If most careers require grad school does where you get your 4 year degree really matter?

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Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

this made me laugh....but if it makes you feel better to believe this - dream on

Me too. To claim wishful thinking and then write something like “a prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.” Hit the library, undergrad, you’ve got a degree to finish.

Ha. I graduated from college 30 years ago. I speak from experience. If it makes you feel better to pretend that this is not how the world works, dream on...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

this made me laugh....but if it makes you feel better to believe this - dream on

Me too. To claim wishful thinking and then write something like “a prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.” Hit the library, undergrad, you’ve got a degree to finish.

Ha. I graduated from college 30 years ago. I speak from experience. If it makes you feel better to pretend that this is not how the world works, dream on...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Other than Ivy schools, why does it matter what 4 year you attend if most people need a graduate degree?

Also, if you don't go to grad school what benefit does a higher ranked college get you? Really curious because I feel like I am missing something?

61% of all CEOs have nothing more than a bachelor's degree. Most people get to very senior levels without a graduate degree.

My kid works for a tech start-up where 1/2 the company doesn't even have an undergraduate degree including one of the founders (and of course there are tons of famous founders without an undergraduate degree).

DD is at an Ivy and was telling me something similar recently. Most of the people she’s connecting with in the fields she’s interested in have top-tier undergraduate degrees but no graduate degrees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other than Ivy schools, why does it matter what 4 year you attend if most people need a graduate degree?

Also, if you don't go to grad school what benefit does a higher ranked college get you? Really curious because I feel like I am missing something?

61% of all CEOs have nothing more than a bachelor's degree. Most people get to very senior levels without a graduate degree.

My kid works for a tech start-up where 1/2 the company doesn't even have an undergraduate degree including one of the founders (and of course there are tons of famous founders without an undergraduate degree).

DD is at an Ivy and was telling me something similar recently. Most of the people she’s connecting with in the fields she’s interested in have top-tier undergraduate degrees but no graduate degrees.

Of course they don’t - this makes complete sense actually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

WYKYK.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

WYKYK.

Disagree. In law, no one cares where you went for undergrad. I went to a SLAC whose reputation has been sliding downhill for some time. But I was no 1 in the class so that got me into all T5 law schools. That has cachet. I go to those reunions. I went to one college reunion and it was so lame and boring that I've nevef been back. Same is true of undergrad when you go on to med school. You leave that behind

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

WYKYK.

Disagree. In law, no one cares where you went for undergrad. I went to a SLAC whose reputation has been sliding downhill for some time. But I was no 1 in the class so that got me into all T5 law schools. That has cachet. I go to those reunions. I went to one college reunion and it was so lame and boring that I've nevef been back. Same is true of undergrad when you go on to med school. You leave that behind

Lesson is to emphasize the prestige that is better for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

WYKYK.

Disagree. In law, no one cares where you went for undergrad. I went to a SLAC whose reputation has been sliding downhill for some time. But I was no 1 in the class so that got me into all T5 law schools. That has cachet. I go to those reunions. I went to one college reunion and it was so lame and boring that I've nevef been back. Same is true of undergrad when you go on to med school. You leave that behind

Maybe true for you, but not many others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

WYKYK.

Disagree. In law, no one cares where you went for undergrad. I went to a SLAC whose reputation has been sliding downhill for some time. But I was no 1 in the class so that got me into all T5 law schools. That has cachet. I go to those reunions. I went to one college reunion and it was so lame and boring that I've nevef been back. Same is true of undergrad when you go on to med school. You leave that behind

Let's face it - a major reason people pursue graduate degrees is to compensate for a degree from a lower-ranked undergraduate institution and/or having earned a degree in a soft major. Of course, certain professions, like law and medicine, require graduate school regardless of where the undergraduate degree was earned. That said, I disagree with the idea that your undergraduate degree doesn’t matter. Having elite degrees from both undergraduate and graduate schools is much more impressive - I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

WYKYK.

Disagree. In law, no one cares where you went for undergrad. I went to a SLAC whose reputation has been sliding downhill for some time. But I was no 1 in the class so that got me into all T5 law schools. That has cachet. I go to those reunions. I went to one college reunion and it was so lame and boring that I've nevef been back. Same is true of undergrad when you go on to med school. You leave that behind

Let's face it - a major reason people pursue graduate degrees is to compensate for a degree from a lower-ranked undergraduate institution and/or having earned a degree in a soft major. Of course, certain professions, like law and medicine, require graduate school regardless of where the undergraduate degree was earned. That said, I disagree with the idea that your undergraduate degree doesn’t matter. Having elite degrees from both undergraduate and graduate schools is much more impressive - I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

No one who is hiring people out of grad schools cares. And a few years after you’re out, no one cares (much) about the grad school either.

