I had an epiphany today: I don’t hate trump - I hate his supporters.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I feel sorry for you. What’s it like to be consumed by rage and hate for million people whose political views don’t align with yours? Must be very painful indeed to realize that no matter how loudly you scream about it, you simply cannot make others do what you want them to or think the thoughts you insist they should.

It’s funny because no doubt you’re one of the LWNJs calling Trump voters “fascists.” Yet the reality is that you would like nothing more than to control the thoughts and actions of half the country. You absolutely epitomize fascism.

You don’t know what fascism is and don’t understand that millions of peoples political views don’t align with their own morals. Trump is a cult. People are voting against their own self interests.

Excuse me, crazy person? Shades of 2016 and 2020, when smug, sanctimonious liberals insisted that Trump voters just “didn’t understand” what they were voting for. No, the truth is that you actually think you’re the arbiter of what is right and what is wrong. You’re not. You’re just a pathetically ignorant and controlling individual, and no doubt have been all your life. I’m so sorry for anyone who has to live with you. How miserable.

The Kool- Aid must be so so good.
Millions of people around the world know what’s right and what’s wrong. Leading an insurrection to stop certifying an election is wrong. There is no both-sides-ism for that. It’s wrong. Period. Full stop. End of story. If any MAGA admits that, we would have a little bit more respect for their “opinion”. I hate to break it to you, you’re on the wrong side of history on this one.

+1

They won’t admit it because they don’t do anything in good faith.

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Anonymous wrote:One, how did it take you this long to have such a basic epiphany

Two, I don't hate his supporters. He is vile, but his supporters have very real concerns.

DP... Some real, some not so real but they have been falsely convinced they are real. For example overhyping migrant crime. Undervaluing the economic contribution of immigrants. Vance and others peddling hysteria about how the schools or the government is going to kidnap kids away from parents and put them through gender reassignment surgery. Pretending the average Democrat can somehow be equated with violent anarchocommunists as seen in Portland, or conflating them with right wing Boogaloo Bois arsonists in Minneapolis. Convincing people that the tiny percentage of far left Democrats somehow represents all Democrats and that we want "open borders" and "communism" and "sharia law." And that's just a sampling. Those are their "concerns" but they aren't as real as they think they are.

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Anonymous wrote:Look on the bright side OP. Trump will be defeated in November.

1. PLEASE don’t count your chickens before they hatch.🐣

2. I think what OP may be worried about, and frankly so am I, is that Trump may drop dead tomorrow, but his followers will simply be waiting for the next charismatic authoritarian to fall in line behind. It’s a legitimate worry.

When people are demoralized and marginalized they will fall for personalities like Trump. Maybe stop going out of your way to demonize these people.

A lot of the Trump supporters I know are neither demoralized nor marginalized. They just don’t care about democracy. They think Trump was great for the economy and hate LGBT people and don’t care about anything else.

In other words, morons.

DP. This has long been a talking point of the left, but I have yet to see any evidence of such. Please provide a citation that “Republicans / Trump hate LGBT people.” Because I’m a Republican and certainly don’t hate the LGBT community, nor do I know anyone who does. Plenty of us have beloved friends and family members who are gay/trans. So where, exactly, is your proof that Trump hates this community?

It’s not a talking point- like seriously wtf, I’m talking about people I actually know and go to church with.

Across the board being anti-LGBT is their #1 issue. They don’t want to see LGBT people on tv, don’t want gay marriage to be legal, don’t want sex education in public schools to include LGBT topics or normalize LGBT. And they all love Trump.

Doesn’t sound like anyone I know - not even remotely. The only objections people I know have is not wanting gender instruction (of any gender) in elementary school. Sex Ed - sure. But of course, that’s something Democrats want to roll gender discussion into.

You know teaching pronouns is part of the grammar curriculum 🙃

The pronouns change on a monthly basis.

