Millennials who are mean.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I think you are gaslighting us. You sound emotionally stunted and entitled.

I have a crazy aunt who is a narcissist and intensely demanding and unlikable. She however is convinced that she is a delight, an absolute delight that everyone loves yet no one can stand to be with her. She would quickly tell you how I am a big meanie that got mad at her for simply wanting to make my daughter a birthday cake. How awful, a birthday cake! She will omit that had harassed our family for months after being told no multiple times. My kids do not want to do anything with her. She’s crazy! We tried polite no thank you responses and not inviting her and this only enraged her. We tried grey rock, this enraged her more. She started calling and texting the kids demanding they do something with her. She told them to tell their meanie parents to let her see them. She scared them. She demanded that my daughter spend her birthday with her..not her friends, not us but her. This was it , we blocked her on all devices and went no contact. To ths day, she rages about us cutting her off over a birthday cake.

You may not be that bad but you certainly try to paint a picture that you are a delight when you don’t come off that way so it sounds suspicious.

My advice is to let go of feeling entitled to their children. Be pleasant when you get together, spend quality and not quantity time with them. Stop getting mad that you aren’t invited as frequently as you want.

“Feeling entitled to their children?!?” This is their grandchildren and of course they want a relationship with them.

yes they can WANT one, but they are not ENTITLED to one

FFS unless they are addicts or openly abusive, yes they are entitled. What is wrong with you.

Wrong.

Not wrong. And kids are entitled to the relationship also, as long as grandparents aren’t addicts or abusive. It is abusing the children to deprive them of non abusive grandparents just bc of your own petty narcissism, the kids are too young to protest and these millennial parents have a BIG comeuppance waiting for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My experiences as a daughter and as a mom is that you get what you give. My parents were not great parents and I have a lot of issues with them, but I do try to be polite and respectful towards them if only to model that behavior for my own child and to make our visits more pleasant. I am stingy with visits though, because they can be real pills and stress me out a lot, and I have to give myself breaks between visits or the resentment will build up and I will really struggle to stay polite.

As a parent, I am trying to do better than my parents. I don't hit my kids, for starters. I think that's really awful behavior and I think the fact that my parents hit us has been really terrible for our mental health and for our relationship with them. I know they'd justify it by saying it was more normalized back then, but I know plenty of Boomers who didn't hit their kids. At the end of the day it's a choice.

I also talk to my kids respectfully, am interested in their lives, and apologize to them when I screw up. These are things my parents didn't do when I was a kid. They were very authoritarian and spoke to me with a lot of condescension or frequently sarcasm -- like I was dumb and they were smart and they resented having to explain things to me. They didn't seem interested in my life, my thoughts, my dreams for myself. And they never apologized. Not even when they were clearly in the wrong, like if they lost their temper over something that turned out to be a misunderstanding, even when it became clear they misunderstood, they wouldn't apologize, they'd just scold us for not clarifying things for them sooner.

I think the reason I have a really positive relationship with my kids but not a great one with my parents is a lot of this behavior. It's just hard to have a mutually respectful and warm relationship with people who used to hit you in anger, criticize you all the time, talk down to you, dismiss you, and were never accountable to you for any of their own behavior.

I do still try to be polite though. And I maintain a relationship with them. But I know often they feel I don't welcome them enough, or visit enough, or even that I am not respectful enough of their station in life. I do my best.

Perhaps some of this will be helpful for you, OP.

This describes my parents and their parenting style. It made me feel terrible about myself and very unloved. I am not cruel to my parents, but I also don’t really like them. For years and years they talked down to me and treated me like I was a true second class citizen without any valid opinions or emotions. I was not respected as an individual and was talked down to especially if I wanted to do something or had an opinion that was inconsistent with their belief system. It seems strange to me that they now expect me to have this loving relationship with them and like them as people. You get what you give.

I’m trying to create a loving home for my own kids. I of course have rules but have no intention of parenting like my parents did.

[Anonymous]

My MIL is a very flawed (as am I) and at times irritating person but she gets the basics right — is loving and kind, positive and supportive, fits herself in around my availability, does not impose and is always helpful or at least well-intentioned. She always brings gifts, most that I do not like or use but the thought is kind. I love her and am so lucky. There’s lots of forgiveness on both sides bc the love and good intention are there. She is crazy about my DC and that’s good enough for me. It’s more love in my DC’s life.

[Anonymous]

This is a very strange thread title. OP, you have three children who apparently don't like you. That doesn't make an entire generation mean.

[Anonymous]

Boomers are awful and they raised the worst generation of all time. You only have yourselves to blame.

Signed,

GenX mom with great Gen Z kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boomers are awful and they raised the worst generation of all time. You only have yourselves to blame.

Signed,

GenX mom with great Gen Z kids

I gotta say, there is some truth here. Boomers were completely out for themselves and they raised these fragile hellions.

