How many times have you had Covid?

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Do you hear yourself?

You are basically saying if I am not at risk for dying from it, how big a deal can it really be?

Totally self-absorbed.

NP. That's not how I read this at all. This person is saying that the war analogy is a very bad one. This disease and it's worst outcomes are not at all random. They never were even in March 2020. In May 2023, the worst outcomes even for the weakest among us are largely (not entirely) avoidable even for the elderly and sick if they avail themselves of vaccines and treatments. Re-read the bolded sentence. That is this person's point and I agree 100 percent.

March 2020 are you insane.

Healthy adults died in the parking lots in NY of COVID.

It was not unavoidable if you had to pay bills and go to work.

I agree the vaccine saved lives but the vaccine deniers have killed more people than gun violence.

I'd like a citation for the healthy adults dropping dead of COVID in the parking lots of New York, especially as the emergency field hospitals ended up never being used.

I do agree (fully!) that vaccines saved lives. But that is a different situation entirely. Vaccination or not, COVID killed primarily unhealthy older people. Random healthy younger people who died of COVID are very rare. Today, with both vaccinations and treatments, few people are at risk of suffering badly from COVID and that is why it is not a public topic any more. But it will, and it will always, affect the elderly and very sick, just as the elderly and very sick died of the flu before COVID came along. Even if they are vaccinated.

It’s like you forgot March 2020-July 2020 … with refrigeration trucks full of bodies.

Yes people went to emergency rooms unable to breathe and could not be seen by a dr.

Is this cognitive dissonance or fo you have early onset?

And these people included more than just elderly and vulnerable. Healthy kids were even a part of this.

Sure majority of those in their teens/20s are not going to die immediately from Covid, but they stand a good chance of getting Long Covid. We don't fully understand what this will mean in 3-5-10years, but most medical experts believe it will be an issue and we are already seeing some of it. So sure risk your kid's entire future life for getting covid now--I hope for their sakes they do not end up with Long covid as it is not a good thing.

We can still live life, but it would be nice if we had some precautions in place---better ventilation for schools and all public places, people wearing masks when they go to public places---not that hard to wear a mask for the 30 mins you are in target or the grocery store, not sending your kids to school or going to work yourself if you are sick/still testing positive for covid, etc. We can find a happy medium between 2020 and "let's pretend covid is gone or only a minor cold".

Most? Source?

I can tell who in this thread spends too much time on Twitter.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/large-study-provides-scientists-deeper-insight-into-long-covid-symptoms

Where in that article does it say that most medical experts think young people stand a good chance of getting long Covid? (Hint: it doesn’t)

ALL people stand a good chance of getting long COVID. 10% of adults who had COVID developed long COVID. That's a huge percentage.

And it is very likely that repeated exposure increases your chance, but we just don't have the data on that yet.

Poor Dr Osterholm. He now has long COVID. https://twitter.com/LauraMiers/status/1660886181431607296

It’s 28%

https://usafacts.org/articles/here-are-the-ages-likely-to-get-long-covid/

The Census Bureau’s Household Pulse Survey? At least the NIH article posted earlier is clear about the limitations of the self-reporting of symptoms, and that the 10% still needed to be corroborated by actual lab work.

But I can post links, too. Here’s one that puts the risk as low as 5% or less for vaccinated adults. And declining!

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Oops, forgot the link:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/current-risk-getting-long-covid-rcna73670

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

Oh, sweetheart, sorry to burst your bubble of delusion. However, Covid is still here, still quite serious, and yes, still kills a fair amount of people. Secondly, even mild cases can contribute to blood clots for up to a year. Repeated infections adds to that risk. No, this isn't over, mmkay?

I'll share a story that for most people will hopefully make them feel really positive. I think for some of you like the immediate poster above it will just annoy you in some way but sharing anyway.

My 87 year old father is in a nursing home. They had a recent outbreak of 15 residents and 10 staff. Worst they've had since early pandemic days. They are all fine. No one was even seriously ill. They knew how to handle it and had a plan, residents were treated quickly with paxlovid. The outbreak was contained relatively quickly.

Think of that compared to what was happening in the early days in Seattle area in the nursing homes.

I have a friend in her late 40s that had a mild case, her second, and now has blood clots in her lungs and heart damage. Also several heart attacks among healthy 40 to 60 year olds in the last year, right after Covid. Minimizing this is not really helping.

Same with increase in strokes in previously healthy young adults/20-40year olds

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

This is a very good point. It is sad how unnecessarily warped young people have been.

It would be if it were not full of lies.

What lies? I imagine this is a pointless question as some people are determined to believe COVID is a serious threat to everyone and we're all at risk of death or long covid or whatever and will come armed with their highly selective, often based on skewed data, stats or twitters to prove a point. Meanwhile, in the real world out there - life goes on. Most people have long left COVID behind. That tells you something.

That many people cannot understand science, especially if they want to live life like it's 2019?
That most people can not have empathy for a situation until it directly affects them?

Life could still go on with some modifications that keep everyone much safer, but wont as long as majority want to be an ostrich.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

This is a very good point. It is sad how unnecessarily warped young people have been.

It would be if it were not full of lies.

What lies? I imagine this is a pointless question as some people are determined to believe COVID is a serious threat to everyone and we're all at risk of death or long covid or whatever and will come armed with their highly selective, often based on skewed data, stats or twitters to prove a point. Meanwhile, in the real world out there - life goes on. Most people have long left COVID behind. That tells you something.

