Surprised at Claremont Mckenna

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Anonymous wrote:Which Claremont school is good for pre-med?


Why pay that kind of money for premed? State flagship is the way to go.

For us, it was much cheaper than the state school.
Anyway, to answer PP's question Pomona has the best pre-med outcomes (number 1 Med School is Columbia, number 2 is Harvard) and the school has first semester P/NP grading for the genetics and intro chem course. A lot more help resources than the other Cs, Scripps/Pitzer classes are apparently very rigorous, so they are also good!


Must have been unusual circumstances. For most people that certainly won't be true.
Anonymous
Pomona is generally regarded as the most pre-med oriented of the 5Cs. It probably has the strongest biology department and traditionally places very well.

That said, I wouldn't pick Pomona for this reason alone. I think all of the 5Cs do well for med school placement. For example, Scripps (underrated IMO) sends a fair percentage of each class to med school and has interesting linkage programs with certain med schools like BU and Pitt. I have no doubt that HMC, CMC, and Pitzer have strong med school placement as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which Claremont school is good for pre-med?


Why pay that kind of money for premed? State flagship is the way to go.

For us, it was much cheaper than the state school.
Anyway, to answer PP's question Pomona has the best pre-med outcomes (number 1 Med School is Columbia, number 2 is Harvard) and the school has first semester P/NP grading for the genetics and intro chem course. A lot more help resources than the other Cs, Scripps/Pitzer classes are apparently very rigorous, so they are also good!


Must have been unusual circumstances. For most people that certainly won't be true.

It's not unusual for the majority of American families. Pomona has very strong financial aid, and currently are using their money to boost the amount of middle class students at the college. They attract people in the price-comparison stage, because they tend to be cheaper than other colleges. State colleges aren't even that cheap anymore and are grazing the 30-50k mark, worse for some if housing is an issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which Claremont school is good for pre-med?


Why pay that kind of money for premed? State flagship is the way to go.

For us, it was much cheaper than the state school.
Anyway, to answer PP's question Pomona has the best pre-med outcomes (number 1 Med School is Columbia, number 2 is Harvard) and the school has first semester P/NP grading for the genetics and intro chem course. A lot more help resources than the other Cs, Scripps/Pitzer classes are apparently very rigorous, so they are also good!


Must have been unusual circumstances. For most people that certainly won't be true.

It's not unusual for the majority of American families. Pomona has very strong financial aid, and currently are using their money to boost the amount of middle class students at the college. They attract people in the price-comparison stage, because they tend to be cheaper than other colleges. State colleges aren't even that cheap anymore and are grazing the 30-50k mark, worse for some if housing is an issue.

100% agree, the differences have to do with department cultures.
Pomona faculty are excellent teachers and the courses tend to be smaller than Keck Science classes
Keck science faculty are usually so-so teachers but good resources and pull in a lot more grant money than Pomona faculty (there's also more faculty, majors, and research projects in general over at Keck).
Pomona has virtually no weed out, while Keck does have a bit more due to the size of the student bodies they're taking on (CMC, Scripps, and Pitzer until this year)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which Claremont school is good for pre-med?


Why pay that kind of money for premed? State flagship is the way to go.

For us, it was much cheaper than the state school.
Anyway, to answer PP's question Pomona has the best pre-med outcomes (number 1 Med School is Columbia, number 2 is Harvard) and the school has first semester P/NP grading for the genetics and intro chem course. A lot more help resources than the other Cs, Scripps/Pitzer classes are apparently very rigorous, so they are also good!


Must have been unusual circumstances. For most people that certainly won't be true.

It's not unusual for the majority of American families. Pomona has very strong financial aid, and currently are using their money to boost the amount of middle class students at the college. They attract people in the price-comparison stage, because they tend to be cheaper than other colleges. State colleges aren't even that cheap anymore and are grazing the 30-50k mark, worse for some if housing is an issue.


Pomona TCOA is $89k
Average non need based aid is $5k

If anyone here in the $150-220k donut hole is getting need based aid, I’d love to hear it, but I am skeptical.
Anonymous
Anyone have information on the integrated sciences program? DS is hoping to apply and was very interested in what it might offer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which Claremont school is good for pre-med?


Why pay that kind of money for premed? State flagship is the way to go.

For us, it was much cheaper than the state school.
Anyway, to answer PP's question Pomona has the best pre-med outcomes (number 1 Med School is Columbia, number 2 is Harvard) and the school has first semester P/NP grading for the genetics and intro chem course. A lot more help resources than the other Cs, Scripps/Pitzer classes are apparently very rigorous, so they are also good!


Must have been unusual circumstances. For most people that certainly won't be true.

It's not unusual for the majority of American families. Pomona has very strong financial aid, and currently are using their money to boost the amount of middle class students at the college. They attract people in the price-comparison stage, because they tend to be cheaper than other colleges. State colleges aren't even that cheap anymore and are grazing the 30-50k mark, worse for some if housing is an issue.


