Elegant comeback ideas for public school parents who

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it only OP is allowed to state where her DD got in but the other parent is not?

Because OP paid for private school. She's better than public school parents and is annoyed that those lowly public school kids might have achievements similar to her kid.

Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they will always lack the private school je ne sais quoi.

It's called "I don't know what" because nobody's exactly sure what IT is or if it's possible to have more or less of IT. But mainly IT comes down to good luck in life, confidence, and money. Luck is influenceable but random, confidence can be learned and is free. Having money is a fact.

So basically je sais what the quoi is. It's being rich. Private school = rich.

So, the post above kinda sums it up. Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they'll never be rich.

If a public school kid and a private school kid both end up at UVA...

The private school kid is going to get invited into a certain sorority or fraternity. They're going to be in different selective clubs. They're going to seek different internships. They're going to have different friends and dating pool. Why? Is all of this just totally random? No. It's their it factor opening doors. They're a member of the club, plus the certain soft skills, emotional IQ, confidence, swagger... the "aura" and "rizz" as kids say. Whatever "it" is, private kids have it. Even the dorky less social private kids have it.

So go ahead and celebrate that your kid clawed his or her way into the same college while you "saved" money sending them to a government K-12, but the fact is your kid is not on the same rung. And they never will be.

NP. I was a public school kid from NoVa at UVA. My best friend, boyfriend, and the man who I would eventually marry were all private school kids, two of the three with hefty trust funds. I was a better student than all of them, I might add.

Watch it, you might end up with a DIL or SIL who went to public school someday!

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Anonymous wrote:Any elegant comeback ideas for when a parent highlights their public school child got into the same college(s) as our private school daughter? The passive-aggressive point they are trying to make is that we wasted our money on private school tuition and we should have just stayed in the public system and would have ended up at the same place. So far, I've been using variations of "Good for you/them!"

The fact that you are looking for a comeback to this (and you are projecting something the other person didn’t say) means you are actually a wee bit insecure about this and the inference hit a nerve. It’s super weird when private school parents pretend they don’t hope their investment in tuition produces success and good college admission outcomes.

The weird thing is how public school parents don't understand that "better college placement" is not the motivation of every parent who chooses private over public. We have two children that attended (different) Big 3 and live in a very strong public district. One kid is the type to be in all the hardest classes and applying to T20 schools - the other was the type that is very smart but has some executive functioning challenges and took some highest level classes but not across the board. Both had the option to go to public HS and considered it. Both chose to go to their respective Big 3s based on other factors. As parents college placement had zero weight on this choice and it also did not factor in for the the kids. And we have never stated once to anyone that we think our private schools are better than the public option - they are just different paths - we are lucky enough to have the resources to pay private (and for private colleges too).

The weird thing is that if the above was the major reason for private OP would not be here sourcing “ an elegant comeback.” People who are secure in themselves and decisions a) don’t need them or b) when the rare occasion arises that they do, are readily able to respond.

Maybe - but it depends on when the OP started in private schools. Our kids started from K and we used to get so many comments from neighbors, some were shockingly judgmental. It takes getting used to - so if the OP started in HS then they may not have had as long to figure this out as we did. We have always taken the high ground and ignored it - but sometimes we still get people who say the most inappropriate things. People feel so compelled. Neighbors and close friends have backed off over time - probably because we have never taken their bait and maybe because they can see that we have never made a single negative statement about public schools and that we have never once implied private is better than public. But, we will sometimes still get comments from co-workers or parents on sports teams. And, I will admit that even among those that backed off over the years - some came back at college admissions time to say things. (but then again - lots of people have too much to say at college admissions time - it's like a bug to the light).

Over time - I have also learned to discuss my kids in conversations without talking too much about school - and I purposely avoid framing conversations in a way that indicates they are going to private (or even where they are in college). If someone asks, of course I answer.

