Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn have broken up

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Anonymous wrote:The obsession with Taylor's fertility is SO creepy.

+1 Look at what she has achieved!!! Look at her concert - a tour de force!! She is an icon, at this point and we are talking about her fertility? When Joe Alwyn was barely known and will likely return to relative obscurity. What a disgrace.

This is why this is so triggering for me. It's like, no matter what she achieves, people will still drag her for not having children.

She’s already rich. Making more money is frankly pointless. It’s about a purpose after that. Creating life. Giving your parents the joy of being grandparents.

I can't believe people still think that if you don't have children, you have no purpose in life.

When you have kids, you’ll get it. Until then it’s a waste of time talking to you about this.

+1 It’s true. Once you actually have kids you realize how selfish you were. And you actually do have a bigger purpose once you have them.

can you go back to the 1950s where you belong?

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Anonymous wrote:The obsession with Taylor's fertility is SO creepy.

+1 Look at what she has achieved!!! Look at her concert - a tour de force!! She is an icon, at this point and we are talking about her fertility? When Joe Alwyn was barely known and will likely return to relative obscurity. What a disgrace.

This is why this is so triggering for me. It's like, no matter what she achieves, people will still drag her for not having children.

She’s already rich. Making more money is frankly pointless. It’s about a purpose after that. Creating life. Giving your parents the joy of being grandparents.

I can't believe people still think that if you don't have children, you have no purpose in life.

When you have kids, you’ll get it. Until then it’s a waste of time talking to you about this.

New poster - this is just gross.

I have 2 kids who I love very much. But there is no way that I think I was selfish before I had them and if I hadn't had them, I would still have had a fulfilled, meaningful life. What is wrong with you people? Different choices are completely valid.

+1 It’s true. Once you actually have kids you realize how selfish you were. And you actually do have a bigger purpose once you have them.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. I think it’s natural to wonder if an unmarried, childless couple breaking up after six years in their mid thirties (she’s turning 34) wants to have kids. Sadly this is NBD for a guy like Joe Alwyn, but more complicated for any mid-thirties woman, regardless of whether she’s Taylor swift or not.

We know nothing about why she doesn’t have children- does she not want them, does he not want them, does one not want them yet, was one unable to commit to their relationship, or did they struggle to conceive? What I’m more certain about is that Taylor is very much aware that there is a “typical” window for a woman to have kids, and for whatever reason (by choice or not) she is living her life fully without kids.

And I think the narrative you’re pushing that the most successful woman in show business can’t figure out how to have a child is sexist, deluded and gross. What people want is for Taylor to WANT to have a baby, and they are very disturbed that she does not conform to “all that 1950s shit.” It’s right there in her songs! She has no interest!

Would it be better if she had multiple kids with a gross cheater like Beyonce? Or with multiple baby daddies at 21 like the Kardashians?

Calm down, lady. All I’m saying is that it’s natural to wonder about it because women have more of a biological clock than men do, and she’s not 20. Certainly not judging her one way or the other nor do I care if she gets married or has kids. Simply observing a very public persons life choices. You can stop foaming at the mouth now.

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There's a song on Swift's new album Midnights about having a miscarriage, "Bigger than the Whole Sky."

You don't know what she has or hasn't been through.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a song on Swift's new album Midnights about having a miscarriage, "Bigger than the Whole Sky."

You don't know what she has or hasn't been through.

I wasn’t aware of that.

The thing is, her music puts Alwyn and their relationship on a pedestal, when in actuality we knew nothing about him due to his reluctance to share anything about his private life. In reality, they had the same relationship issues as everyone else, and we’re not a fit.

The people mag article (which I imagine came from her publicist) mentioned that he struggled in his career, and the inequity caused the breakup. That’s giving him a bit of a kick in the pants on the way out!

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^*were, not we’re

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Anonymous wrote:DP. I think it’s natural to wonder if an unmarried, childless couple breaking up after six years in their mid thirties (she’s turning 34) wants to have kids. Sadly this is NBD for a guy like Joe Alwyn, but more complicated for any mid-thirties woman, regardless of whether she’s Taylor swift or not.

We know nothing about why she doesn’t have children- does she not want them, does he not want them, does one not want them yet, was one unable to commit to their relationship, or did they struggle to conceive? What I’m more certain about is that Taylor is very much aware that there is a “typical” window for a woman to have kids, and for whatever reason (by choice or not) she is living her life fully without kids.

And I think the narrative you’re pushing that the most successful woman in show business can’t figure out how to have a child is sexist, deluded and gross. What people want is for Taylor to WANT to have a baby, and they are very disturbed that she does not conform to “all that 1950s shit.” It’s right there in her songs! She has no interest!

