Carolyn Hax - can someone be a good person if they don't love dogs? WTF

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Anonymous wrote:I like small, sweet natured, old dogs. They are few and far between. I am a nature lover but I feel that cats and dogs are not good for the environment.

Why are animals not good for the environment?

Lots of reasons. Pet industry has created more mass produced, plastic stuff that’ll end up in landfills. Then there’s commercial pet food, which is mostly meat- or fish-based. Very environmentally costly. And let waste run-off contributes to water pollution.

The sentiment that animals are bad for the environment is hilarious. You're just pointing out things that humans have done to domesticate animals. Once again, humans are the problem, not animals.

Well, sure. It’s not the animals themselves, it’s the phenomenon of pet ownership. That’s what we’re talking about here.

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Anonymous wrote:I like small, sweet natured, old dogs. They are few and far between. I am a nature lover but I feel that cats and dogs are not good for the environment.

Why are animals not good for the environment?

Cats kill lots of birds, squirrels, bunnies, etc, but those are animals that basically have no other natural predator.

Birds, squirrels, and bunnies have plenty of other predators. Hawks, owls, fox, other birds...

You must not have ever owned an outdoor cat. They are far more ruthless and efficient killing machines than those other predators.

I disagree. The house cat is a hobbiest killer. They don't have to kill to eat. They go on killing sprees, then give it a rest for long periods. No way is a cat a better hunter/killer than, for example, an owl who must hunt in order to survive. Same for those others I mentioned.

I've had nothing but outdoor cats. I have two now. Trust me, I know all about it. Nothing they kill is in any danger of going extinct around here. There will always be plenty of: mice, voles, small birds, bats, bunnies, frogs, and chipmunks. None of those animals live very long anyway. If the cat doesn't get it, another predator will, or it will soon die in any case. Yet, they thrive.

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Anonymous wrote:I like small, sweet natured, old dogs. They are few and far between. I am a nature lover but I feel that cats and dogs are not good for the environment.

Why are animals not good for the environment?

Cats kill lots of birds, squirrels, bunnies, etc, but those are animals that basically have no other natural predator.

Birds, squirrels, and bunnies have plenty of other predators. Hawks, owls, fox, other birds...

You must not have ever owned an outdoor cat. They are far more ruthless and efficient killing machines than those other predators.

I disagree. The house cat is a hobbiest killer. They don't have to kill to eat. They go on killing sprees, then give it a rest for long periods. No way is a cat a better hunter/killer than, for example, an owl who must hunt in order to survive. Same for those others I mentioned.

I've had nothing but outdoor cats. I have two now. Trust me, I know all about it. Nothing they kill is in any danger of going extinct around here. There will always be plenty of: mice, voles, small birds, bats, bunnies, frogs, and chipmunks. None of those animals live very long anyway. If the cat doesn't get it, another predator will, or it will soon die in any case. Yet, they thrive.

I didn’t say outdoor cats were going to make squirrels and birds extinct, idiot. It is precisely because cats kill for fun rather than to eat that they are more damaging to the local environment than owls, foxes, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I like small, sweet natured, old dogs. They are few and far between. I am a nature lover but I feel that cats and dogs are not good for the environment.

Why are animals not good for the environment?

Cats kill lots of birds, squirrels, bunnies, etc, but those are animals that basically have no other natural predator.

Birds, squirrels, and bunnies have plenty of other predators. Hawks, owls, fox, other birds...

You must not have ever owned an outdoor cat. They are far more ruthless and efficient killing machines than those other predators.

I disagree. The house cat is a hobbiest killer. They don't have to kill to eat. They go on killing sprees, then give it a rest for long periods. No way is a cat a better hunter/killer than, for example, an owl who must hunt in order to survive. Same for those others I mentioned.

I've had nothing but outdoor cats. I have two now. Trust me, I know all about it. Nothing they kill is in any danger of going extinct around here. There will always be plenty of: mice, voles, small birds, bats, bunnies, frogs, and chipmunks. None of those animals live very long anyway. If the cat doesn't get it, another predator will, or it will soon die in any case. Yet, they thrive.