Pomona TCOA is $89k
Average non need based aid is $5k

If anyone here in the $150-220k donut hole is getting need based aid, I’d love to hear it, but I am skeptical.


Out of curiousity I ran their quick college cost estimator on an income of 150k and $300k of retirement and college savings and it said I could expect $50-70k in aid. You could run the NPC if you are curious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone have information on the integrated sciences program? DS is hoping to apply and was very interested in what it might offer.

The new building is going to be gorgeous. The program is about getting a marketable science major, so expect to do coding on top of biology, chemistry, and physics. Students say the intro course is very advanced and in high demand (~150 students taking the class each semester). Depending on the science, your child could take any specific upper divs at the keck science buildings or at Pomona/ Harvey Mudd.

Your child will come at the perfect time, because he will be among the first pic of students to join research labs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?


Mediocre? It's ranked no 8 for LACs!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's a great school, probably a T10 LAC, but it's small (1,400), new, and on the West Coast, so it's less known/established. But the quality of students, faculty, and outcomes are extremely good. And the 5C Consortium is unique and a huge advantage.


No, it was founded as a men's college in 1946. It's name was ClaremonT Men's College until 1976, located across the street from it's sister school, Scripps.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which Claremont school is good for pre-med?


Why pay that kind of money for premed? State flagship is the way to go.

For us, it was much cheaper than the state school.
Anyway, to answer PP's question Pomona has the best pre-med outcomes (number 1 Med School is Columbia, number 2 is Harvard) and the school has first semester P/NP grading for the genetics and intro chem course. A lot more help resources than the other Cs, Scripps/Pitzer classes are apparently very rigorous, so they are also good!


Must have been unusual circumstances. For most people that certainly won't be true.

It's not unusual for the majority of American families. Pomona has very strong financial aid, and currently are using their money to boost the amount of middle class students at the college. They attract people in the price-comparison stage, because they tend to be cheaper than other colleges. State colleges aren't even that cheap anymore and are grazing the 30-50k mark, worse for some if housing is an issue.



False. CMC is $91,550 a year. Google it
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which Claremont school is good for pre-med?


Why pay that kind of money for premed? State flagship is the way to go.

For us, it was much cheaper than the state school.
Anyway, to answer PP's question Pomona has the best pre-med outcomes (number 1 Med School is Columbia, number 2 is Harvard) and the school has first semester P/NP grading for the genetics and intro chem course. A lot more help resources than the other Cs, Scripps/Pitzer classes are apparently very rigorous, so they are also good!


Must have been unusual circumstances. For most people that certainly won't be true.

It's not unusual for the majority of American families. Pomona has very strong financial aid, and currently are using their money to boost the amount of middle class students at the college. They attract people in the price-comparison stage, because they tend to be cheaper than other colleges. State colleges aren't even that cheap anymore and are grazing the 30-50k mark, worse for some if housing is an issue.



False. CMC is $91,550 a year. Google it

Yes. Financial aid exists. For most American families, Pomona, which is what that commenter was talking about, is cheaper than a state school, especially a flagship.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Which Claremont school is good for pre-med?


Why pay that kind of money for premed? State flagship is the way to go.

For us, it was much cheaper than the state school.
Anyway, to answer PP's question Pomona has the best pre-med outcomes (number 1 Med School is Columbia, number 2 is Harvard) and the school has first semester P/NP grading for the genetics and intro chem course. A lot more help resources than the other Cs, Scripps/Pitzer classes are apparently very rigorous, so they are also good!


Must have been unusual circumstances. For most people that certainly won't be true.

It's not unusual for the majority of American families. Pomona has very strong financial aid, and currently are using their money to boost the amount of middle class students at the college. They attract people in the price-comparison stage, because they tend to be cheaper than other colleges. State colleges aren't even that cheap anymore and are grazing the 30-50k mark, worse for some if housing is an issue.


Pomona TCOA is $89k
Average non need based aid is $5k

If anyone here in the $150-220k donut hole is getting need based aid, I’d love to hear it, but I am skeptical.


Out of curiousity I ran their quick college cost estimator on an income of 150k and $300k of retirement and college savings and it said I could expect $50-70k in aid. You could run the NPC if you are curious.

^^PP already did the math for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?


Mediocre? It's ranked no 8 for LACs!

On DCUM, everything that isn’t UVA or WM is mediocre. Facts are beyond most people here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like many SLACs, the location sucks.


lol no you are an ignorant idiot



No, they are correct. Claremont is in an awful location. I was just there (also grew up there). Air quality is abysmal Traffic is horrendous. The consortium lies about being able to ski (Big Besr) in the morning and be in the beach in the afternoon. Hah! maybe in the 60s. You need a car to get anywhere. A relative went to Scripos and would never do it again
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