who else is just totally numb now?

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

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At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

That is the biggest crock of $hit I have read today.
Biden has allowed MILLIONS into our country. And, it was his rhetoric and his policies that have caused the surge. He asked for it. And, he got it.

You cannot gaslight the nation with your spin and lies. And, it is not getting better.

You should read the post you’re replying to before regurgitating right wing propaganda.

I read it. I have seen the data. I have heard Biden's rhetoric.
I know the facts.

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that the border crisis we have experienced for THREE AND A HALF years is of Biden's making.
Between issuing EO's overturning everything that WAS working, telling migrants he hoped they would surge the border, instructing border agents NOT to deport migrants, and then flying in migrants from south of our border....... HE HAS CAUSED THE CRISIS.

He could fix it with another EO. But, he won't because then he would have to admit that he could have prevented it all along.
And, bringing in millions is part of his plan.

Exactly. Every single Democrat Presidential candidate raised their hand in support of open borders on stage for the world to see… in horror.

What are you talking about? Biden said he would sign the border bill that Lankford sponsored.

The border bill that Trump killed, lest it start having an effect? That one?

How long has Schumer refused to bring up HR 2 for a vote?

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Anonymous wrote:I went numb when Biden and Trump are the only 2 contenders. That's pretty devastating to have a geezer losing his mind and a criminal as our only choices. Does it really get worse from there?

It’s a depressing choice and Americans voted for them. Using language like “geezer” is not helpful. And Trump isn’t a convicted criminal yet. Hopefully soon.

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Yes, it can be worse.

See Kamala Harris for an example.

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I get it OP. All I can think of is that movie Don't Look Up. People are stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

+1
At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

That is the biggest crock of $hit I have read today.
Biden has allowed MILLIONS into our country. And, it was his rhetoric and his policies that have caused the surge. He asked for it. And, he got it.

You cannot gaslight the nation with your spin and lies. And, it is not getting better.

You should read the post you’re replying to before regurgitating right wing propaganda.

I read it. I have seen the data. I have heard Biden's rhetoric.
I know the facts.

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that the border crisis we have experienced for THREE AND A HALF years is of Biden's making.
Between issuing EO's overturning everything that WAS working, telling migrants he hoped they would surge the border, instructing border agents NOT to deport migrants, and then flying in migrants from south of our border....... HE HAS CAUSED THE CRISIS.

He could fix it with another EO. But, he won't because then he would have to admit that he could have prevented it all along.
And, bringing in millions is part of his plan.

Exactly. Every single Democrat Presidential candidate raised their hand in support of open borders on stage for the world to see… in horror.

What are you talking about? Biden said he would sign the border bill that Lankford sponsored.

The border bill that Trump killed, lest it start having an effect? That one?

How long has Schumer refused to bring up HR 2 for a vote?

The one Schumer is bringing up this week even though Johnson has said it’s dead on arrival?

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of denialism and coping and blame. Amusing to accuse the right of doing terrible things when the Left is just as bad with the endless prosecutions and lies and censorship. Hunter Biden laptop a Russian misinformation according to 50 intelligence experts? LOL.

Trump is going to win. The world is not going to end. Life will go on.

+1
At least the border will be under control, which is my primary issue right now.

What are you expecting him to do? Announce Civid restrictions? Anything he does is subject to SC knocking it down as they did to Biden... I would not get my hopes up.

What will Trump do? Seal the border and stop the invasion. It’s not that hard, just takes a little leadership on a critical issue. What we have today is either indifference toward or outright encouragement of a flood of illegal immigration. I can’t remember voting for it but that it what we got.

Trump killed the republican border bill that would have stopped the invasion. Trump employs illegal immigrants at his properties. If he's elected the only thing that will change is how Fox reports about the border. You realize that, right?

Keep dreaming, pp.

Unfortunately for you - we have 4 years of a Trump presidency to know what you say is all BS.
We know that illegal immigration was tremendously less than what we have with Biden. So, you can wax on all you want about what you *think* will happen, but we have past experience on which to base our knowledge.

If elected, Trump will pass the same border bill, but two years too late. And Fox will crow about it. If Biden is elected, same border bill.

Illegal immigration is up due to our booming economy with low unemployment. Absolutely 💯, we need to curb it. The fact is Biden has been doing it. Here's a Reuters quote:
In 2022, "President Joe Biden, a Democrat, took office in 2021 vowing to reverse Trump's restrictive approach, but kept Title 42 in place and expanded it."

Got that? he expanded it for as long as he could. Expulsions have been at record numbers. Does that sound like open border? No, it's just Fox spinning you into supporting more tax breaks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/title-42-is-ending-us-mexico-border-what-is-it-what-happens-now-2023-05-05/

That is the biggest crock of $hit I have read today.
Biden has allowed MILLIONS into our country. And, it was his rhetoric and his policies that have caused the surge. He asked for it. And, he got it.

You cannot gaslight the nation with your spin and lies. And, it is not getting better.

You should read the post you’re replying to before regurgitating right wing propaganda.