I didn’t say outdoor cats were going to make squirrels and birds extinct, idiot. It is precisely because cats kill for fun rather than to eat that they are more damaging to the local environment than owls, foxes, etc.

The lack of logic here is mind boggling. But that tends to be the case with those who resort to ad hominem attacks.

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Hitler loved his dogs! There is that!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced that Hax thinks she is some sort of prophet. She is so incredibly self absorbed that she has serial kiler vibes.

In that way she's no different from many Post writers over the years.

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Anonymous wrote:I like small, sweet natured, old dogs. They are few and far between. I am a nature lover but I feel that cats and dogs are not good for the environment.

Why are animals not good for the environment?

Cats kill lots of birds, squirrels, bunnies, etc, but those are animals that basically have no other natural predator.

Birds, squirrels, and bunnies have plenty of other predators. Hawks, owls, fox, other birds...

You must not have ever owned an outdoor cat. They are far more ruthless and efficient killing machines than those other predators.

I disagree. The house cat is a hobbiest killer. They don't have to kill to eat. They go on killing sprees, then give it a rest for long periods. No way is a cat a better hunter/killer than, for example, an owl who must hunt in order to survive. Same for those others I mentioned.

I've had nothing but outdoor cats. I have two now. Trust me, I know all about it. Nothing they kill is in any danger of going extinct around here. There will always be plenty of: mice, voles, small birds, bats, bunnies, frogs, and chipmunks. None of those animals live very long anyway. If the cat doesn't get it, another predator will, or it will soon die in any case. Yet, they thrive.

I didn’t say outdoor cats were going to make squirrels and birds extinct, idiot. It is precisely because cats kill for fun rather than to eat that they are more damaging to the local environment than owls, foxes, etc.

The lack of logic here is mind boggling. But that tends to be the case with those who resort to ad hominem attacks.

Your lack of ability to understand obvious logic is mind-boggling. And there's really no other way to describe your arguments but idiotic.

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Anonymous wrote:To me it is a character flaw, especially if they do not like animals or pets in general. Ask a dog about the character of a person, and you will get your answer.

So, how did a dog judge this man so poorly?

https://medium.com/m/global-identity-2?redirectUrl=https://short-history.com/hitlers-favourite-dog-1cfc8f047924

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Anonymous wrote:I like small, sweet natured, old dogs. They are few and far between. I am a nature lover but I feel that cats and dogs are not good for the environment.

Why are animals not good for the environment?

Cats kill lots of birds, squirrels, bunnies, etc, but those are animals that basically have no other natural predator.

Birds, squirrels, and bunnies have plenty of other predators. Hawks, owls, fox, other birds...

You must not have ever owned an outdoor cat. They are far more ruthless and efficient killing machines than those other predators.

I disagree. The house cat is a hobbiest killer. They don't have to kill to eat. They go on killing sprees, then give it a rest for long periods. No way is a cat a better hunter/killer than, for example, an owl who must hunt in order to survive. Same for those others I mentioned.

I've had nothing but outdoor cats. I have two now. Trust me, I know all about it. Nothing they kill is in any danger of going extinct around here. There will always be plenty of: mice, voles, small birds, bats, bunnies, frogs, and chipmunks. None of those animals live very long anyway. If the cat doesn't get it, another predator will, or it will soon die in any case. Yet, they thrive.

I didn’t say outdoor cats were going to make squirrels and birds extinct, idiot. It is precisely because cats kill for fun rather than to eat that they are more damaging to the local environment than owls, foxes, etc.

No need to call me names. And don't worry, "the local environment" is just fine. A few less rodents and too-slow birds hardly make a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:I like small, sweet natured, old dogs. They are few and far between. I am a nature lover but I feel that cats and dogs are not good for the environment.

Why are animals not good for the environment?