[Anonymous]

Don Trump is a con man. Period. He has cheated on all his wives, abused women (has been found liable of sexual abuse and multiple rape allegations were made against him), he bragged about getting away with "grab them in the pussy" whenever he wants because he is a celebrity.

He has put 3 Justices on the Supreme Court to overturn roe v. wade and wants to ban abortion and will impact access to women's healthcare and fertility treatment like IVF.

He is a terrible person by all accounts. Used the n-word and b-word in private. He has mocked a reporter for disabilities, called veterans losers, and been mean, and hostile to women reporters.

He lies compulsively. And threatened to act like a dictator if elected again, praised Putin and Kim Jong Un as great leaders.

He has been convicted of 30+ felonies. He whipped up the traitors who stormed the capital into a frenzy, who chanted "hang Pence" about his VP.

Trump is objectively a terrible man who has done disgusting things. Repeatedly. And lies and takes no accountability. I don't hate many humans, but I can say that based on his actions and lack of accountability and cruelty, I do hate Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll preface this by stating the obvious truth: I hate trump, yes, of course. Who doesn’t? But at the end of the day, trump is just an irrelevance. A loudmouth buffoon who will soon be humiliated at the polls again, and then spend what may be the rest of his life in a New York state prison as a 34 count convicted felon facing possibly 14 decades at sentencing, if he doesn’t flee the country first - which I suspect he will. Either way, he’s soon to be gone and won’t be our problem anymore.


But the 50-odd million people who will probably still vote for him this November aren’t going anywhere. And those are the people I really, truly, viscerally despise. Because they gave trump his power. Without these imbeciles, trump would be nothing. He’d literally have the same influence as a crazy screaming homeless man shouting at no one in a city park. That’s what trump would be without the millions of supporters who give him his power. These are the the people I hate. Not trump. trump is just a symptom. His supporters, his sycophants - they are real problem. The disease.

It really made me sad when I came to this realization today, because until now, I assumed that things were going to be awesome after the election and we’d never have to suffer his buffoonery again. But then I realized his supporters aren’t going anywhere. They’re still going to be around regardless of whatever happens to him. And that infuriated me.

I just don’t know how to get past this. I’m just consumed with anger at the realization that probably should’ve occurred to me earlier, but didn’t. I was so consumed with hating trump that I wasn’t able to see who I truly should’ve been hating even more. And now realizing that these people will still be around after he goes away, it just ruins everything.

Very upset tonight. Can barely contain my rage.

His supporters hate America and all that it stands for. They’re also super weird.

Um, it’s progressives who hate America. Everyone knows that. And all the purple-haired weirdos are democrats; not republicans.

Nice try though.

+1
Republicans aren’t out burning American flags and shouting “Death to America!” That would be Democrats.

Never seen a Democrat do that.

I did see lots and lots of Trump voters trying to overthrow the properly elected government and circumvent democracy on Jan. 6. Many of them are in prison now. Some of them truly should have been summarily executed for treason.

This is all the evidence we need that all Trump supporters hate America and all that it stands for. It’s not even a debate.

I think they are foolishly referring to the pro-Hamas wackos who do dumb things like vandalize statues of Rochambeau who had nothing to do with Israel or Palestine. Those people call Joe Biden "Genocide Joe" yet idiot RWNJs think they are "pro-Biden." You can't get much stupider than that.

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Anonymous wrote:Look on the bright side OP. Trump will be defeated in November.

1. PLEASE don’t count your chickens before they hatch.🐣

2. I think what OP may be worried about, and frankly so am I, is that Trump may drop dead tomorrow, but his followers will simply be waiting for the next charismatic authoritarian to fall in line behind. It’s a legitimate worry.

When people are demoralized and marginalized they will fall for personalities like Trump. Maybe stop going out of your way to demonize these people.

A lot of the Trump supporters I know are neither demoralized nor marginalized. They just don’t care about democracy. They think Trump was great for the economy and hate LGBT people and don’t care about anything else.

In other words, morons.