Bottom line - even those of us who are reasonable and have thick skin and did not choose private for college admissions and never thought "private school is better than public" (just that we decided we liked what our private schools had to offer for our specific kids) - even with all this - we still run into people saying things similar to what OP is stating and we had to learn over time the best ways to respond and to change direction of such conversations.

OP said the other parent stated where their child was admitted. How is that inappropriate?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it only OP is allowed to state where her DD got in but the other parent is not?

Because OP paid for private school. She's better than public school parents and is annoyed that those lowly public school kids might have achievements similar to her kid.

Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they will always lack the private school je ne sais quoi.

It's called "I don't know what" because nobody's exactly sure what IT is or if it's possible to have more or less of IT. But mainly IT comes down to good luck in life, confidence, and money. Luck is influenceable but random, confidence can be learned and is free. Having money is a fact.

So basically je sais what the quoi is. It's being rich. Private school = rich.

So, the post above kinda sums it up. Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they'll never be rich.

If a public school kid and a private school kid both end up at UVA...

The private school kid is going to get invited into a certain sorority or fraternity. They're going to be in different selective clubs. They're going to seek different internships. They're going to have different friends and dating pool. Why? Is all of this just totally random? No. It's their it factor opening doors. They're a member of the club, plus the certain soft skills, emotional IQ, confidence, swagger... the "aura" and "rizz" as kids say. Whatever "it" is, private kids have it. Even the dorky less social private kids have it.

So go ahead and celebrate that your kid clawed his or her way into the same college while you "saved" money sending them to a government K-12, but the fact is your kid is not on the same rung. And they never will be.

NP. I was a public school kid from NoVa at UVA. My best friend, boyfriend, and the man who I would eventually marry were all private school kids, two of the three with hefty trust funds. I was a better student than all of them, I might add.

Watch it, you might end up with a DIL or SIL who went to public school someday!

PP. Above post makes me laugh because I come from an Ivy, Greek, and prep school family background but didn't choose that for myself. And my kids aren't choosing it either, though they could. And the richest trust fund kid I knew OD'd in his early 20s. And the others (some DMV private educated) are far less professionally successful than my family. You have to want that clubby rich lifestyle to feel hurt about not having it. And some people are actively harmed by it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it only OP is allowed to state where her DD got in but the other parent is not?

Because OP paid for private school. She's better than public school parents and is annoyed that those lowly public school kids might have achievements similar to her kid.

Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they will always lack the private school je ne sais quoi.

It's called "I don't know what" because nobody's exactly sure what IT is or if it's possible to have more or less of IT. But mainly IT comes down to good luck in life, confidence, and money. Luck is influenceable but random, confidence can be learned and is free. Having money is a fact.

So basically je sais what the quoi is. It's being rich. Private school = rich.

So, the post above kinda sums it up. Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they'll never be rich.

If a public school kid and a private school kid both end up at UVA...

The private school kid is going to get invited into a certain sorority or fraternity. They're going to be in different selective clubs. They're going to seek different internships. They're going to have different friends and dating pool. Why? Is all of this just totally random? No. It's their it factor opening doors. They're a member of the club, plus the certain soft skills, emotional IQ, confidence, swagger... the "aura" and "rizz" as kids say. Whatever "it" is, private kids have it. Even the dorky less social private kids have it.

So go ahead and celebrate that your kid clawed his or her way into the same college while you "saved" money sending them to a government K-12, but the fact is your kid is not on the same rung. And they never will be.

NP. I was a public school kid from NoVa at UVA. My best friend, boyfriend, and the man who I would eventually marry were all private school kids, two of the three with hefty trust funds. I was a better student than all of them, I might add.

Watch it, you might end up with a DIL or SIL who went to public school someday!

Sure, Jan. And that's why you're trolling the private school forum on a Saturday night.

P.S. If what you write is true, you're nothing but a common social climber and gold digger.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it only OP is allowed to state where her DD got in but the other parent is not?

Because OP paid for private school. She's better than public school parents and is annoyed that those lowly public school kids might have achievements similar to her kid.

Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they will always lack the private school je ne sais quoi.

It's called "I don't know what" because nobody's exactly sure what IT is or if it's possible to have more or less of IT. But mainly IT comes down to good luck in life, confidence, and money. Luck is influenceable but random, confidence can be learned and is free. Having money is a fact.

So basically je sais what the quoi is. It's being rich. Private school = rich.

So, the post above kinda sums it up. Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they'll never be rich.

If a public school kid and a private school kid both end up at UVA...

The private school kid is going to get invited into a certain sorority or fraternity. They're going to be in different selective clubs. They're going to seek different internships. They're going to have different friends and dating pool. Why? Is all of this just totally random? No. It's their it factor opening doors. They're a member of the club, plus the certain soft skills, emotional IQ, confidence, swagger... the "aura" and "rizz" as kids say. Whatever "it" is, private kids have it. Even the dorky less social private kids have it.

So go ahead and celebrate that your kid clawed his or her way into the same college while you "saved" money sending them to a government K-12, but the fact is your kid is not on the same rung. And they never will be.

NP. I was a public school kid from NoVa at UVA. My best friend, boyfriend, and the man who I would eventually marry were all private school kids, two of the three with hefty trust funds. I was a better student than all of them, I might add.

Watch it, you might end up with a DIL or SIL who went to public school someday!

Sure, Jan. And that's why you're trolling the private school forum on a Saturday night.

P.S. If what you write is true, you're nothing but a common social climber and gold digger.

Weird that you can’t believe this would be true. Sorry if this is a difficult prospect for some of you to consider. Not trolling this forum, just scrolling through Recent Topics while I wait for some water to boil.

And I certainly wasn’t gold digging with any of these people. I met my best friend because she lived across the hall in my freshman dorm—we became friends organically, has that ever happened for you? She introduced to me to a friend of hers who became my boyfriend. And then my husband I met all on my own. He still likes me all these years later despite my public school taint.

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Anonymous wrote:Any elegant comeback ideas for when a parent highlights their public school child got into the same college(s) as our private school daughter? The passive-aggressive point they are trying to make is that we wasted our money on private school tuition and we should have just stayed in the public system and would have ended up at the same place. So far, I've been using variations of "Good for you/them!"

The fact that you are looking for a comeback to this (and you are projecting something the other person didn’t say) means you are actually a wee bit insecure about this and the inference hit a nerve. It’s super weird when private school parents pretend they don’t hope their investment in tuition produces success and good college admission outcomes.

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Which was it, a truly better education or pay to play to maintain/enhance social status.

If it was a truly better education, you would most likely not be bothered at all.

I don’t agree at all. The person was passive aggressive and insulting and you are basically doing the same thing by implying the OP is an insecure “private school” parent. I think your biases are showing PP. Is that a chip on your shoulder??

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it only OP is allowed to state where her DD got in but the other parent is not?

Because OP paid for private school. She's better than public school parents and is annoyed that those lowly public school kids might have achievements similar to her kid.

Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they will always lack the private school je ne sais quoi.

It's called "I don't know what" because nobody's exactly sure what IT is or if it's possible to have more or less of IT. But mainly IT comes down to good luck in life, confidence, and money. Luck is influenceable but random, confidence can be learned and is free. Having money is a fact.

So basically je sais what the quoi is. It's being rich. Private school = rich.

So, the post above kinda sums it up. Your public school kids may get into the same colleges, but they'll never be rich.

If a public school kid and a private school kid both end up at UVA...

The private school kid is going to get invited into a certain sorority or fraternity. They're going to be in different selective clubs. They're going to seek different internships. They're going to have different friends and dating pool. Why? Is all of this just totally random? No. It's their it factor opening doors. They're a member of the club, plus the certain soft skills, emotional IQ, confidence, swagger... the "aura" and "rizz" as kids say. Whatever "it" is, private kids have it. Even the dorky less social private kids have it.

