Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a super interesting and legit question in the culture bucket

Now imagine asking it about some non white group

Uhh…it’s asked all the time

Cubans vs Mexicans is a massive discussion point in voting patterns within the Latino diaspora

Within Indians there is a stark Divide between Punjabis and South Indians (the former vote Republican way more often)

Within Asians you have fancy Asians vs jungle Asians (the former are way more Dems but trending r ….the lattter are more r relatively speaking)

WTH are “Jungle Asians?”

I learned it from my Korean American friend. Apparently, in Asian cultures, there is a hierarchy with the Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans viewed differently than those from areas in southeast Asia (namely, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, etc). They look down on them and they really, really look down on those from the Philippines.

Thank you. I wanted to know that too. I was hoping I wasn't one. Or maybe hoping I was one.

Noted fancy Asian Ali Wong covered this in her seminal treatise "Baby Cobra," available now on Netflix.

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Anonymous wrote:So is this the new way to further divide people? "Oh Im white, but you know, Mayflower white, not shouty second generation Irish or French white."

Somehow there was never any inter ethnic strife in the USA after prior mass waves of German, Irish, Italian, and eastern European immigration. Nope, this whole division is a brand new thing.

Oh please. White americans dont divide by their great-grandparents nationality. Literally no one cares.

Uhhh, yes they do.

Only in a really commercialized way. Most white people learned about their european ancestry on a trip to Epcot.

I have had just too many experiences where someone says "I'm x nationality!" And you start talking to them in their supposed mother tongue and they dont actually speak it. You're just American. And I am also just American bc when I go to my supposed homeland, it is culturally different from how I was raised... as an American.

Languange is not a market specially for older generations. We were not allowed to learn it. It was considered to inhibit learning in English. FWIW I am not fluent but I have studied it. Have second cousins still in Europe. My moms first cousins there only recently died (within two years).. I grew up on ethnic food, am a lifelong member of an ethnic fraternal organization, I belong to a hyphenated American historical society, maintain contact with family abroad, spent a summer studying abroad there, and carry on many traditions that my family celebrates overseas. Most of my Italian, German, Mexican, Lebanese, Polish, Chaldean, and a few Irish Irish friends growing up had a parent or grandparent that immigrated here. Foreign languages were and still are spoken in their parents homes. Heck my family’s Catholic parish says Mass in a combination of Spanish, Polish and English. We grew up in a major city and on the edge of it. If someone asked what your background was no one said Italian-American, they said Italian. And voting anything other than D was more than frowned upon.

I agree SOME people are far removed from their overseas heritage but plenty of us are not AND we don’t speak the family’s immigrant language.

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Anonymous wrote:So is this the new way to further divide people? "Oh Im white, but you know, Mayflower white, not shouty second generation Irish or French white."

Somehow there was never any inter ethnic strife in the USA after prior mass waves of German, Irish, Italian, and eastern European immigration. Nope, this whole division is a brand new thing.

Oh please. White americans dont divide by their great-grandparents nationality. Literally no one cares.

Uhhh, yes they do.

Only in a really commercialized way. Most white people learned about their european ancestry on a trip to Epcot.

I have had just too many experiences where someone says "I'm x nationality!" And you start talking to them in their supposed mother tongue and they dont actually speak it. You're just American. And I am also just American bc when I go to my supposed homeland, it is culturally different from how I was raised... as an American.

That’s a direct result of racism that was experienced by many white people despite the popular narrative these days about being privileged. They were so “privileged” that they had to abandon their own culture in order for their family to be accepted in America. And now they get to be told that they have no ethnicity.

Well said.

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After the Civil War and Reconstruction, upper class whites in the South oppressed Black citizens with Jim Crow laws while middle and lower class whites were the violent Klansmen and lynchers. Most upper class whites were anti-Klan because they depended on cheap Black labor and every time the Klan did some violent shit a few thousand more Blacks took the train to Chicago or Detroit or other northern cities. When they got to those cities, they faced a similar clannish dynamic from the white working class, which was divided into immigrant ethnic groups that also clashed with each other. American cities weren’t so much a melting pot. More like crabs in a bucket pulling each other down.

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Anonymous wrote:Are Midwestern Americans of Scandinavian descent the same type of White as Yankee WASPs? I can’t keep up with all the categorizing here.

No. Midwestern Scandinavians are Homestead Act settlers. They are tough, hard-scrabble, farming-subzero-temperature-lands people.

Yankee WASPs are wealthy merchant class. They are more cultured in the traditional sense.

In Hunger Games terms, Midwestern Scandinavians are District 9 and Yankee WASPs are District 1.

Whose traditional sense?

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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/06/02/inside-the-republican-rebound-in-new-york-00099420

Today in Politico — reminded me of this thread.

Pay attention to the names and a clear trend starts to appear

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Because WASPs are still at the top of the social/economic hierarchy

Visit the rust belt sometime and behold the hordes of poor whites of Scottish, German, Irish & Italian origin.

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Wow, I thought this racist thread had been deleted long ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Because WASPs are still at the top of the social/economic hierarchy

Visit the rust belt sometime and behold the hordes of poor whites of Scottish, German, Irish & Italian origin.

What does this bigotry have to do with the Cuba Adjustment Act?

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Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?

Does 'white ethnics' now include brown skinned people that the liberals said we hated? Because all of a sudden, the media has switched narratives on that.

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Anonymous wrote:The "spicy whites," Jews, Italians, Greeks who have historically had only conditional "whiteness" in this country and, thus, formed the backbone of the old left are sadly leeching into the Republican party in greater numbers, and have done, since Reagan. Part of this is fundamentalism in religion that is making these communities more religious and more rightward - just like America as a whole, and part of it is the conversion of America into a service-based economy, etc.

This Jewish woman got sick of democrats painting Jewish Rs as Nazis.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a super interesting and legit question in the culture bucket

Now imagine asking it about some non white group

All the blacks, etc. in the DAR and on the Mayflower?

No, don’t be dense, I mean about the various cultural subcategories of blacks, Latinos, etc

People talk about that all the time -- Latinos growing more conservative, etc.

I’m talking about subcategories. There are, as I’m sure you know, many different groups called “Latino.” Different occupational patterns, countries of origin, recency of immigration, on and on.

Right, and people sometimes discuss things like that. Keep on keepin on, MAGA-face! Somebody's takin' somethin' from ya!

The individual isn't taking from another individual. The democrats in office are taking from one individual and giving it to the other, simply based on race.

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Biden's immigration policy is going to swing AAs to the right. Ignore American citizens who need in favor of immigrants? Nope

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Anonymous wrote:Biden's immigration policy is going to swing AAs to the right. Ignore American citizens who need in favor of immigrants? Nope

Conservatives have been hoping for this “rightward” swing for 70+ years. Wake me up when it happens.

AA voters won’t swing for Republicans because conservatives try gin up hatred against AA’s with every new ethnic group that immigrates here.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like a fitting rite of passage to assimilation for these white ethnic groups to hate non-white groups. It's the American Way.

Are the WASPs so far removed from their own bigotry and hate towards others that they have forgotten their storied past? How do you not recognize your ancestors in the rhetoric spewed by these white ethnic MAGA supporters?

This is typical leftist drivel. Republicans hate the policies. We hate that the “ethnics” you state we hate are being raped at the border. We hate that their children are being abused and lost. We hate that you are further relegating poor AAs into continuing impoverished lives because you want to increase your own power. We hate that by not properly vetting people, you are increasing danger to women and children.