Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs

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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

The AA students associations are in fact open to everyone. There were always a few non Asians in the membership. There is no "Asians only" requirement.

Seems like the name alone creates exclusions. If someone made a White Girl student association do you think a Black Man is going to feel welcome even if they claim no White or female requirement? DEI people always claim inclusion but create nothing but exclusion.

Okay, this argument is on its face nonsense, but let's just look at the philosophy here. How is ANYONE being hurt by not participating in a WOMEN in STEM club or an International club?
There is no harm, so why the frack do you care?

So I really am disappointed by this— as a women of color in engineering groups like swe and girls who code really encouraged me as a kid.

My kids school wouldn't allow formation of Girls Who Code, unless they set up a club for boys to join as well.

Boys joined our girls who code group. It was mostly girls though..

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States are just renaming programs. Basically telling Trump to F-off.

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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

Have you met MAGAs?

Unfortunately, yes.
My husband has wealthy white Southern parents. I was well aware before MAGA that these Republicans have been going MAGA for awhile. The “Heritage not Hate” justification 30 years ago for keeping the Confederate flag up on top of the South Carolina state house? The same Confederate flag that was put up in the 1960s to object to the Civil Rights Bill?
If you talked to any Republican back then they kept claiming “it’s history!” knowing darn well they were giving a middle finger to African Americans….

This white MAGA/far right Republicans/ radical Christian group will tell you one thing to save face, and laugh behind your back and do another. They have been this way for hundreds of years.

It feels like a pattern that will never be broken in America.

Yes, because white people have no problems blaming the bogeyman for all of the country's problems but won't empty their own closets of hoods, capes, and low hanging branches, both literal and figurative. I've yet to meet a white person, who isn't being paid to speak about it, talk about how it's shameful that their southern ancestors (i.e, blood ancestors) grabbed a few people and strung them up. I mean google images "public lynchings" and the pictures with 1000s of people participating are horrifying. These people and their offspring are walking amongst us now. They must number in the tens (or hundreds) of thousands.

1. Almost none of “these people” walk among us today. The vast majority are dead.

2. Do you hold every child responsible for the sins of their parents? For example, do you despise Latinos for their history of human sacrifice and slavery? Japanese for their brutality against native populations in WWII? Palestinians for their collaboration with Hitler?

Or is this a special standard that you only apply to “white people”?

None of these other groups are in the US trying to pretend their history doesn’t exist and trying to hide it.

Come on. 🤦

“Latino” or “hispanic” is it’s own category (rather than spaniard or indigenous South American) because the Spaniards who colonized what is now Latin America took indigenous wives. There was so much genetic mixing that we just say “Latino” and assume everyone speaks Spanish. Look up colorism in Latin America. It’s the equivalent of how the U.S.’s racism.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, so much hatred for white males. Or are these all trolls?

I do not think these comments are trolls. This is genuinely how many east coast, urban progressives think. They loathe white males.

Here's the problem - white people are the numerical majority in this country by a long shot. Black people are 13% of the population. Hispanic about 20%. Asian 6%. White is over 60%.

The day of the progressive is over. They can hate white people, they can hate males, but they will no longer be in power - their ideas are just not wanted by most americans. Your message that white males suck goes over like a lead balloon in texas, michigan, florida, colorado, arizonona, ohio, north carolina to name a few.

By all means, post on DCUM about how white males are stupid, unqualified, or lacking whatever. It will make you feel better!

Give me a break. No one hates males. They’re unqualified people in every race. Get over yourself. You’re sounding like a victim. Trump won 51% of the vote. Don’t get ahead of your skis.

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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

The AA students associations are in fact open to everyone. There were always a few non Asians in the membership. There is no "Asians only" requirement.

Seems like the name alone creates exclusions. If someone made a White Girl student association do you think a Black Man is going to feel welcome even if they claim no White or female requirement? DEI people always claim inclusion but create nothing but exclusion.

Okay, this argument is on its face nonsense, but let's just look at the philosophy here. How is ANYONE being hurt by not participating in a WOMEN in STEM club or an International club?
There is no harm, so why the frack do you care?

So I really am disappointed by this— as a women of color in engineering groups like swe and girls who code really encouraged me as a kid.

My kids school wouldn't allow formation of Girls Who Code, unless they set up a club for boys to join as well.

As a mom of two black boys, I’m OK with that. There is a real place for single sex education. We have taken our focus away from boys. I do believe they’ve suffered.

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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

Have you met MAGAs?