DP. This has long been a talking point of the left, but I have yet to see any evidence of such. Please provide a citation that “Republicans / Trump hate LGBT people.” Because I’m a Republican and certainly don’t hate the LGBT community, nor do I know anyone who does. Plenty of us have beloved friends and family members who are gay/trans. So where, exactly, is your proof that Trump hates this community?

It’s not a talking point- like seriously wtf, I’m talking about people I actually know and go to church with.

Across the board being anti-LGBT is their #1 issue. They don’t want to see LGBT people on tv, don’t want gay marriage to be legal, don’t want sex education in public schools to include LGBT topics or normalize LGBT. And they all love Trump.

Doesn’t sound like anyone I know - not even remotely. The only objections people I know have is not wanting gender instruction (of any gender) in elementary school. Sex Ed - sure. But of course, that’s something Democrats want to roll gender discussion into.

You know teaching pronouns is part of the grammar curriculum 🙃

The pronouns change on a monthly basis.

Dem and Kamala voter here - really? If so, then tell us, what were the pronouns last month and what are they this month?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don Trump is a con man. Period. He has cheated on all his wives, abused women (has been found liable of sexual abuse and multiple rape allegations were made against him), he bragged about getting away with "grab them in the pussy" whenever he wants because he is a celebrity.

He has put 3 Justices on the Supreme Court to overturn roe v. wade and wants to ban abortion and will impact access to women's healthcare and fertility treatment like IVF.

He is a terrible person by all accounts. Used the n-word and b-word in private. He has mocked a reporter for disabilities, called veterans losers, and been mean, and hostile to women reporters.

He lies compulsively. And threatened to act like a dictator if elected again, praised Putin and Kim Jong Un as great leaders.

He has been convicted of 30+ felonies. He whipped up the traitors who stormed the capital into a frenzy, who chanted "hang Pence" about his VP.

Trump is objectively a terrible man who has done disgusting things. Repeatedly. And lies and takes no accountability. I don't hate many humans, but I can say that based on his actions and lack of accountability and cruelty, I do hate Trump.

wow. this is spot on. he is truly despicable and lowest of the low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don Trump is a con man. Period. He has cheated on all his wives, abused women (has been found liable of sexual abuse and multiple rape allegations were made against him), he bragged about getting away with "grab them in the pussy" whenever he wants because he is a celebrity.

He has put 3 Justices on the Supreme Court to overturn roe v. wade and wants to ban abortion and will impact access to women's healthcare and fertility treatment like IVF.

He is a terrible person by all accounts. Used the n-word and b-word in private. He has mocked a reporter for disabilities, called veterans losers, and been mean, and hostile to women reporters.

He lies compulsively. And threatened to act like a dictator if elected again, praised Putin and Kim Jong Un as great leaders.

He has been convicted of 30+ felonies. He whipped up the traitors who stormed the capital into a frenzy, who chanted "hang Pence" about his VP.

Trump is objectively a terrible man who has done disgusting things. Repeatedly. And lies and takes no accountability. I don't hate many humans, but I can say that based on his actions and lack of accountability and cruelty, I do hate Trump.

Well said. When you list it all like this, it's so terrifying that people can justify him.

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Anonymous wrote:Don Trump is a con man. Period. He has cheated on all his wives, abused women (has been found liable of sexual abuse and multiple rape allegations were made against him), he bragged about getting away with "grab them in the pussy" whenever he wants because he is a celebrity.

He has put 3 Justices on the Supreme Court to overturn roe v. wade and wants to ban abortion and will impact access to women's healthcare and fertility treatment like IVF.

He is a terrible person by all accounts. Used the n-word and b-word in private. He has mocked a reporter for disabilities, called veterans losers, and been mean, and hostile to women reporters.

He lies compulsively. And threatened to act like a dictator if elected again, praised Putin and Kim Jong Un as great leaders.

He has been convicted of 30+ felonies. He whipped up the traitors who stormed the capital into a frenzy, who chanted "hang Pence" about his VP.

