What’s up with all the sketchy moped drivers?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean I get it. I know why. But it’s not great to have a ton of dudes wearing bike helmets driving $500 dollar Temu mopeds weaving in and out of traffic like we’re in fking São Paulo. These drivers pay no respect to traffic laws and many have no actual license. It’s just been a weird trend in the last few years. Glad the city is cracking down.

Ask the Border Czar.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean I get it. I know why. But it’s not great to have a ton of dudes wearing bike helmets driving $500 dollar Temu mopeds weaving in and out of traffic like we’re in fking São Paulo. These drivers pay no respect to traffic laws and many have no actual license. It’s just been a weird trend in the last few years. Glad the city is cracking down.

Stop ordering door dash and the like, and the problem will be solved.

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At least in your second sentence you square the lie and admit that they come nowhere close to following the law better than cars; that’s just something you like to say.

That poster is right. Nobody said you had to like it.

It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

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I work in Gallery Place and have almost been hit by one of these guys on K Street just north of Gallery. The guy ran a red light and turned left into a group of pedestrians. I do occasionally see cops parked at 5th and K, but when they are not there the moped drivers do whatever they want. I am not against making a living but am against driving into a group of pedestrians or driving on the sidewalk.

The difference is that a car would kill all of them; a moped, much less likely. I watch traffic carefully and have not see the moped drivers (the Latino delivery drivers) ignore traffic lights but did almost get creamed by a driver turning on a red arrow yesterday.

Well I have seen it many, many times all over downtown. They’re a menace to pedestrians.

Also, as someone who has had to go to ER after hitting my head in an accidental fall on the street in DC, I cannot even imagine how much it hurts to get hit by a moped, even one going 10-15 mph. It is absolutely not a minor thing to drive a moped toward pedestrians who are in a crosswalk.

If you think getting hit by a moped will really hurt you, you should try getting hit by a two ton SUV.

I was knocked down by a bike rider while stepping into a crosswalk with the “walk” light on. Vehicle traffic had already stopped for the light. I stepped into the crosswalk and she hit me from the left at full speed. Knocked me off my feet into the air. I landed on the ground and fractured my coccyx and bruised my hip so badly I had to go on blood thinners for 4 months. The bike rider - a white woman in her 30’s - she cussed at me and then got back on her bike and fled away. This is how white people on bikes do.

And you’d be dead if it was an SUV, so …

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I mean I get it. I know why. But it’s not great to have a ton of dudes wearing bike helmets driving $500 dollar Temu mopeds weaving in and out of traffic like we’re in fking São Paulo. These drivers pay no respect to traffic laws and many have no actual license. It’s just been a weird trend in the last few years. Glad the city is cracking down.

Ask the Border Czar.

I mean that’s a simplistic (although valid) attack that will go over most peoples’ heads.

It’s probably not super far off from the truth. People in NYC are also mad and the gov is apparently cracking down there too because the massive amount of migrants using mopeds.

Crazy it only gets noticed when you have to deal with the issue up-close and personal… try living in an area where a MASSIVE chunk of the population is undocumented and then get screwed over when they total your car while driving without insurance. Can’t get blood from a stone so you are SOL. Living outside the DC area somewhere with a large migrant population I know many people who experience this.

Just saw a bad wreck on the local news yesterday where the at-fault driver left his car and walked away from EMS because according the grapevine he was undocumented and uninsured…

Welcome to the new normal I guess, not just cordoned off in certain areas like it had been…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because the social compact is broken in DC.

Correct.

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At least in your second sentence you square the lie and admit that they come nowhere close to following the law better than cars; that’s just something you like to say.

That poster is right. Nobody said you had to like it.

It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

+1

I work in Gallery Place and have almost been hit by one of these guys on K Street just north of Gallery. The guy ran a red light and turned left into a group of pedestrians. I do occasionally see cops parked at 5th and K, but when they are not there the moped drivers do whatever they want. I am not against making a living but am against driving into a group of pedestrians or driving on the sidewalk.

The difference is that a car would kill all of them; a moped, much less likely. I watch traffic carefully and have not see the moped drivers (the Latino delivery drivers) ignore traffic lights but did almost get creamed by a driver turning on a red arrow yesterday.

Well I have seen it many, many times all over downtown. They’re a menace to pedestrians.

Also, as someone who has had to go to ER after hitting my head in an accidental fall on the street in DC, I cannot even imagine how much it hurts to get hit by a moped, even one going 10-15 mph. It is absolutely not a minor thing to drive a moped toward pedestrians who are in a crosswalk.