So go ahead and celebrate that your kid clawed his or her way into the same college while you "saved" money sending them to a government K-12, but the fact is your kid is not on the same rung. And they never will be.

Oh okay, the quiet part out loud! No worries, many of our kids would never want to be in a fraternity or join a selective club.

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Anonymous wrote:Any elegant comeback ideas for when a parent highlights their public school child got into the same college(s) as our private school daughter? The passive-aggressive point they are trying to make is that we wasted our money on private school tuition and we should have just stayed in the public system and would have ended up at the same place. So far, I've been using variations of "Good for you/them!"

The fact that you are looking for a comeback to this (and you are projecting something the other person didn’t say) means you are actually a wee bit insecure about this and the inference hit a nerve. It’s super weird when private school parents pretend they don’t hope their investment in tuition produces success and good college admission outcomes.

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Which was it, a truly better education or pay to play to maintain/enhance social status.

If it was a truly better education, you would most likely not be bothered at all.

I don’t agree at all. The person was passive aggressive and insulting and you are basically doing the same thing by implying the OP is an insecure “private school” parent. I think your biases are showing PP. Is that a chip on your shoulder??

The person stated where their kid got admitted. Same as OP. How is that passive aggressive on one person’s part but not the other’s? Perhaps OP’s biases - and yours - are showing.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you need a "come back"? Do you need a "gotcha" to feel better about your choices?

So the OP should just sit with the insult in the face of rudeness?

It's not really an insult, just an observation. And it's not an incorrect one. Sometimes the truth is uncomfortable.

I may think you’ve gained weight. Observed it, if you will. Are you uncomfortable if I point it out? It’s not wrong. Maybe it will help you?

That's a really bad analogy. OP chose to spend the money to get a certain outcome. Her friend didn't need to spend the money. It's more like if OP had said "I took Ozempic and lost 30 pounds!" and her friend said "I ate sensibly and exercised and lost 30 pounds too!" It's not a slam at OP for using Ozempic...it's just an observation that the friend got there another way. OP clearly feels sensitive about using Ozempic (ie private school) and is reading things into her friend's comment. That's on her.

Do you not see that this sort of response is obnoxious? Have a filter - this is totally a judgement filled statement.

Why? Why can’t the second person share how they lost their weight? You only see it as judgment because you feel sensitive about how you did it. If you were totally secure about Ozempic, your friend’s statement would merely be an interesting fact.

Well - as an outsider who has not taken part in losing weight "by taking Ozempic" or "by changing my eating/exercise habits" - if I overheard this conversation I would think the response saying "I ate sensibly and exercised" was jaw dropping and not necessary - clearly an obnoxious jab.

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Anonymous wrote:Any elegant comeback ideas for when a parent highlights their public school child got into the same college(s) as our private school daughter? The passive-aggressive point they are trying to make is that we wasted our money on private school tuition and we should have just stayed in the public system and would have ended up at the same place. So far, I've been using variations of "Good for you/them!"

The fact that you are looking for a comeback to this (and you are projecting something the other person didn’t say) means you are actually a wee bit insecure about this and the inference hit a nerve. It’s super weird when private school parents pretend they don’t hope their investment in tuition produces success and good college admission outcomes.

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Which was it, a truly better education or pay to play to maintain/enhance social status.

If it was a truly better education, you would most likely not be bothered at all.

I don’t agree at all. The person was passive aggressive and insulting and you are basically doing the same thing by implying the OP is an insecure “private school” parent. I think your biases are showing PP. Is that a chip on your shoulder??

The person stated where their kid got admitted. Same as OP. How is that passive aggressive on one person’s part but not the other’s? Perhaps OP’s biases - and yours - are showing.

+1. OP never states HOW thet were passive aggressive or WHAT they actually said. You are supposed to take her one-sided report of the situation as a given. Which is absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:Any elegant comeback ideas for when a parent highlights their public school child got into the same college(s) as our private school daughter? The passive-aggressive point they are trying to make is that we wasted our money on private school tuition and we should have just stayed in the public system and would have ended up at the same place. So far, I've been using variations of "Good for you/them!"