Would it be better if she had multiple kids with a gross cheater like Beyonce? Or with multiple baby daddies at 21 like the Kardashians?

Calm down, lady. All I’m saying is that it’s natural to wonder about it because women have more of a biological clock than men do, and she’s not 20. Certainly not judging her one way or the other nor do I care if she gets married or has kids. Simply observing a very public persons life choices. You can stop foaming at the mouth now.

yeah but what are you “wondering” about? how can you not get that she would have a baby if she wanted one? are you confused about how birth control works?

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Anonymous wrote:There's a song on Swift's new album Midnights about having a miscarriage, "Bigger than the Whole Sky."

You don't know what she has or hasn't been through.

I wasn’t aware of that.

The thing is, her music puts Alwyn and their relationship on a pedestal, when in actuality we knew nothing about him due to his reluctance to share anything about his private life. In reality, they had the same relationship issues as everyone else, and we’re not a fit.

The people mag article (which I imagine came from her publicist) mentioned that he struggled in his career, and the inequity caused the breakup. That’s giving him a bit of a kick in the pants on the way out!

code word for “Joe became a whiny b when Taylor started prepping for her tour and wasn’t spending the same amount of time with him.” There’s a reason the breakup came during the tour.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. I think it’s natural to wonder if an unmarried, childless couple breaking up after six years in their mid thirties (she’s turning 34) wants to have kids. Sadly this is NBD for a guy like Joe Alwyn, but more complicated for any mid-thirties woman, regardless of whether she’s Taylor swift or not.

We know nothing about why she doesn’t have children- does she not want them, does he not want them, does one not want them yet, was one unable to commit to their relationship, or did they struggle to conceive? What I’m more certain about is that Taylor is very much aware that there is a “typical” window for a woman to have kids, and for whatever reason (by choice or not) she is living her life fully without kids.

And I think the narrative you’re pushing that the most successful woman in show business can’t figure out how to have a child is sexist, deluded and gross. What people want is for Taylor to WANT to have a baby, and they are very disturbed that she does not conform to “all that 1950s shit.” It’s right there in her songs! She has no interest!

Would it be better if she had multiple kids with a gross cheater like Beyonce? Or with multiple baby daddies at 21 like the Kardashians?

Calm down, lady. All I’m saying is that it’s natural to wonder about it because women have more of a biological clock than men do, and she’s not 20. Certainly not judging her one way or the other nor do I care if she gets married or has kids. Simply observing a very public persons life choices. You can stop foaming at the mouth now.

yeah but what are you “wondering” about? how can you not get that she would have a baby if she wanted one? are you confused about how birth control works?

Didn’t Taylor grow up in Tennessee? That’s the south. The wealthy men and women in the south get married and have kids shortly after college. 34 and unmarried and childless is very, very weird and is going to leads to lots of gossip.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11957647/amp/Taylor-Swift-Joe-Alwyn-began-struggle-career-differences.html

It’s sad that she was punished for her career success.

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I don't think it's fair of you to blame Alwyn for their lack of communication about the details of their personal lives. I thought it was healthy for Swift to be more private about her relationship. I thought that showed growth. And she certainly talked about their decision for privacy (and wrote about being private in her songs ha) as though it was a good thing, and made their relationship more special and just for them instead of for consumption by the public.

I'm sad for her that they broke up. She writes and talks about wanting children and grandchildren as though it's definitely something that she does want to have in her life. I hope that this relationship gave her some freedom and happiness and experience with a "good" relationship so that she can build on that for her next one.

It's HARD to be a successful woman entertainer, especially when your fan base is so interested in and demanding of details of your life. I hope she can have privacy and the ability to live her life the way she wants, and I hope she finds lasting love, since it's been something she's wanted for so long. Her music has made me really happy over the years and I want her to be happy, too!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's fair of you to blame Alwyn for their lack of communication about the details of their personal lives. I thought it was healthy for Swift to be more private about her relationship. I thought that showed growth. And she certainly talked about their decision for privacy (and wrote about being private in her songs ha) as though it was a good thing, and made their relationship more special and just for them instead of for consumption by the public.

I'm sad for her that they broke up. She writes and talks about wanting children and grandchildren as though it's definitely something that she does want to have in her life. I hope that this relationship gave her some freedom and happiness and experience with a "good" relationship so that she can build on that for her next one.