If you think getting hit by a moped will really hurt you, you should try getting hit by a two ton SUV.

I was knocked down by a bike rider while stepping into a crosswalk with the “walk” light on. Vehicle traffic had already stopped for the light. I stepped into the crosswalk and she hit me from the left at full speed. Knocked me off my feet into the air. I landed on the ground and fractured my coccyx and bruised my hip so badly I had to go on blood thinners for 4 months. The bike rider - a white woman in her 30’s - she cussed at me and then got back on her bike and fled away. This is how white people on bikes do.

Yep. The Venn Diagram of “People Who Bike”, “Self-Centered, entitled pricks”, and “People who put up liberal yard signs” is just a circle.

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It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

The point is that the moped drivers don't have the ability to obliterate an entire family as does the operator of a four ton murder machine. But continue telling yourself that they do.

Murder machines! This silly rhetoric really misleads people about what is actually happening. Lets look at some official government stats, shall we?

In 2022, there were:

-a grand total of 17 people in Washington DC who were killed by car drivers

-nearly as many deaths, 15, were blamed on bicyclist/pedestrian/scooter errors

-there were 203 homicides

With all these crazy moped drivers, only a matter of time before traffic deaths blamed on people who aren't in cars will exceed those blamed on motorists.

What part of physics do you not understand? In an accident the car is inherently at fault for increased severity of injury due to size/speed. If mopeds replaced cars, there would be many fewer injuries and deaths.

Every accident is different, and it's up to the police to investigate the specific circumstances in each one, and determine who is at fault.

Their most recent data shows more than 40 percent of fatal traffic accidents in Washington DC are the fault of pedestrians and cyclists and scooters.

If you have a problem with that, then maybe you should take it up with them.

But since you obviously don't know the first thing about what happened in any of these incidents, maybe just shut the *uck up?

What, the scooters are riding into open manholes and dying? Bicyclists are riding into buildings and dying? There is some mysterious force that executes pedestrians when they stray beyond some white paint? So what is happening to them?

I was driving and someone on a moped tried to pass me on the left while I was making a left hand turn. I would have run into him over if I hadn't slammed on the breaks. But, yeah, you're right, as a driver, I should anticipated that the moped would have made the insanest, most illogical possible decision.

Let's just keep in mind that DC is a place where people make left turns from right turn lanes, pass people in parking/turn lanes, drive on the shoulder of the highway (at least until they put in bollards on some stretches), and think that 10 over the speed limit isn't "speeding." Scooters are hardly ruining a driving utopia. They are just a different flavor of crazy.

People love to make excuses for those maniacs.

The mopeds or the Marylanders?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I mean I get it. I know why. But it’s not great to have a ton of dudes wearing bike helmets driving $500 dollar Temu mopeds weaving in and out of traffic like we’re in fking São Paulo. These drivers pay no respect to traffic laws and many have no actual license. It’s just been a weird trend in the last few years. Glad the city is cracking down.

Ask the Border Czar.

You mean:

“Kama, Kama, Kama, Kama, Kama-chameleon

A (wo) ma without conviction
A (wo)man who doesn't know
How to sell (to sell) a contradiction
You come and go, you come and go”

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At least in your second sentence you square the lie and admit that they come nowhere close to following the law better than cars; that’s just something you like to say.

That poster is right. Nobody said you had to like it.

It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

+1

I work in Gallery Place and have almost been hit by one of these guys on K Street just north of Gallery. The guy ran a red light and turned left into a group of pedestrians. I do occasionally see cops parked at 5th and K, but when they are not there the moped drivers do whatever they want. I am not against making a living but am against driving into a group of pedestrians or driving on the sidewalk.

The difference is that a car would kill all of them; a moped, much less likely. I watch traffic carefully and have not see the moped drivers (the Latino delivery drivers) ignore traffic lights but did almost get creamed by a driver turning on a red arrow yesterday.

Well I have seen it many, many times all over downtown. They’re a menace to pedestrians.

Also, as someone who has had to go to ER after hitting my head in an accidental fall on the street in DC, I cannot even imagine how much it hurts to get hit by a moped, even one going 10-15 mph. It is absolutely not a minor thing to drive a moped toward pedestrians who are in a crosswalk.

If you think getting hit by a moped will really hurt you, you should try getting hit by a two ton SUV.