Their point is valid

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I didn't read the comments. OP, when I encountered similar comments from an acquaintance about various purchases I made that she felt were a waste of money (new car instead of used, private school instead of public, flying to vacation instead of driving) I always just said "Oh well, true, but it's just money. You can't take it with you."

She didn't like this because then the implication is that we have so much money these purchases are inconsequential to us. The truth is we have good reasons for each of these choices, but they are none of her business, and it's so rude and nosy to quiz people about how they spend their money I never felt bad pretending we were too rich for it to make a difference. Let her stew and wonder, I don't care.

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Anonymous wrote:Any elegant comeback ideas for when a parent highlights their public school child got into the same college(s) as our private school daughter? The passive-aggressive point they are trying to make is that we wasted our money on private school tuition and we should have just stayed in the public system and would have ended up at the same place. So far, I've been using variations of "Good for you/them!"

The fact that you are looking for a comeback to this (and you are projecting something the other person didn’t say) means you are actually a wee bit insecure about this and the inference hit a nerve. It’s super weird when private school parents pretend they don’t hope their investment in tuition produces success and good college admission outcomes.

The weird thing is how public school parents don't understand that "better college placement" is not the motivation of every parent who chooses private over public. We have two children that attended (different) Big 3 and live in a very strong public district. One kid is the type to be in all the hardest classes and applying to T20 schools - the other was the type that is very smart but has some executive functioning challenges and took some highest level classes but not across the board. Both had the option to go to public HS and considered it. Both chose to go to their respective Big 3s based on other factors. As parents college placement had zero weight on this choice and it also did not factor in for the the kids. And we have never stated once to anyone that we think our private schools are better than the public option - they are just different paths - we are lucky enough to have the resources to pay private (and for private colleges too).

The weird thing is that if the above was the major reason for private OP would not be here sourcing “ an elegant comeback.” People who are secure in themselves and decisions a) don’t need them or b) when the rare occasion arises that they do, are readily able to respond.

Maybe - but it depends on when the OP started in private schools. Our kids started from K and we used to get so many comments from neighbors, some were shockingly judgmental. It takes getting used to - so if the OP started in HS then they may not have had as long to figure this out as we did. We have always taken the high ground and ignored it - but sometimes we still get people who say the most inappropriate things. People feel so compelled. Neighbors and close friends have backed off over time - probably because we have never taken their bait and maybe because they can see that we have never made a single negative statement about public schools and that we have never once implied private is better than public. But, we will sometimes still get comments from co-workers or parents on sports teams. And, I will admit that even among those that backed off over the years - some came back at college admissions time to say things. (but then again - lots of people have too much to say at college admissions time - it's like a bug to the light).

Over time - I have also learned to discuss my kids in conversations without talking too much about school - and I purposely avoid framing conversations in a way that indicates they are going to private (or even where they are in college). If someone asks, of course I answer.

Bottom line - even those of us who are reasonable and have thick skin and did not choose private for college admissions and never thought "private school is better than public" (just that we decided we liked what our private schools had to offer for our specific kids) - even with all this - we still run into people saying things similar to what OP is stating and we had to learn over time the best ways to respond and to change direction of such conversations.

OP said the other parent stated where their child was admitted. How is that inappropriate?

No - (over multiple posts) the OP said the other parent said something akin to "my public school kid got into the same schools your private school kid got into" - I wasn't there and obviously context is important. But I'm saying that in our experience - public parents making this sort of statement (saying their kid is public and your kid is private) are the same ones who seem to repeatedly make snide comments and have some weird grudge or chip on their shoulder about the other family choosing private. Like I said - I ignore this (and by now I think it's funny....because over multiple kids in private from k-12 - I have also seen some of these same public families later end up turning to private for one of their kids....THEN they get it...that many of us are just finding a match for our kid and we never drew some imaginary line saying public isn't "good enough for us".)_

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read the comments. OP, when I encountered similar comments from an acquaintance about various purchases I made that she felt were a waste of money (new car instead of used, private school instead of public, flying to vacation instead of driving) I always just said "Oh well, true, but it's just money. You can't take it with you."