-Fellow Gen X parent of awesome Gen Z kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My experiences as a daughter and as a mom is that you get what you give. My parents were not great parents and I have a lot of issues with them, but I do try to be polite and respectful towards them if only to model that behavior for my own child and to make our visits more pleasant. I am stingy with visits though, because they can be real pills and stress me out a lot, and I have to give myself breaks between visits or the resentment will build up and I will really struggle to stay polite.

As a parent, I am trying to do better than my parents. I don't hit my kids, for starters. I think that's really awful behavior and I think the fact that my parents hit us has been really terrible for our mental health and for our relationship with them. I know they'd justify it by saying it was more normalized back then, but I know plenty of Boomers who didn't hit their kids. At the end of the day it's a choice.

I also talk to my kids respectfully, am interested in their lives, and apologize to them when I screw up. These are things my parents didn't do when I was a kid. They were very authoritarian and spoke to me with a lot of condescension or frequently sarcasm -- like I was dumb and they were smart and they resented having to explain things to me. They didn't seem interested in my life, my thoughts, my dreams for myself. And they never apologized. Not even when they were clearly in the wrong, like if they lost their temper over something that turned out to be a misunderstanding, even when it became clear they misunderstood, they wouldn't apologize, they'd just scold us for not clarifying things for them sooner.

I think the reason I have a really positive relationship with my kids but not a great one with my parents is a lot of this behavior. It's just hard to have a mutually respectful and warm relationship with people who used to hit you in anger, criticize you all the time, talk down to you, dismiss you, and were never accountable to you for any of their own behavior.

I do still try to be polite though. And I maintain a relationship with them. But I know often they feel I don't welcome them enough, or visit enough, or even that I am not respectful enough of their station in life. I do my best.

Perhaps some of this will be helpful for you, OP.

This right here sums up why I don't have a great relationship with my boomer parents. My dad had major anger issues (my mom to a lesser extent) and it was constant yelling and walking on eggshells. Rarely, I will feel myself going in that direction ... yelling, sarcasm, etc. And then I remember how that felt when I was a kid. I ALWAYS apologize to my daughter and give her perspective. Like "I'm sorry, Mommy was feeling overwhelmed and did not handle her feelings in an appropriate way. I'm so sorry if my behavior made you feel upset. Would you like to talk about it?" If my parents had taken time to do that (and just didn't have angry outbursts SO frequently) I think we'd be in a better place. It continued well into my young adulthood and they wonder why I pulled away.

Also, hanging out with my parents is stressful. They can't just show up to something with my DD. They expect to be catered to. Greeted out front, DD has to behave (perform) a certain way, we have to say thank you for coming X amount of times... or I hear about it later, because nothing is ever good enough for them. They get invited to less and less every time this happens.

I strongly suspect some of this is in play in this situation.

Same for me. We rarely talk to my parents and my kids don't have a relationship with them.

Growing up, my father had a very bad temper and you never knew what would set him off. It was so bad, our neighbors called the cops multiple times because they could hear him yelling and, I can only assume, were concerned for us (we lived in a SFH, so no shared walls). But if I ever brought up his temper, I was told by both of my parents that I was overreacting. That I caused him to react like that. That I was making a big deal out of nothing. On top of this, my parents were very authoritarian and treated me like a 2nd class citizen. I didn't matter. I was there to take orders and otherwise not be seen. Nothing about me mattered.

Although if you ask my parents today about why they don't have a relationship with us, they will blame it on my husband poisoning me away from my family (lol) AND the fact that they bought my kids too many gifts (!!). Totally delusional on both accounts. And OPs posts are giving me the same vibes....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good thing about millennial is that we can talk, speak up against our abusers, speak up against pedophile Priests, pedophile rich people, be free and choose whatever we feel are

I can’t wait until the day your own children call you out for the spoiled entitled narcissistic asses you really are.

I can’t wait until the day your own children call you out for the spoiled entitled narcissistic asses you really are.

Thanks to boomers, we don't have a future for the next generations. People like you are the problem. The day we stop praising greedy rich people and pedophile priests it will be a better world

[Anonymous]

Maybe be nicer people?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good thing about millennial is that we can talk, speak up against our abusers, speak up against pedophile Priests, pedophile rich people, be free and choose whatever we feel are

I can’t wait until the day your own children call you out for the spoiled entitled narcissistic asses you really are.

I can’t wait until the day your own children call you out for the spoiled entitled narcissistic asses you really are.

Thanks to boomers, we don't have a future for the next generations. People like you are the problem. The day we stop praising greedy rich people and pedophile priests it will be a better world

Sounds like you think I’m a boomer. I’m not. Grow up and stop blaming others for all your problems.