That many people cannot understand science, especially if they want to live life like it's 2019?
That most people can not have empathy for a situation until it directly affects them?

Life could still go on with some modifications that keep everyone much safer, but wont as long as majority want to be an ostrich.

I think the biggest lesson learned from Covid is the fact that the majority of people do not have empathy unless it’s a situation that directly affects them. This is essentially why the planet is ultimately doomed- either by climate change or another pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

This is a very good point. It is sad how unnecessarily warped young people have been.

It would be if it were not full of lies.

What lies? I imagine this is a pointless question as some people are determined to believe COVID is a serious threat to everyone and we're all at risk of death or long covid or whatever and will come armed with their highly selective, often based on skewed data, stats or twitters to prove a point. Meanwhile, in the real world out there - life goes on. Most people have long left COVID behind. That tells you something.

That many people cannot understand science, especially if they want to live life like it's 2019?
That most people can not have empathy for a situation until it directly affects them?

Life could still go on with some modifications that keep everyone much safer, but wont as long as majority want to be an ostrich.

DP. What science are we not understanding? In this thread alone, I’m seeing two examples of people posting results of self-reported surveys as if they’re definitive science. I think a lot of people need to read the substance of their sources and stop taking sound bites and alarmist headlines as the absolute truth.

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Neither DH nor I have had it. No longer masking unless we fly. Grateful to not have gotten it. We are in our 60s.

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I cannot believe the number of relatively young people I know, or am hearing about who suddenly have had small clots. They’re having strokes, heart attacks, kidney damage caused by small closet. Some of them died. Most have had treatment and survived but who knows what the long-term effects are going to be. These are young people. No mostly not in their 20s, but 30 to 50-year-olds. Non-smokers, good health, not people you would expect to suddenly have a small stroke or a heart attack. I am in my late 50s and have not experienced this level of hearing about people with clotting issues before. I don’t know that it’s due to Covid, but honestly it would make a lot of sense.

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We take zero precautions and travel all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Lies
And teachers in states that were open died at unprecedented rates.

Live in your web of lies.

This is patently false. Teachers were never at an increased risk of covid when adjusted for age and health status and this was known early in the pandemic.

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Zero times that I know of. I haven't even been sick since 2021. But I'm vaccinated, practice social distancing, and wash my hands. I work and play outdoors so that helps.

I love social distancing and hope that it remains a trend.

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Anonymous wrote:Until I saw this post, I hadn’t thought of COVID all week. Amazing. It’s like it never happened and we’ve all returned to our senses. Remember when people thought we were all going to die any time we left the house? Let’s not do that ever again, mmkay?

You have to be one of the more delusional and/or ignorant posters I have seen in a long time.

More Americans died from COVID than ANY US war. More than one million died of a disease that did not exist five years ago.

And you think we all over-reacted??

This is Memorial day weekend. How many ceremonies will be held, and statues laid with wreaths to honor our war dead. Think of the most devastating war in your mind.

MORE people died of COVID than any of our wars, Let that sink in (those of you who don't even see it in your rearview mirror???)

COVID isn't a warring enemy. In war, bombs don't care who they kill. Old, young, everyone in between. The people who died of COVID were disproportionately elderly and in poor health. Hugely so. The vast majority of COVID deaths were among people with significant comorbidities. Huge, enormous overlap. Given we're now two full years post the peak COVID deaths, a good chunk of the people who died of COVID would have died by now of something else. By contrast, COVID wasn't killing classrooms of kids or people out shopping at supermarkets when a stray bomb fell on it.

I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

Probably the saddest outcome of COVID isn't the elderly and sick who lost a bit of life they otherwise would have lived, but the younger people who had no reason to fear COVID but who have become damaged by COVID fears that they are not able to accurately and pragmatically measure the risks.

Lies
And teachers in states that were open died at unprecedented rates.

Live in your web of lies.

Where is the data on this? How do you know they died of covid at rates higher than other professions in these open states?

The death rates are easily found. Google is your friend. Compare Fla to Maryland. It’s sad his many senseless deaths there were.

Also look at the death rates of grocery store workers and people working in warehouses.. especially for food. The rate of death is double those who could stay safe at home.

Ignorance is bliss apparently.

You can’t easily compare Florida to Maryland because Florida has a much older, much more overweight population. Even looking at age adjusted death rates (available on CDC website), Florida is middle of the pack for the states, not on either end like Oklahoma and Vermont, and that doesn’t account for comorbidities.

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Once in Jan 2022 and our symptoms were just a bad had cold. Started with one kid who likely caught it at school.

We were never overly cautious. Stopped masking as soon at mandates were dropped, went back to dining inside late 2022, have flown numerous time including March 2021 before vaccines, and sent kids back to school as soon as they were allowed.

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I'm 42 in excellent health and no known health problems. The odds of dying from COVID is next to none. Like the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who get COVID, it will be nothing more than a pesky feverish cold for a few days and then back to normal.

It's very hard to say what your odds of dying from COVID are. People mostly aren't immediately dying from COVID, this is true. But if catching COVID increases their risk for blood clots and then they die of a stroke at age 44.. wouldn't it be true that getting COVID caused their death?