She didn't like this because then the implication is that we have so much money these purchases are inconsequential to us. The truth is we have good reasons for each of these choices, but they are none of her business, and it's so rude and nosy to quiz people about how they spend their money I never felt bad pretending we were too rich for it to make a difference. Let her stew and wonder, I don't care.

LOL - that's a nice angle.

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Anonymous wrote:Any elegant comeback ideas for when a parent highlights their public school child got into the same college(s) as our private school daughter? The passive-aggressive point they are trying to make is that we wasted our money on private school tuition and we should have just stayed in the public system and would have ended up at the same place. So far, I've been using variations of "Good for you/them!"

The fact that you are looking for a comeback to this (and you are projecting something the other person didn’t say) means you are actually a wee bit insecure about this and the inference hit a nerve. It’s super weird when private school parents pretend they don’t hope their investment in tuition produces success and good college admission outcomes.

The weird thing is how public school parents don't understand that "better college placement" is not the motivation of every parent who chooses private over public. We have two children that attended (different) Big 3 and live in a very strong public district. One kid is the type to be in all the hardest classes and applying to T20 schools - the other was the type that is very smart but has some executive functioning challenges and took some highest level classes but not across the board. Both had the option to go to public HS and considered it. Both chose to go to their respective Big 3s based on other factors. As parents college placement had zero weight on this choice and it also did not factor in for the the kids. And we have never stated once to anyone that we think our private schools are better than the public option - they are just different paths - we are lucky enough to have the resources to pay private (and for private colleges too).

The weird thing is that if the above was the major reason for private OP would not be here sourcing “ an elegant comeback.” People who are secure in themselves and decisions a) don’t need them or b) when the rare occasion arises that they do, are readily able to respond.

Maybe - but it depends on when the OP started in private schools. Our kids started from K and we used to get so many comments from neighbors, some were shockingly judgmental. It takes getting used to - so if the OP started in HS then they may not have had as long to figure this out as we did. We have always taken the high ground and ignored it - but sometimes we still get people who say the most inappropriate things. People feel so compelled. Neighbors and close friends have backed off over time - probably because we have never taken their bait and maybe because they can see that we have never made a single negative statement about public schools and that we have never once implied private is better than public. But, we will sometimes still get comments from co-workers or parents on sports teams. And, I will admit that even among those that backed off over the years - some came back at college admissions time to say things. (but then again - lots of people have too much to say at college admissions time - it's like a bug to the light).

Over time - I have also learned to discuss my kids in conversations without talking too much about school - and I purposely avoid framing conversations in a way that indicates they are going to private (or even where they are in college). If someone asks, of course I answer.

Bottom line - even those of us who are reasonable and have thick skin and did not choose private for college admissions and never thought "private school is better than public" (just that we decided we liked what our private schools had to offer for our specific kids) - even with all this - we still run into people saying things similar to what OP is stating and we had to learn over time the best ways to respond and to change direction of such conversations.

OP said the other parent stated where their child was admitted. How is that inappropriate?

No - (over multiple posts) the OP said the other parent said something akin to "my public school kid got into the same schools your private school kid got into" - I wasn't there and obviously context is important. But I'm saying that in our experience - public parents making this sort of statement (saying their kid is public and your kid is private) are the same ones who seem to repeatedly make snide comments and have some weird grudge or chip on their shoulder about the other family choosing private. Like I said - I ignore this (and by now I think it's funny....because over multiple kids in private from k-12 - I have also seen some of these same public families later end up turning to private for one of their kids....THEN they get it...that many of us are just finding a match for our kid and we never drew some imaginary line saying public isn't "good enough for us".)_

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