Unfortunately, yes.
My husband has wealthy white Southern parents. I was well aware before MAGA that these Republicans have been going MAGA for awhile. The “Heritage not Hate” justification 30 years ago for keeping the Confederate flag up on top of the South Carolina state house? The same Confederate flag that was put up in the 1960s to object to the Civil Rights Bill?
If you talked to any Republican back then they kept claiming “it’s history!” knowing darn well they were giving a middle finger to African Americans….

This white MAGA/far right Republicans/ radical Christian group will tell you one thing to save face, and laugh behind your back and do another. They have been this way for hundreds of years.

It feels like a pattern that will never be broken in America.

Yes, because white people have no problems blaming the bogeyman for all of the country's problems but won't empty their own closets of hoods, capes, and low hanging branches, both literal and figurative. I've yet to meet a white person, who isn't being paid to speak about it, talk about how it's shameful that their southern ancestors (i.e, blood ancestors) grabbed a few people and strung them up. I mean google images "public lynchings" and the pictures with 1000s of people participating are horrifying. These people and their offspring are walking amongst us now. They must number in the tens (or hundreds) of thousands.

1. Almost none of “these people” walk among us today. The vast majority are dead.

2. Do you hold every child responsible for the sins of their parents? For example, do you despise Latinos for their history of human sacrifice and slavery? Japanese for their brutality against native populations in WWII? Palestinians for their collaboration with Hitler?

Or is this a special standard that you only apply to “white people”?

None of these other groups are in the US trying to pretend their history doesn’t exist and trying to hide it.

Come on. 🤦

“Latino” or “hispanic” is it’s own category (rather than spaniard or indigenous South American) because the Spaniards who colonized what is now Latin America took indigenous wives. There was so much genetic mixing that we just say “Latino” and assume everyone speaks Spanish. Look up colorism in Latin America. It’s the equivalent of how the U.S.’s racism.

Brazil is huge and they speak Portuguese. Latin American is a common way to describe a person living in South America. They do have prejudices against people in other countries but kind of like your Northeast states vs Southern states. One thing most of them have in common is a mutual dislike for Argentinians.

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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

The AA students associations are in fact open to everyone. There were always a few non Asians in the membership. There is no "Asians only" requirement.

Seems like the name alone creates exclusions. If someone made a White Girl student association do you think a Black Man is going to feel welcome even if they claim no White or female requirement? DEI people always claim inclusion but create nothing but exclusion.

Okay, this argument is on its face nonsense, but let's just look at the philosophy here. How is ANYONE being hurt by not participating in a WOMEN in STEM club or an International club?
There is no harm, so why the frack do you care?

So I really am disappointed by this— as a women of color in engineering groups like swe and girls who code really encouraged me as a kid.

My kids school wouldn't allow formation of Girls Who Code, unless they set up a club for boys to join as well.

If they set up a Boys who code,or Whites who code, you’re ok with that right? Is it only special groups for certain people?

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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

The AA students associations are in fact open to everyone. There were always a few non Asians in the membership. There is no "Asians only" requirement.

Seems like the name alone creates exclusions. If someone made a White Girl student association do you think a Black Man is going to feel welcome even if they claim no White or female requirement? DEI people always claim inclusion but create nothing but exclusion.

Okay, this argument is on its face nonsense, but let's just look at the philosophy here. How is ANYONE being hurt by not participating in a WOMEN in STEM club or an International club?
There is no harm, so why the frack do you care?

So I really am disappointed by this— as a women of color in engineering groups like swe and girls who code really encouraged me as a kid.

My kids school wouldn't allow formation of Girls Who Code, unless they set up a club for boys to join as well.

If they set up a Boys who code,or Whites who code, you’re ok with that right? Is it only special groups for certain people?

I’m the PP 50 something woman and the issue is that every coding group or camp is 90% white male already. They don’t need a special group to provide them support. If you wanted a Boys in Childcare group, I’d cheer that on, or even a Boys Homework group or a Boys Social Service group. My nephew participates in a Boys Prayer Group. There are lots of spaces that are female dominated and I’d support affinity groups for boys/men to encourage their participation in areas where they may feel reluctant to engage because it is seen as too female. When my son was young and loved dancing, I considered a special boys dance class….but unfortunately his peers convinced him that dance was just for girls!

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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

The AA students associations are in fact open to everyone. There were always a few non Asians in the membership. There is no "Asians only" requirement.

Seems like the name alone creates exclusions. If someone made a White Girl student association do you think a Black Man is going to feel welcome even if they claim no White or female requirement? DEI people always claim inclusion but create nothing but exclusion.

Okay, this argument is on its face nonsense, but let's just look at the philosophy here. How is ANYONE being hurt by not participating in a WOMEN in STEM club or an International club?
There is no harm, so why the frack do you care?

So I really am disappointed by this— as a women of color in engineering groups like swe and girls who code really encouraged me as a kid.