It's HARD to be a successful woman entertainer, especially when your fan base is so interested in and demanding of details of your life. I hope she can have privacy and the ability to live her life the way she wants, and I hope she finds lasting love, since it's been something she's wanted for so long. Her music has made me really happy over the years and I want her to be happy, too!

She has been writing about love, marriage and children since she was 14! I so wish she is able to have the family and love she longs for.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. I think it’s natural to wonder if an unmarried, childless couple breaking up after six years in their mid thirties (she’s turning 34) wants to have kids. Sadly this is NBD for a guy like Joe Alwyn, but more complicated for any mid-thirties woman, regardless of whether she’s Taylor swift or not.

We know nothing about why she doesn’t have children- does she not want them, does he not want them, does one not want them yet, was one unable to commit to their relationship, or did they struggle to conceive? What I’m more certain about is that Taylor is very much aware that there is a “typical” window for a woman to have kids, and for whatever reason (by choice or not) she is living her life fully without kids.

And I think the narrative you’re pushing that the most successful woman in show business can’t figure out how to have a child is sexist, deluded and gross. What people want is for Taylor to WANT to have a baby, and they are very disturbed that she does not conform to “all that 1950s shit.” It’s right there in her songs! She has no interest!

Would it be better if she had multiple kids with a gross cheater like Beyonce? Or with multiple baby daddies at 21 like the Kardashians?

Calm down, lady. All I’m saying is that it’s natural to wonder about it because women have more of a biological clock than men do, and she’s not 20. Certainly not judging her one way or the other nor do I care if she gets married or has kids. Simply observing a very public persons life choices. You can stop foaming at the mouth now.

yeah but what are you “wondering” about? how can you not get that she would have a baby if she wanted one? are you confused about how birth control works?

Didn’t Taylor grow up in Tennessee? That’s the south. The wealthy men and women in the south get married and have kids shortly after college. 34 and unmarried and childless is very, very weird and is going to leads to lots of gossip.

Yes, TS is defined by being unmarried and childless. Let’s gossip!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's fair of you to blame Alwyn for their lack of communication about the details of their personal lives. I thought it was healthy for Swift to be more private about her relationship. I thought that showed growth. And she certainly talked about their decision for privacy (and wrote about being private in her songs ha) as though it was a good thing, and made their relationship more special and just for them instead of for consumption by the public.

I'm sad for her that they broke up. She writes and talks about wanting children and grandchildren as though it's definitely something that she does want to have in her life. I hope that this relationship gave her some freedom and happiness and experience with a "good" relationship so that she can build on that for her next one.

It's HARD to be a successful woman entertainer, especially when your fan base is so interested in and demanding of details of your life. I hope she can have privacy and the ability to live her life the way she wants, and I hope she finds lasting love, since it's been something she's wanted for so long. Her music has made me really happy over the years and I want her to be happy, too!

She has been writing about love, marriage and children since she was 14! I so wish she is able to have the family and love she longs for.

yeah I feel so sorry for her. surely her life is miserable. PS might want to listen to her more recent lyrics which pretty clearly express that she is not interested in marriage per se.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. I think it’s natural to wonder if an unmarried, childless couple breaking up after six years in their mid thirties (she’s turning 34) wants to have kids. Sadly this is NBD for a guy like Joe Alwyn, but more complicated for any mid-thirties woman, regardless of whether she’s Taylor swift or not.

We know nothing about why she doesn’t have children- does she not want them, does he not want them, does one not want them yet, was one unable to commit to their relationship, or did they struggle to conceive? What I’m more certain about is that Taylor is very much aware that there is a “typical” window for a woman to have kids, and for whatever reason (by choice or not) she is living her life fully without kids.

And I think the narrative you’re pushing that the most successful woman in show business can’t figure out how to have a child is sexist, deluded and gross. What people want is for Taylor to WANT to have a baby, and they are very disturbed that she does not conform to “all that 1950s shit.” It’s right there in her songs! She has no interest!

Would it be better if she had multiple kids with a gross cheater like Beyonce? Or with multiple baby daddies at 21 like the Kardashians?

Calm down, lady. All I’m saying is that it’s natural to wonder about it because women have more of a biological clock than men do, and she’s not 20. Certainly not judging her one way or the other nor do I care if she gets married or has kids. Simply observing a very public persons life choices. You can stop foaming at the mouth now.

yeah but what are you “wondering” about? how can you not get that she would have a baby if she wanted one? are you confused about how birth control works?

Didn’t Taylor grow up in Tennessee? That’s the south. The wealthy men and women in the south get married and have kids shortly after college. 34 and unmarried and childless is very, very weird and is going to leads to lots of gossip.

She grew up in PA. She moved to TN to pursue music.