Same here. A normal year 70,000 employees retire. This offer is just gonna give those 70,000 employees an eight month vacation before it plus the 240 hours they have plus all the leave. They earned between now and September. It’s like the stupidest offer in the world. It saves nobody money. It doesn’t even get rid of people that were not gonna quit anyway. What do they think they’re doing? He’s so used to working with fickle 22-year-olds that he thought a whole bunch of people were gonna be like yahoo I’m gonna take an eight month vacation. What? |
Yes to all of your questions. There is one problem and it’s lawlessness. That’s it, and it has to be challenged everywhere it manifests. This concludes your civics lesson for the day. |
And I was agreeing with you, not disagreeing. "Divisive crap like this is why Dems lost," right. Just stupid. |
They’re also immediately ending all GSA leases so there will be nowhere for people to RTO to. So I doubt your theory of how this plays out is the one they will pursue. It will be RIFs. |
They’ll just use the list of those who raised their hands as a “layoff list” and go from there.
People warned everyone not to take this “deal” because if something looks too good to be true—it probably is! |
to the dream destination of your choice! |
But it would have been good PR, which is all that matters. |
The Administration agreed to send an immediate email informing employees of the pause. Anyone get it yet? It’s past FOB for EST folks who start work at 6 am… |
PAST COB. Sorry |
1. The only thing a hold on the deadline does is to keep the deadline from being enforced. If someone wanted this deal and took it, that still holds. This didn't "grab that luxe vacation out of their hands" or anything. It just made it so that the option to take the deal didn't expire at midnight tonight. 2. Down the line, if this was going to be found to be illegal, it would have happened regardless of whether the deadline was tonight at midnight, or not. There is nothing inherently mandatory about that time. So if it isn't illegal, and if it goes through as planned, allllllll those 40,000 people or whatever still get what they signed up for. (If not, they wouldn't have gotten it anyway, and there is already case law from the 90s that addresses this). 3. Finally, if it's such a great deal, then you should be praising the federal employees that didn't take it. They are saving the US government money out of the goodness of their own hearts. What's to criticize there? |
No, it would not have been. Would have not been good PR for the Democrats to take this stupid deal. It’s wasteful and it’s not based in law. |
Probationary employees — who will now be summarily fired instead — just got screwed. |
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The Fork is not stupid, it's evil. It's the definition of a scam, where empty promises are made under time pressure, and they're issued with vague threats and confusing conflicting requirements. The Fork preys on those who are gullible or stressed-out. Some Twitter employees had to sue to get their promised money. Your mistake is believing the man. These feds were never going to get their full payout, which is why there's been such a hullabaloo. The offer is worded in such terms that it can be considered threatening (it includes actual threats of termination if the offer isn't taken), plus it adds a number of loophole statements specifying that actual requirements (no work vs work, in-person vs telework) are subject to each agency's last word. And the biggest loophole of all is what it doesn't say: that Congress has only funded the government until mid-March. No one can legally promise money after that, so there goes the payout from March until September. The people who were going to quit anyway or resign thought they had nothing to lose - maybe get some extra money for a month. That's why there are so little takers. But it's not stupid, not by a long shot. Just vicious. Elon is looking to oust the low-hanging fruit. And then he's going to try to fire people for real. There is no win-win in any of this apart from the media outcry and the path through the courts to extirpate this man from the government. |
They only got screwed if that "deal" wasn't a fakeout. Want to know what the Vegas bets on this are? |