OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.

Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.

They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.

Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities

Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.

What happened to your recall effort?

Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.

Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.

Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.

1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).

None of those statistics mean that being a police officer is more dangerous than being a roofer. There are a lot more cops in America than roofers, so the fact that more police officers were (however terribly) killed on the job than roofers doesn't affect the odds of being killed or injured in either line of work. It's true that the way police officers are hurt or killed on the job is usually more violent than the way roofers are, but that also doesn't make it inherently more dangerous.

Anyway, police officers deserve all of our thanks for putting themselves in the line of however much danger they face. But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.

But being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than any job, besides other first responders and maybe airline crew. An attorney is usually not going to get a gunshot or knife wound sitting at their desk typing briefs. It's a very real risk for law enforcement officers.

+1. There is a reason they wear body armor to work every day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.

Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.

1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).

None of those statistics mean that being a police officer is more dangerous than being a roofer. There are a lot more cops in America than roofers, so the fact that more police officers were (however terribly) killed on the job than roofers doesn't affect the odds of being killed or injured in either line of work. It's true that the way police officers are hurt or killed on the job is usually more violent than the way roofers are, but that also doesn't make it inherently more dangerous.

Anyway, police officers deserve all of our thanks for putting themselves in the line of however much danger they face. But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.

But being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than any job, besides other first responders and maybe airline crew. An attorney is usually not going to get a gunshot or knife wound sitting at their desk typing briefs. It's a very real risk for law enforcement officers.

+1. There is a reason they wear body armor to work every day.

Teachers wear body armor nowadays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.

I believe OP. I had a similar experience with police in VA. Drug dealing open next to ballpark where ES to MS kids play ball. Cop said there isn’t much to do except to talk to the town council.

Exactly. My DH is a LEO and had someone from the Alexandria council ride with him. The Councilmember saw a group of guys smoking pot at the bus stop and asked why he didn't stop and question them.

His response was: You all made it a civil infraction, so we are not going to put our lives on the line for a civil penalty.

Y'all voted for this indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.

Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.

1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).

None of those statistics mean that being a police officer is more dangerous than being a roofer. There are a lot more cops in America than roofers, so the fact that more police officers were (however terribly) killed on the job than roofers doesn't affect the odds of being killed or injured in either line of work. It's true that the way police officers are hurt or killed on the job is usually more violent than the way roofers are, but that also doesn't make it inherently more dangerous.

Anyway, police officers deserve all of our thanks for putting themselves in the line of however much danger they face. But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.

But being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than any job, besides other first responders and maybe airline crew. An attorney is usually not going to get a gunshot or knife wound sitting at their desk typing briefs. It's a very real risk for law enforcement officers.

+1. There is a reason they wear body armor to work every day.

Teachers wear body armor nowadays.

Prove it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.

I believe OP. I had a similar experience with police in VA. Drug dealing open next to ballpark where ES to MS kids play ball. Cop said there isn’t much to do except to talk to the town council.

Exactly. My DH is a LEO and had someone from the Alexandria council ride with him. The Councilmember saw a group of guys smoking pot at the bus stop and asked why he didn't stop and question them.

His response was: You all made it a civil infraction, so we are not going to put our lives on the line for a civil penalty.

Y'all voted for this indeed.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.

Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.

1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).

None of those statistics mean that being a police officer is more dangerous than being a roofer. There are a lot more cops in America than roofers, so the fact that more police officers were (however terribly) killed on the job than roofers doesn't affect the odds of being killed or injured in either line of work. It's true that the way police officers are hurt or killed on the job is usually more violent than the way roofers are, but that also doesn't make it inherently more dangerous.

Anyway, police officers deserve all of our thanks for putting themselves in the line of however much danger they face. But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.

But being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than any job, besides other first responders and maybe airline crew. An attorney is usually not going to get a gunshot or knife wound sitting at their desk typing briefs. It's a very real risk for law enforcement officers.

+1. There is a reason they wear body armor to work every day.

Teachers wear body armor nowadays.

So melodramatic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.

I believe OP. I had a similar experience with police in VA. Drug dealing open next to ballpark where ES to MS kids play ball. Cop said there isn’t much to do except to talk to the town council.

Exactly. My DH is a LEO and had someone from the Alexandria council ride with him. The Councilmember saw a group of guys smoking pot at the bus stop and asked why he didn't stop and question them.

His response was: You all made it a civil infraction, so we are not going to put our lives on the line for a civil penalty.

Y'all voted for this indeed.

That’s rich from the council member to ask “why aren’t you doing anything?” When they’re the ones who have made every offense a slap on the wrist. DC is the same. Maryland is the same. That teen who destroyed 121 cars in a few hours time with his little gang? They had to let him go after only 5 hrs. Police was visibly frustrated! 121 families gave to deal with losses of thousands of dollars each. You can’t even wrap your mind around this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.

Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.

1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).

None of those statistics mean that being a police officer is more dangerous than being a roofer. There are a lot more cops in America than roofers, so the fact that more police officers were (however terribly) killed on the job than roofers doesn't affect the odds of being killed or injured in either line of work. It's true that the way police officers are hurt or killed on the job is usually more violent than the way roofers are, but that also doesn't make it inherently more dangerous.

Anyway, police officers deserve all of our thanks for putting themselves in the line of however much danger they face. But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.

But being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than any job, besides other first responders and maybe airline crew. An attorney is usually not going to get a gunshot or knife wound sitting at their desk typing briefs. It's a very real risk for law enforcement officers.

+1. There is a reason they wear body armor to work every day.

Teachers wear body armor nowadays.

They don’t. Not in our area, or name the school!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.

Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.

1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).

None of those statistics mean that being a police officer is more dangerous than being a roofer. There are a lot more cops in America than roofers, so the fact that more police officers were (however terribly) killed on the job than roofers doesn't affect the odds of being killed or injured in either line of work. It's true that the way police officers are hurt or killed on the job is usually more violent than the way roofers are, but that also doesn't make it inherently more dangerous.

Anyway, police officers deserve all of our thanks for putting themselves in the line of however much danger they face. But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.

But being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than any job, besides other first responders and maybe airline crew. An attorney is usually not going to get a gunshot or knife wound sitting at their desk typing briefs. It's a very real risk for law enforcement officers.

+1. There is a reason they wear body armor to work every day.

Teachers wear body armor nowadays.

That’s just fat accentuated by ill fitting clothes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.

OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.

Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.

They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.

Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities

Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.

What happened to your recall effort?

Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.

Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.

Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.