[Anonymous]

I'm Hispanic and I love my white mother on law! She's kind and sweet. I tell my husband to take care of her, treat her, she's your mother!

OP, you should ask, How can I make a better relationship with my offspring?

Tells us more story or talk to a therapist all tell them the full truth, about your behavior and others.
Tell your son/daughter:
It makes me feel sad when you don't initiate communication with us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP I think you are gaslighting us. You sound emotionally stunted and entitled.

I have a crazy aunt who is a narcissist and intensely demanding and unlikable. She however is convinced that she is a delight, an absolute delight that everyone loves yet no one can stand to be with her. She would quickly tell you how I am a big meanie that got mad at her for simply wanting to make my daughter a birthday cake. How awful, a birthday cake! She will omit that had harassed our family for months after being told no multiple times. My kids do not want to do anything with her. She’s crazy! We tried polite no thank you responses and not inviting her and this only enraged her. We tried grey rock, this enraged her more. She started calling and texting the kids demanding they do something with her. She told them to tell their meanie parents to let her see them. She scared them. She demanded that my daughter spend her birthday with her..not her friends, not us but her. This was it , we blocked her on all devices and went no contact. To ths day, she rages about us cutting her off over a birthday cake.

You may not be that bad but you certainly try to paint a picture that you are a delight when you don’t come off that way so it sounds suspicious.

My advice is to let go of feeling entitled to their children. Be pleasant when you get together, spend quality and not quantity time with them. Stop getting mad that you aren’t invited as frequently as you want.

NP- Ah, here it is. The millennial brigade assuming the worst in you, OP. I was wondering what was taking so long.

No, please do not assume this. Give these parents a break. Their kids are awful. Who calls their father a moron?

We are all sick of it. And it is very, very sad.

You’re “all sick of it?” Too damn bad.

And if it’s all THREE of OP’s kids, the problem is OP. Simple.

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OP is at 100% on the bad parenting....3 for 3, that's on OP, not the kids.

I'm a millennial and have a good relationship with my parents and siblings. If they were toxic I would cut contact. They're not, so we have a good relationship. No, they are not "entitled" to a relationship with my kids. They have one because they maintain a good relationship with me, and now my children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are the "submit generation." We submitted to our elders, and now we are really submitting to our kids. One false move, something misunderstood or perceived, or really nothing, and we are tossed like old lettuce.

Wow, what a dumb choice to make. I was taught to "submit" to my elders, but then when I became an adult and struck out on my own, I took control of my life. I go along when I want, I compromise when it makes sense to do so, I please others when it suits me, and I set boundaries when I need to. The end. Too bad for you that you choose to be such a weak doormat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My experiences as a daughter and as a mom is that you get what you give. My parents were not great parents and I have a lot of issues with them, but I do try to be polite and respectful towards them if only to model that behavior for my own child and to make our visits more pleasant. I am stingy with visits though, because they can be real pills and stress me out a lot, and I have to give myself breaks between visits or the resentment will build up and I will really struggle to stay polite.

As a parent, I am trying to do better than my parents. I don't hit my kids, for starters. I think that's really awful behavior and I think the fact that my parents hit us has been really terrible for our mental health and for our relationship with them. I know they'd justify it by saying it was more normalized back then, but I know plenty of Boomers who didn't hit their kids. At the end of the day it's a choice.

I also talk to my kids respectfully, am interested in their lives, and apologize to them when I screw up. These are things my parents didn't do when I was a kid. They were very authoritarian and spoke to me with a lot of condescension or frequently sarcasm -- like I was dumb and they were smart and they resented having to explain things to me. They didn't seem interested in my life, my thoughts, my dreams for myself. And they never apologized. Not even when they were clearly in the wrong, like if they lost their temper over something that turned out to be a misunderstanding, even when it became clear they misunderstood, they wouldn't apologize, they'd just scold us for not clarifying things for them sooner.

I think the reason I have a really positive relationship with my kids but not a great one with my parents is a lot of this behavior. It's just hard to have a mutually respectful and warm relationship with people who used to hit you in anger, criticize you all the time, talk down to you, dismiss you, and were never accountable to you for any of their own behavior.

I do still try to be polite though. And I maintain a relationship with them. But I know often they feel I don't welcome them enough, or visit enough, or even that I am not respectful enough of their station in life. I do my best.

Perhaps some of this will be helpful for you, OP.

+1
I could have written this. I would also add that I'm protecting my children from this.

My parents also criticize the way I deal with my children (in front of them). That results in me feeling I've spent too much time with them and making my visits shorter and less frequent.

[Anonymous]

Just about grandparents being entitled to a relationship with their grandchildren:

I don't really have an opinion on that, but it seems like OP's kids would sort of agree. It seems like they don't particularly like their parents but are tolerating them and maybe part of the reason is that they do feel some obligation to maintain family ties.