Trump is objectively a terrible man who has done disgusting things. Repeatedly. And lies and takes no accountability. I don't hate many humans, but I can say that based on his actions and lack of accountability and cruelty, I do hate Trump.

wow. this is spot on. he is truly despicable and lowest of the low.

Who’s worse than Trump? The people who know all of that and still decide to give him power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don Trump is a con man. Period. He has cheated on all his wives, abused women (has been found liable of sexual abuse and multiple rape allegations were made against him), he bragged about getting away with "grab them in the pussy" whenever he wants because he is a celebrity.

He has put 3 Justices on the Supreme Court to overturn roe v. wade and wants to ban abortion and will impact access to women's healthcare and fertility treatment like IVF.

He is a terrible person by all accounts. Used the n-word and b-word in private. He has mocked a reporter for disabilities, called veterans losers, and been mean, and hostile to women reporters.

He lies compulsively. And threatened to act like a dictator if elected again, praised Putin and Kim Jong Un as great leaders.

He has been convicted of 30+ felonies. He whipped up the traitors who stormed the capital into a frenzy, who chanted "hang Pence" about his VP.

Trump is objectively a terrible man who has done disgusting things. Repeatedly. And lies and takes no accountability. I don't hate many humans, but I can say that based on his actions and lack of accountability and cruelty, I do hate Trump.

Hate to burst this little echo chamber you have going here, but nearly everything you wrote is fiction.
We know you hate him. Don't vote for him. Nobody is trying to convince you otherwise.
Meanwhile, many of us will cast our vote for Trump. There is just no way I can vote for a Democrat - especially not this ticket that is the most liberal and radical we have ever had.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don Trump is a con man. Period. He has cheated on all his wives, abused women (has been found liable of sexual abuse and multiple rape allegations were made against him), he bragged about getting away with "grab them in the pussy" whenever he wants because he is a celebrity.

He has put 3 Justices on the Supreme Court to overturn roe v. wade and wants to ban abortion and will impact access to women's healthcare and fertility treatment like IVF.

He is a terrible person by all accounts. Used the n-word and b-word in private. He has mocked a reporter for disabilities, called veterans losers, and been mean, and hostile to women reporters.

He lies compulsively. And threatened to act like a dictator if elected again, praised Putin and Kim Jong Un as great leaders.

He has been convicted of 30+ felonies. He whipped up the traitors who stormed the capital into a frenzy, who chanted "hang Pence" about his VP.

Trump is objectively a terrible man who has done disgusting things. Repeatedly. And lies and takes no accountability. I don't hate many humans, but I can say that based on his actions and lack of accountability and cruelty, I do hate Trump.

Hate to burst this little echo chamber you have going here, but nearly everything you wrote is fiction.
We know you hate him. Don't vote for him. Nobody is trying to convince you otherwise.
Meanwhile, many of us will cast our vote for Trump. There is just no way I can vote for a Democrat - especially not this ticket that is the most liberal and radical we have ever had.

Which part of it is fiction? Pp’s entire post is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don Trump is a con man. Period. He has cheated on all his wives, abused women (has been found liable of sexual abuse and multiple rape allegations were made against him), he bragged about getting away with "grab them in the pussy" whenever he wants because he is a celebrity.

He has put 3 Justices on the Supreme Court to overturn roe v. wade and wants to ban abortion and will impact access to women's healthcare and fertility treatment like IVF.

He is a terrible person by all accounts. Used the n-word and b-word in private. He has mocked a reporter for disabilities, called veterans losers, and been mean, and hostile to women reporters.

He lies compulsively. And threatened to act like a dictator if elected again, praised Putin and Kim Jong Un as great leaders.

He has been convicted of 30+ felonies. He whipped up the traitors who stormed the capital into a frenzy, who chanted "hang Pence" about his VP.

Trump is objectively a terrible man who has done disgusting things. Repeatedly. And lies and takes no accountability. I don't hate many humans, but I can say that based on his actions and lack of accountability and cruelty, I do hate Trump.

wow. this is spot on. he is truly despicable and lowest of the low.

