OP here. Just reread what I wrote and I forgot to edit. Ignore the first sentence of my response. |
So to be clear, you still don't have any examples from your kids' school |
Just to be clear, the above poster isn't me, the OP. Please see my response in 01/18/2023 17:04 |
The second one spoke more to me and to what I;ve seen in DC. |
OP here. I'm simplfying and using Kendi to represent what I dislike about this line of thinking. It's not that I'm anti-diversity or believe that there is no racism and everything is wonderful. I am trying to distinguish the type of thinking I disagree with (that I am representing by Kendi in the above) and the type of thinking I agree with. I only use Kendi because ppl are obsessed with quoting him and quoting deangelo. |
Are people being obtuse or do they really just not understand? One of the many examples of out of control wokeness would be what recently happened at Hamlin college. |
OP here. I agree with all of what you said but then you have the problem of the 47 genders that PP responding to you mentioned lol. The problem is that this ideology has gone too far and is completely divorced from reality. People in my home country look at the US as a country filled with crazies (from both sides of the ideological spectrum). |
DP. I looked back and your post didn’t actually come through unless you click on the quote. Well I have to say that the one specific concern you mentioned an actually seems… pretty minor, especially if you believe as you say that such concepts are real. You would really pull your kids out of their school for this? Sorry I can’t be more sympathetic. It’s just that my DD has faced actual racial bullying (I am the poster moving from public to private) and I would certainly welcome a little more wokeness in her environment. I also would urge you to reconsider whether you are really that much of an outsider as you are imagining. Again, it’s easy to imagine everyone is either a maga fool or rushing to defund police based on media impressions. But I have found actual fellow liberal parents (and even conservative parents 😉) are much more reasonable and moderate than the picture often painted. |
It was a melting pot in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s: You were sent home and told to come back when you knew English. You learned it at home in 3 mos. So did your mom Everyone played baseball outside in the parks until called in for dinner, in every language. School spirit and sense of community reigned Two parent households more common, as was dressing up on weekends. Then Community broke down and crime spread, suburbs then prospered and places like balto, south side chicago, etc never regained their status or safety or working class. |
Oh mean Soros money? Or the public schools buying curricula from LGBTQIA2+ activist groups circa 2020? |
Jesus preached kindness and forgiving because he knows human nature is about power and greed. |
OP here. Yeah I mentioned it because it resonated with me as a Muslim. In the Arab world people would have thought the painting was weird, maybe a bit interesting and surprising, probably disagreed with it and then moved on. You see this with CAIR's response too. Also so many Muslim academics (many of them pretty conservative e.g. Yaqeen institute types and Jonathan Brown who is Hanbali thought the entire thing was absurd). And yes I know its a college but its a reflection of what is happening generally. I honestly don't have any specific examples from our school other than what I mentioned in 01/18/2023 15:28. Nothing specific happened, it's just based on the language the school is using, I can predict where they are heading. |
Wokeness in general is divorced from reality and a war on Mother Nature. Mother Nature always wins in the end which explains the seething rage beneath the surface. |
OP here. Both groups are sending the country off the cliff. People in my country think that American progressives are insane (they obviously can't stand the right but they don't ridicule them just hate them). This article from The Nation makes very good points. If the World Cup showed anything, its that the rest of the world is moving on from the US. https://www.thenation.com/article/world/world-cup-2022-qatar/ |
Perhaps the rub is that controversial and one-sided theories like kendi, gender fluidity, CRT, identity labels, trans jazz Jennings books, and other revisionist takes were supplanted into k-8 weekly curricula with no debate, context or age appropriateness. it’s one thing to layer that in a high school history class, it’s another to spend months per year in grades k-8 on it. The brainwashing agenda is clear, and the divisiveness rapidly erodes the fabric of society. And the older kids are now eye rolling it. And failing grammar and math tests. |