I was knocked down by a bike rider while stepping into a crosswalk with the “walk” light on. Vehicle traffic had already stopped for the light. I stepped into the crosswalk and she hit me from the left at full speed. Knocked me off my feet into the air. I landed on the ground and fractured my coccyx and bruised my hip so badly I had to go on blood thinners for 4 months. The bike rider - a white woman in her 30’s - she cussed at me and then got back on her bike and fled away. This is how white people on bikes do.

Yep. The Venn Diagram of “People Who Bike”, “Self-Centered, entitled pricks”, and “People who put up liberal yard signs” is just a circle.

Put the mopeds in the bikes lanes. We could put all the worst people on the road in their own separate lane.

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At least in your second sentence you square the lie and admit that they come nowhere close to following the law better than cars; that’s just something you like to say.

That poster is right. Nobody said you had to like it.

It's laughable to anyone who bikes or walks in the city that they drive safely. I guess you get off on knowing they annoy people, which is fine. A few will turn themselves to pancakes annually and hopefully they don't hurt too many pedestrians along the way.

+1

I work in Gallery Place and have almost been hit by one of these guys on K Street just north of Gallery. The guy ran a red light and turned left into a group of pedestrians. I do occasionally see cops parked at 5th and K, but when they are not there the moped drivers do whatever they want. I am not against making a living but am against driving into a group of pedestrians or driving on the sidewalk.

The difference is that a car would kill all of them; a moped, much less likely. I watch traffic carefully and have not see the moped drivers (the Latino delivery drivers) ignore traffic lights but did almost get creamed by a driver turning on a red arrow yesterday.

Well I have seen it many, many times all over downtown. They’re a menace to pedestrians.

Also, as someone who has had to go to ER after hitting my head in an accidental fall on the street in DC, I cannot even imagine how much it hurts to get hit by a moped, even one going 10-15 mph. It is absolutely not a minor thing to drive a moped toward pedestrians who are in a crosswalk.

If you think getting hit by a moped will really hurt you, you should try getting hit by a two ton SUV.

I was knocked down by a bike rider while stepping into a crosswalk with the “walk” light on. Vehicle traffic had already stopped for the light. I stepped into the crosswalk and she hit me from the left at full speed. Knocked me off my feet into the air. I landed on the ground and fractured my coccyx and bruised my hip so badly I had to go on blood thinners for 4 months. The bike rider - a white woman in her 30’s - she cussed at me and then got back on her bike and fled away. This is how white people on bikes do.

Yep. The Venn Diagram of “People Who Bike”, “Self-Centered, entitled pricks”, and “People who put up liberal yard signs” is just a circle.

Put the mopeds in the bikes lanes. We could put all the worst people on the road in their own separate lane.

Mopeds in the bike lanes are preferable to any number of parked cars and trucks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PEDESTRIANS: Mayor Bowser, save us from the dangerous out of control drivers in DC who drive 20+ over the speed limit, blowing red lights by five seconds, blasting horns at pedestrians in crosswalks, parking in the middle of crosswalks and no parking zones, please help us!

MAYOR BOWSER: No.

DRIVERS: Mayor Bowser, save us from these poor black and brown people who are driving mopeds around the city as they try to survive in this incredibly expensive city! I am tired of having to take responsibility for the safe operation of my four ton murder machine and be careful and considerate about other people on DC streets. Save us now!

MAYOR BOWSER: At your service! Don't wait a minute longer. I'm on top of it!

You the award for dumbest comment of the day. Also, as a factual matter, most drivers in DC are black and brown.

Not any longer. DC is a majority White city

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Anonymous wrote:PEDESTRIANS: Mayor Bowser, save us from the dangerous out of control drivers in DC who drive 20+ over the speed limit, blowing red lights by five seconds, blasting horns at pedestrians in crosswalks, parking in the middle of crosswalks and no parking zones, please help us!

MAYOR BOWSER: No.

DRIVERS: Mayor Bowser, save us from these poor black and brown people who are driving mopeds around the city as they try to survive in this incredibly expensive city! I am tired of having to take responsibility for the safe operation of my four ton murder machine and be careful and considerate about other people on DC streets. Save us now!

MAYOR BOWSER: At your service! Don't wait a minute longer. I'm on top of it!

You the award for dumbest comment of the day. Also, as a factual matter, most drivers in DC are black and brown.

Not any longer. DC is a majority White city

What? DC is 44 percent black and 39 percent white. Drivers are even blacker (and browner) than that because they tend to have lower incomes so they're less likely to live within biking/walking distance of where they need to go.

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In 2022. Give it a few months.

The rest of your claim is made up. Unless you mean ATV drivers. There you’d be right.