I read it. I have seen the data. I have heard Biden's rhetoric.
I know the facts.

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that the border crisis we have experienced for THREE AND A HALF years is of Biden's making.
Between issuing EO's overturning everything that WAS working, telling migrants he hoped they would surge the border, instructing border agents NOT to deport migrants, and then flying in migrants from south of our border....... HE HAS CAUSED THE CRISIS.

He could fix it with another EO. But, he won't because then he would have to admit that he could have prevented it all along.
And, bringing in millions is part of his plan.

Exactly. Every single Democrat Presidential candidate raised their hand in support of open borders on stage for the world to see… in horror.

What are you talking about? Biden said he would sign the border bill that Lankford sponsored.

The border bill that Trump killed, lest it start having an effect? That one?

How long has Schumer refused to bring up HR 2 for a vote?

The one Schumer is bringing up this week even though Johnson has said it’s dead on arrival?

Lol. You just smacked that Republican in the face with your glove.

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Anonymous wrote:I can feel it setting in.

I started thinking about this yesterday, when I realized there had barely been any reaction to Florida's six week abortion ban going into effect - and I live in Florida. The stupid gd Alito flag thing. The polls showing this race so dismally close that I can't even believe it - while young leftists are trying to make sure Trump wins. THAT GUY.

I feel like the thing that people have been warning about is finally happening to me - I'm starting to tune out. I'm just so numb now.

Are you feeling that way? How are you overcoming it? I feel like now is the time we need to be most fired up - and I am just so tired. It's been 10 years of this now.

It's been far longer than 10 years.

I assume you are young enough to have come of age during the Obama era. I'm afraid the relative calm of that time was the exception, not the rule.

But, you have the right idea; Focus on what you can control.

I wish Obama had been a unifier, but he wasn't. I wish Mitt Romney had won that election. He was/is.

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Anonymous wrote:I can feel it setting in.

I started thinking about this yesterday, when I realized there had barely been any reaction to Florida's six week abortion ban going into effect - and I live in Florida. The stupid gd Alito flag thing. The polls showing this race so dismally close that I can't even believe it - while young leftists are trying to make sure Trump wins. THAT GUY.

I feel like the thing that people have been warning about is finally happening to me - I'm starting to tune out. I'm just so numb now.

Are you feeling that way? How are you overcoming it? I feel like now is the time we need to be most fired up - and I am just so tired. It's been 10 years of this now.

It's been far longer than 10 years.

I assume you are young enough to have come of age during the Obama era. I'm afraid the relative calm of that time was the exception, not the rule.

But, you have the right idea; Focus on what you can control.

I wish Obama had been a unifier, but he wasn't. I wish Mitt Romney had won that election. He was/is.

Both of them make trump look like an incompetent, dangerous amateur.

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Anonymous wrote:I get it OP. All I can think of is that movie Don't Look Up. People are stupid.

Again, this is the authoritarian playbook. Throws so much crap out there that people become disillusioned and numb. Less, do more. There are so many groups to volunteer with. You can write postcards, register, voters, do not, make phone calls, donate five dollars a month to A voter outreach group. There is so, so much to do! We don’t have time to be numb. Get active.

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I've taken this advice and become more active, while staying away from political news on the whole. There is a lot of propaganda, particularly from the right, and there is no need to even pay attention to most of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it can be worse.

See Kamala Harris for an example.

Explain what Harris has ever done that you don't like but the color of her skin?

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Numb, angry, sad, upset, etc.

We are going to be Russia 2.0 in less than a year.

Owned by the dictator don the con, with his band of sycophants.

If that does not scare you to death you are just brain dead.

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Anonymous wrote:I can feel it setting in.

I started thinking about this yesterday, when I realized there had barely been any reaction to Florida's six week abortion ban going into effect - and I live in Florida. The stupid gd Alito flag thing. The polls showing this race so dismally close that I can't even believe it - while young leftists are trying to make sure Trump wins. THAT GUY.

I feel like the thing that people have been warning about is finally happening to me - I'm starting to tune out. I'm just so numb now.

Are you feeling that way? How are you overcoming it? I feel like now is the time we need to be most fired up - and I am just so tired. It's been 10 years of this now.

It's been far longer than 10 years.

I assume you are young enough to have come of age during the Obama era. I'm afraid the relative calm of that time was the exception, not the rule.

But, you have the right idea; Focus on what you can control.

I wish Obama had been a unifier, but he wasn't. I wish Mitt Romney had won that election. He was/is.

Just 12 years ago we had an election with two legitimate candidates. It seems like a hundred years ago. Will we ever return to some sense of politically normalcy?

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I am the OP of this thread, and something in my turned last night - and now I am just furious and fired up.

I can't believe Republicans are putting us through this again.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP of this thread, and something in my turned last night - and now I am just furious and fired up.

I can't believe Republicans are putting us through this again.

I think I said upthread to take a break and come back later and I’m glad you’re fired up!

The GOP will bring about fascism in this country and WWIII. The corporate owned media wants this and is willing to shove us into the mouth of the fire. Let’s not.