Or maybe they took in more information from a variety of sources and picked what was best for them.

Who’s worse than Trump? The people who know all of that and still decide to give him power.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll preface this by stating the obvious truth: I hate trump, yes, of course. Who doesn’t? But at the end of the day, trump is just an irrelevance. A loudmouth buffoon who will soon be humiliated at the polls again, and then spend what may be the rest of his life in a New York state prison as a 34 count convicted felon facing possibly 14 decades at sentencing, if he doesn’t flee the country first - which I suspect he will. Either way, he’s soon to be gone and won’t be our problem anymore.


But the 50-odd million people who will probably still vote for him this November aren’t going anywhere. And those are the people I really, truly, viscerally despise. Because they gave trump his power. Without these imbeciles, trump would be nothing. He’d literally have the same influence as a crazy screaming homeless man shouting at no one in a city park. That’s what trump would be without the millions of supporters who give him his power. These are the the people I hate. Not trump. trump is just a symptom. His supporters, his sycophants - they are real problem. The disease.

It really made me sad when I came to this realization today, because until now, I assumed that things were going to be awesome after the election and we’d never have to suffer his buffoonery again. But then I realized his supporters aren’t going anywhere. They’re still going to be around regardless of whatever happens to him. And that infuriated me.

I just don’t know how to get past this. I’m just consumed with anger at the realization that probably should’ve occurred to me earlier, but didn’t. I was so consumed with hating trump that I wasn’t able to see who I truly should’ve been hating even more. And now realizing that these people will still be around after he goes away, it just ruins everything.

Very upset tonight. Can barely contain my rage.

His supporters hate America and all that it stands for. They’re also super weird.

Um, it’s progressives who hate America. Everyone knows that. And all the purple-haired weirdos are democrats; not republicans.

Nice try though.

+1
Republicans aren’t out burning American flags and shouting “Death to America!” That would be Democrats.

Nah. They are just carrying a confederate flag through the Capitol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don Trump is a con man. Period. He has cheated on all his wives, abused women (has been found liable of sexual abuse and multiple rape allegations were made against him), he bragged about getting away with "grab them in the pussy" whenever he wants because he is a celebrity.

He has put 3 Justices on the Supreme Court to overturn roe v. wade and wants to ban abortion and will impact access to women's healthcare and fertility treatment like IVF.

He is a terrible person by all accounts. Used the n-word and b-word in private. He has mocked a reporter for disabilities, called veterans losers, and been mean, and hostile to women reporters.

He lies compulsively. And threatened to act like a dictator if elected again, praised Putin and Kim Jong Un as great leaders.

He has been convicted of 30+ felonies. He whipped up the traitors who stormed the capital into a frenzy, who chanted "hang Pence" about his VP.

Trump is objectively a terrible man who has done disgusting things. Repeatedly. And lies and takes no accountability. I don't hate many humans, but I can say that based on his actions and lack of accountability and cruelty, I do hate Trump.

Hate to burst this little echo chamber you have going here, but nearly everything you wrote is fiction.
We know you hate him. Don't vote for him. Nobody is trying to convince you otherwise.
Meanwhile, many of us will cast our vote for Trump. There is just no way I can vote for a Democrat - especially not this ticket that is the most liberal and radical we have ever had.

Which part of it is fiction? Pp’s entire post is true.

+1 None of that is fiction. Republicans are such strange people.

[Anonymous]

https://www.reddit.com/r/KamalaHarris/comments/1eq5exn/my_dads_kamala_harris/

If one wants to see Republicans being heinous people to a pair of Democratic men, read the link. It is possible that the accounts posted by the OP of this reddit thread are bots or troll accounts, but it seems more likely that Republicans are just trying to bully a pair of gay men for supporting Harris.

Yeah we should focus on the utter weirdness of the Republican Party, but the followers are some unpleasant ducks, too.