This forum is extremely funny, because you get to watch adults who are oblivious to the modern workplace argue passionately about the deep importance of where ages 18-22 are spent. And it’s sad. But mostly funny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

WYKYK.

Disagree. In law, no one cares where you went for undergrad. I went to a SLAC whose reputation has been sliding downhill for some time. But I was no 1 in the class so that got me into all T5 law schools. That has cachet. I go to those reunions. I went to one college reunion and it was so lame and boring that I've nevef been back. Same is true of undergrad when you go on to med school. You leave that behind

Let's face it - a major reason people pursue graduate degrees is to compensate for a degree from a lower-ranked undergraduate institution and/or having earned a degree in a soft major. Of course, certain professions, like law and medicine, require graduate school regardless of where the undergraduate degree was earned. That said, I disagree with the idea that your undergraduate degree doesn’t matter. Having elite degrees from both undergraduate and graduate schools is much more impressive - I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

No one who is hiring people out of grad schools cares. And a few years after you’re out, no one cares (much) about the grad school either.

This forum is extremely funny, because you get to watch adults who are oblivious to the modern workplace argue passionately about the deep importance of where ages 18-22 are spent. And it’s sad. But mostly funny.

+1

The PPs care, but maybe they peaked early.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

WYKYK.

Disagree. In law, no one cares where you went for undergrad. I went to a SLAC whose reputation has been sliding downhill for some time. But I was no 1 in the class so that got me into all T5 law schools. That has cachet. I go to those reunions. I went to one college reunion and it was so lame and boring that I've nevef been back. Same is true of undergrad when you go on to med school. You leave that behind

Let's face it - a major reason people pursue graduate degrees is to compensate for a degree from a lower-ranked undergraduate institution and/or having earned a degree in a soft major. Of course, certain professions, like law and medicine, require graduate school regardless of where the undergraduate degree was earned. That said, I disagree with the idea that your undergraduate degree doesn’t matter. Having elite degrees from both undergraduate and graduate schools is much more impressive - I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

No one who is hiring people out of grad schools cares. And a few years after you’re out, no one cares (much) about the grad school either.

This forum is extremely funny, because you get to watch adults who are oblivious to the modern workplace argue passionately about the deep importance of where ages 18-22 are spent. And it’s sad. But mostly funny.

Explain what “oblivious to the modern workplace” means.

[Anonymous]

Not a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

this made me laugh....but if it makes you feel better to believe this - dream on

Me too. To claim wishful thinking and then write something like “a prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.” Hit the library, undergrad, you’ve got a degree to finish.

Ha. I graduated from college 30 years ago. I speak from experience. If it makes you feel better to pretend that this is not how the world works, dream on...

NP here. Could you explain some of benefits conferred by the Ivy undergrad degree?

We're trying to make decisions for our oldest now and not sure how to evaluate the ROI (we're UMC but not DCUM rich and we have 3 kids). I've met and worked with lots of Ivy grads earning the same or less than I did coming from much lower tier schools. Then there are Ivy grads with really high HHI's.

Kid#1 wants to be a lawyer. I get that the prestige of the law school matters. But does the undergrad matter too?

Thanks in advance for any insight as we grapple with college decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.

WYKYK.

Disagree. In law, no one cares where you went for undergrad. I went to a SLAC whose reputation has been sliding downhill for some time. But I was no 1 in the class so that got me into all T5 law schools. That has cachet. I go to those reunions. I went to one college reunion and it was so lame and boring that I've nevef been back. Same is true of undergrad when you go on to med school. You leave that behind

Let's face it - a major reason people pursue graduate degrees is to compensate for a degree from a lower-ranked undergraduate institution and/or having earned a degree in a soft major. Of course, certain professions, like law and medicine, require graduate school regardless of where the undergraduate degree was earned. That said, I disagree with the idea that your undergraduate degree doesn’t matter. Having elite degrees from both undergraduate and graduate schools is much more impressive - I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

You obviously don't have a grad degree and your contempt for them is insane. Someday you will be thankful that your heart surgeon, or divorce lawyer, or your kid's college professor, or the therapist helping you work through a major life crisis, or the scientist that found a cure for an ailment you suffer from, didn't have an oddball attitude like yours.