My kids school wouldn't allow formation of Girls Who Code, unless they set up a club for boys to join as well.

If they set up a Boys who code,or Whites who code, you’re ok with that right? Is it only special groups for certain people?

I really hope you are not one of the people talking about protecting girl's spaces from trans women.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this bit was interesting:

It would, for instance, be unlawful
for an educational institution to eliminate standardized testing to achieve a desired
racial balance or to increase racial diversity.

Work around: disability, ADHD, dyslexia...test optional.

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I absolutely detest the race obsession in this country. It’s 2025…..grow up, put your nose down, or your best and stop incessantly loookng for handouts and special treatment. Utterly ridiculous people. Oh, and some personal accountability would help overcome the pervasive victim mentality across the political spectrum.

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All.the minorities who voted for trump are self flaggelating themselves, aren't they! Fools.

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Anonymous wrote:I absolutely detest the race obsession in this country. It’s 2025…..grow up, put your nose down, or your best and stop incessantly loookng for handouts and special treatment. Utterly ridiculous people. Oh, and some personal accountability would help overcome the pervasive victim mentality across the political spectrum.

Agreed. Time for white boys to put down the video games and start studying and applying themselves. Most of you don’t have real ADHD, you have just been stuck in front of a tablet your whole life and you don’t know how to think. Stop blaming everyone else for you and your parents poor decision making.

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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

Have you met MAGAs?

Unfortunately, yes.
My husband has wealthy white Southern parents. I was well aware before MAGA that these Republicans have been going MAGA for awhile. The “Heritage not Hate” justification 30 years ago for keeping the Confederate flag up on top of the South Carolina state house? The same Confederate flag that was put up in the 1960s to object to the Civil Rights Bill?
If you talked to any Republican back then they kept claiming “it’s history!” knowing darn well they were giving a middle finger to African Americans….

This white MAGA/far right Republicans/ radical Christian group will tell you one thing to save face, and laugh behind your back and do another. They have been this way for hundreds of years.

It feels like a pattern that will never be broken in America.

Yes, because white people have no problems blaming the bogeyman for all of the country's problems but won't empty their own closets of hoods, capes, and low hanging branches, both literal and figurative. I've yet to meet a white person, who isn't being paid to speak about it, talk about how it's shameful that their southern ancestors (i.e, blood ancestors) grabbed a few people and strung them up. I mean google images "public lynchings" and the pictures with 1000s of people participating are horrifying. These people and their offspring are walking amongst us now. They must number in the tens (or hundreds) of thousands.

1. Almost none of “these people” walk among us today. The vast majority are dead.

2. Do you hold every child responsible for the sins of their parents? For example, do you despise Latinos for their history of human sacrifice and slavery? Japanese for their brutality against native populations in WWII? Palestinians for their collaboration with Hitler?

Or is this a special standard that you only apply to “white people”?

None of these other groups are in the US trying to pretend their history doesn’t exist and trying to hide it.

Come on. 🤦

“Latino” or “hispanic” is it’s own category (rather than spaniard or indigenous South American) because the Spaniards who colonized what is now Latin America took indigenous wives. There was so much genetic mixing that we just say “Latino” and assume everyone speaks Spanish. Look up colorism in Latin America. It’s the equivalent of how the U.S.’s racism.

Brazil is huge and they speak Portuguese. Latin American is a common way to describe a person living in South America. They do have prejudices against people in other countries but kind of like your Northeast states vs Southern states. One thing most of them have in common is a mutual dislike for Argentinians.

You don't know what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, so much hatred for white males. Or are these all trolls?

I do not think these comments are trolls. This is genuinely how many east coast, urban progressives think. They loathe white males.

Here's the problem - white people are the numerical majority in this country by a long shot. Black people are 13% of the population. Hispanic about 20%. Asian 6%. White is over 60%.

The day of the progressive is over. They can hate white people, they can hate males, but they will no longer be in power - their ideas are just not wanted by most americans. Your message that white males suck goes over like a lead balloon in texas, michigan, florida, colorado, arizonona, ohio, north carolina to name a few.

By all means, post on DCUM about how white males are stupid, unqualified, or lacking whatever. It will make you feel better!

Give me a break. No one hates males. They’re unqualified people in every race. Get over yourself. You’re sounding like a victim. Trump won 51% of the vote. Don’t get ahead of your skis.

FYI--Trump did NOT win 51% of the popular vote. He won less than 50%. (Almost 50% but not quite, which is important to note as he "overreaches" so significantly. He never had an "overwhelming mandate" so can and will easily alienate enough people to hopefully sink the GOP in the near future given that he was starting from a very, very narrow popular win.