“Yall voted for this”

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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


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There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


+1

There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”


Ah, so the idea is any criticism at all of police officers, including pointing out that Black people are disproportionately the victims of the most egregious abuses, means we don't want any laws enforced or any police work done? Are police officers that sensitive?
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


+1

There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”


Ah, so the idea is any criticism at all of police officers, including pointing out that Black people are disproportionately the victims of the most egregious abuses, means we don't want any laws enforced or any police work done? Are police officers that sensitive?


Provide us with data to support that claim. Otherwise, it is merely propaganda intended to maintain the flow of money into racist organizations like BLM.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


+1

There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”


Ah, so the idea is any criticism at all of police officers, including pointing out that Black people are disproportionately the victims of the most egregious abuses, means we don't want any laws enforced or any police work done? Are police officers that sensitive?


How many police officers do you think spend a minute of their day here?
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


+1

There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”


Ah, so the idea is any criticism at all of police officers, including pointing out that Black people are disproportionately the victims of the most egregious abuses, means we don't want any laws enforced or any police work done? Are police officers that sensitive?


Provide us with data to support that claim. Otherwise, it is merely propaganda intended to maintain the flow of money into racist organizations like BLM.


Well, the Washington Post did a long investigation that found that "Black Americans are killed at a much higher rate than White Americans," for one: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

Also, black people are far likelier than white people to say they've been treated unfairly by police: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/06/03/10-things-we-know-about-race-and-policing-in-the-u-s/

I don't really care where money goes, but I do want (a) the laws to be enforced and (b) people's civil rights not to be violated in the process. I guess that makes me a racist propagandist?
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


+1

There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”


Ah, so the idea is any criticism at all of police officers, including pointing out that Black people are disproportionately the victims of the most egregious abuses, means we don't want any laws enforced or any police work done? Are police officers that sensitive?


How many police officers do you think spend a minute of their day here?


None, but the PP was saying that BLM signs make police officers feel like people don't want the laws enforced.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


+1

There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”


Ah, so the idea is any criticism at all of police officers, including pointing out that Black people are disproportionately the victims of the most egregious abuses, means we don't want any laws enforced or any police work done? Are police officers that sensitive?


How many police officers do you think spend a minute of their day here?


None, but the PP was saying that BLM signs make police officers feel like people don't want the laws enforced.


No. Cops see BLM signs as indications that the people in that home are predisposed to not liking cops.

I would do the bare minimum (if someone was monitoring me) or less (if not) for someone I knew didn’t like me. It’s human nature. Not even gonna apologize for that.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


+1

There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”


Ah, so the idea is any criticism at all of police officers, including pointing out that Black people are disproportionately the victims of the most egregious abuses, means we don't want any laws enforced or any police work done? Are police officers that sensitive?


How many police officers do you think spend a minute of their day here?


None, but the PP was saying that BLM signs make police officers feel like people don't want the laws enforced.


No. Cops see BLM signs as indications that the people in that home are predisposed to not liking cops.

I would do the bare minimum (if someone was monitoring me) or less (if not) for someone I knew didn’t like me. It’s human nature. Not even gonna apologize for that.


The bare minimum or less? Sounds like you do "work" for MPD.
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DC is more strict than Fairfax County. Here is the FCPD pursuit policy. Check out Section V.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/sites/police/files/assets/generalorders/go-504.pdf

They can’t pursue motorcycles.

They can’t pursue motorists that flee a traffic stop.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is more strict than Fairfax County. Here is the FCPD pursuit policy. Check out Section V.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/sites/police/files/assets/generalorders/go-504.pdf

They can’t pursue motorcycles.

They can’t pursue motorists that flee a traffic stop.



Police pursuits are a known hazard and have been for decades — on balance, high speed chases, especially of people who may not even be suspected of committing a violent crime, make places less safe, not more. If the entire gripe about MPD’s new policies boils down to “they can’t chase dirt bikes,” I have even less sympathy for this argument than I realized.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


+1

There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”


+1.

There is some D-bag on Nova Reddit trying to get people to disrupt a federl hiring fair at Dulles. These people are ignorant children
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Anonymous wrote:DC is more strict than Fairfax County. Here is the FCPD pursuit policy. Check out Section V.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/sites/police/files/assets/generalorders/go-504.pdf

They can’t pursue motorcycles.

They can’t pursue motorists that flee a traffic stop.



Police pursuits are a known hazard and have been for decades — on balance, high speed chases, especially of people who may not even be suspected of committing a violent crime, make places less safe, not more. If the entire gripe about MPD’s new policies boils down to “they can’t chase dirt bikes,” I have even less sympathy for this argument than I realized.


Pursuits can be dangerous and result in damages and injuries, but many times suspects run because they are criminals.

“The suspect was identified as 22-year-old Jamarior Jackson.

He was taken to a hospital for a collapsed lung and a broken back and neck. Police searched the vehicle and found narcotics, marijuana, a Glock pistol and equipment to turn the gun into an automatic firearm.

Jackson was charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm, a felon in possession of ammunition, possession of a magazine over 20 rounds in Fairfax County, possession of an unregistered machine gun, felony hit and run, attempted carjacking and reckless driving.”

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/virginia/fairfax-county/vsp-man-tries-to-climb-into-car-window-gets-ran-over-during-police-pursuit-on-i-95-in-fairfax-county/

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Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.


OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.


Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.


They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.


Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?

The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.

You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities


Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.


What happened to your recall effort?


Exactly, we all voted for this, AGAIN. Thanks for proving OPs point.


Hardly. The recall effort failed to gather enough valid petitions — nobody voted for or against any of this.


Ironically, it was very difficult to get signatures in public because residents are justifiably afraid to stand still on the street for fear of getting hit in the head with a brick and robbed. Also, the roving bands of DSA goons stealing recall signs was not ideal.


Sure, my only point is you can’t say the fact that Allen wasn’t recalled to argue that people voted to have cops stop working.


I’m not so sure. The number of my neighbors that still have BLM signs in their windows even after that organization has been largely discredited and after 2 year crime wave is truly stunning. The police see those signs too and hear the dog whistle loud and clear. Vote or no vote.


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There is no “defund the police” without BLM; they are one in the same. Indistinguishable.

Closely related is the progressive movement:

“Abolish ICE”


Ah, so the idea is any criticism at all of police officers, including pointing out that Black people are disproportionately the victims of the most egregious abuses, means we don't want any laws enforced or any police work done? Are police officers that sensitive?


Provide us with data to support that claim. Otherwise, it is merely propaganda intended to maintain the flow of money into racist organizations like BLM.


Well, the Washington Post did a long investigation that found that "Black Americans are killed at a much higher rate than White Americans," for one: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

Also, black people are far likelier than white people to say they've been treated unfairly by police: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/06/03/10-things-we-know-about-race-and-policing-in-the-u-s/

I don't really care where money goes, but I do want (a) the laws to be enforced and (b) people's civil rights not to be violated in the process. I guess that makes me a racist propagandist?


The second paragraph in the WaPo article starts with the lie that Michael Brown was unarmed in Ferguson. It is tough to believe much after that.

The article goes on to say: Although half of the people shot and killed by police are White, Black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for roughly 14 percent of the U.S. population and are killed by police at more than twice the rate of White Americans. Hispanic Americans are also killed by police at a disproportionate rate.

The bolded may be true, but black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime, i.e., black people are responsible for more than 50% of all murders. Black people are not being hunted down by police; rather, it is more like they are meeting fire with fire.
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