Al Smith Dinner

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:spot on

2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!

The election tradition white tie dinner… which was carried live across cable, YouTube, twitter, etc. and creates hundreds of millions of impressions via viral clipped content and Friday news articles?

And she did a video that is making the viral rounds. Meanwhile, thousands in Green Bay had the opportunity to see her speak in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. What’s interesting is that the bigoted anti-Catholic poster who is rapid-fire posting here is almost certainly someone who defends the treatment of women in places like Saudi Arabia. Interesting to see the hypocrisy.

I’m an atheist Harris voter, but even I can see that the ones who are terrible in this thread are not the Trump voters.

You sound like my conservative friend who made fun of women for using hormonal contraception because in his head they the "same women" who only buy organic food at Whole Foods. Like you really think people who disagree with you are this monolith of your stereotypes about liberals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.

I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.

G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?

Some rightwing Catholic clergy in the U.S. have been actively telling parishioners to not follow the teachings of the Pope. Big no-no. These folks went from assailing "immoral" Bill Clinton and "cafeteria Catholics" to embracing Trump and attacking the Pope. It's nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. What’s interesting is that the bigoted anti-Catholic poster who is rapid-fire posting here is almost certainly someone who defends the treatment of women in places like Saudi Arabia. Interesting to see the hypocrisy.

I’m an atheist Harris voter, but even I can see that the ones who are terrible in this thread are not the Trump voters.

You sound like my conservative friend who made fun of women for using hormonal contraception because in his head they the "same women" who only buy organic food at Whole Foods. Like you really think people who disagree with you are this monolith of your stereotypes about liberals.

I see I was exactly correct. Thanks for confirming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:spot on

2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!

The election tradition white tie dinner… which was carried live across cable, YouTube, twitter, etc. and creates hundreds of millions of impressions via viral clipped content and Friday news articles?

No one cares about the Al Smith dinner

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. What’s interesting is that the bigoted anti-Catholic poster who is rapid-fire posting here is almost certainly someone who defends the treatment of women in places like Saudi Arabia. Interesting to see the hypocrisy.

I’m an atheist Harris voter, but even I can see that the ones who are terrible in this thread are not the Trump voters.

You sound like my conservative friend who made fun of women for using hormonal contraception because in his head they the "same women" who only buy organic food at Whole Foods. Like you really think people who disagree with you are this monolith of your stereotypes about liberals.

I see I was exactly correct. Thanks for confirming.

Confirming that I think you're ridiculous? You're welcome.

[Anonymous]

Trump in his two appearances has pushed the boundary as far as helping his campaign.

Nevertheless this doesn't affect the campaign and I'm surprised to see it get so much attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:spot on

2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!

The election tradition white tie dinner… which was carried live across cable, YouTube, twitter, etc. and creates hundreds of millions of impressions via viral clipped content and Friday news articles?

No one cares about the Al Smith dinner

Trump gets great ratings. He’s actually not lying when he reminds people about all the time. It can be easily fact checked too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was quite funny. Didn’t watch the whole things, but it’s a shame Kamala didn’t show up. This would have been much better for her to attend than the terrible Fox interview

Nah. They wanted her there so Trump could try to humiliate her and then they would get the reaction shot - Harris embarrassed, a crowd of rich white dudes laughing at her. Then put that into commercials to beam all over the country.

Harris didn’t walk into the obvious trap. Smart lady.

Ps - the Al Harris Dinner is the definition of the Swamp that folks claim to hate. Money, religion, media, and politics all rolled into one.

It just makes her look like an outsider, which I guess she is. Anyone of any consequence with ties to NY was there- off the top of my head, Schumer, Hochul, Bloomberg, Kennedy's, Adams, DeBlasio... Heck Leticia James gave Trump a standing ovation. All of these are Dems or former Dems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:spot on

2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!

Harris is mentally and physically fit enough to campaign vigorously until election day and mentally and physically fit enough to be POTUS until 2029. This is why she will rightfully win the 2024 election and why Trump and Biden will be sharing ice cream together at the nursing home next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.

I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.

G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?

Some rightwing Catholic clergy in the U.S. have been actively telling parishioners to not follow the teachings of the Pope. Big no-no. These folks went from assailing "immoral" Bill Clinton and "cafeteria Catholics" to embracing Trump and attacking the Pope. It's nuts.

This might be news to you, but the Pope actually rarely speaks infallibly, and most of what he says is open to criticism. The Pope cannot do whatever he wants. The church is actually not as much of a dictatorship as you were led to believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was quite funny. Didn’t watch the whole things, but it’s a shame Kamala didn’t show up. This would have been much better for her to attend than the terrible Fox interview

Nah. They wanted her there so Trump could try to humiliate her and then they would get the reaction shot - Harris embarrassed, a crowd of rich white dudes laughing at her. Then put that into commercials to beam all over the country.

Harris didn’t walk into the obvious trap. Smart lady.

Ps - the Al Harris Dinner is the definition of the Swamp that folks claim to hate. Money, religion, media, and politics all rolled into one.

It just makes her look like an outsider, which I guess she is. Anyone of any consequence with ties to NY was there- off the top of my head, Schumer, Hochul, Bloomberg, Kennedy's, Adams, DeBlasio... Heck Leticia James gave Trump a standing ovation. All of these are Dems or former Dems.

Yes, an elite white-tie dinner at the Waldorf-Astoria filled with NY pols and their corporate paymasters + media personalities is much more important than trying to whip votes in Wisconsin.

[Anonymous]

I kind of like how he doesn’t give a fk what he says. It used to bother me, but maybe part of me is sort of happy to see push back against the grievance Olympics and perpetual offense culture we live in today. Don’t get me wrong. I’m going to vote Harris, but I can see why a lot of young men like Trump. He isn’t a pssy and just says whatever he wants without care if someone is offended. Everyone is too scared to say anything in public these days. Whether it’s on a college campus or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.

I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.

G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?

Some rightwing Catholic clergy in the U.S. have been actively telling parishioners to not follow the teachings of the Pope. Big no-no. These folks went from assailing "immoral" Bill Clinton and "cafeteria Catholics" to embracing Trump and attacking the Pope. It's nuts.

This might be news to you, but the Pope actually rarely speaks infallibly, and most of what he says is open to criticism. The Pope cannot do whatever he wants. The church is actually not as much of a dictatorship as you were led to believe.

It's also not an authority on morality as I was led.to believe growing up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I kind of like how he doesn’t give a fk what he says. It used to bother me, but maybe part of me is sort of happy to see push back against the grievance Olympics and perpetual offense culture we live in today. Don’t get me wrong. I’m going to vote Harris, but I can see why a lot of young men like Trump. He isn’t a pssy and just says whatever he wants without care if someone is offended. Everyone is too scared to say anything in public these days. Whether it’s on a college campus or whatever.

If this were remotely true there would be a second debate.