Cats kill lots of birds, squirrels, bunnies, etc, but those are animals that basically have no other natural predator.

Birds, squirrels, and bunnies have plenty of other predators. Hawks, owls, fox, other birds...

You must not have ever owned an outdoor cat. They are far more ruthless and efficient killing machines than those other predators.

I disagree. The house cat is a hobbiest killer. They don't have to kill to eat. They go on killing sprees, then give it a rest for long periods. No way is a cat a better hunter/killer than, for example, an owl who must hunt in order to survive. Same for those others I mentioned.

I've had nothing but outdoor cats. I have two now. Trust me, I know all about it. Nothing they kill is in any danger of going extinct around here. There will always be plenty of: mice, voles, small birds, bats, bunnies, frogs, and chipmunks. None of those animals live very long anyway. If the cat doesn't get it, another predator will, or it will soon die in any case. Yet, they thrive.

I didn’t say outdoor cats were going to make squirrels and birds extinct, idiot. It is precisely because cats kill for fun rather than to eat that they are more damaging to the local environment than owls, foxes, etc.

But cats have contributed to the extinction of many, many species of birds…

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Anonymous wrote:I like small, sweet natured, old dogs. They are few and far between. I am a nature lover but I feel that cats and dogs are not good for the environment.

Why are animals not good for the environment?

Cats kill lots of birds, squirrels, bunnies, etc, but those are animals that basically have no other natural predator.

Birds, squirrels, and bunnies have plenty of other predators. Hawks, owls, fox, other birds...

You must not have ever owned an outdoor cat. They are far more ruthless and efficient killing machines than those other predators.

I disagree. The house cat is a hobbiest killer. They don't have to kill to eat. They go on killing sprees, then give it a rest for long periods. No way is a cat a better hunter/killer than, for example, an owl who must hunt in order to survive. Same for those others I mentioned.

I've had nothing but outdoor cats. I have two now. Trust me, I know all about it. Nothing they kill is in any danger of going extinct around here. There will always be plenty of: mice, voles, small birds, bats, bunnies, frogs, and chipmunks. None of those animals live very long anyway. If the cat doesn't get it, another predator will, or it will soon die in any case. Yet, they thrive.

I didn’t say outdoor cats were going to make squirrels and birds extinct, idiot. It is precisely because cats kill for fun rather than to eat that they are more damaging to the local environment than owls, foxes, etc.

But cats have contributed to the extinction of many, many species of birds…

Yes, I've read the wildly exaggerated. highly speculative claims with crazy projections about the amount of killing attributable to cats. Only on an island with an over-population of feral cats has any bird species been wiped out. I have no such concerns where I live. I've seen what they kill and they remain abundant.

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So...people who keep dogs that have attempted to kill their family members are better people than someone like me who thinks dogs are "meh"? Okay, yeah!

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I don’t mind people who are neutral. But dogs are SO sweet and loving. I don’t understand people, like the OP’s boyfriend, who spend a lot of time with a dog, and don’t end up falling head over heals in love with them.

Dogs have been bred over thousands of years to be kind and solicitous to humans. They want to be with you and they want to know how to make you happy. They also live in the moment so spending time with them is so positive and uplifting. They’re not able to ruminate on the past or worry about the future. They just want each moment to be the best it can be.

And they’re so sweet and cute! What’s not to love? I don’t get people who harden their hearts against them.

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Actively disliking dogs AND people who own them is a character flaw. For example, people like brunch granny who judge women for owning dogs instead of popping out babies in their 20s.

Preferring not to own a dog while accepting that others prioritize them is not a character flaw. The writer’s boyfriend seems to fall in this category and though he’s not a bad person, he’s a bad fit for her.

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Anonymous wrote:I love dogs. I hate dog "moms".

It’s always white chicks that are over the top dog moms

Start the misogyny and the racism. Why is this acceptable?

+1000. If something like this was said about an POC you would be shouted down from the rooftops. (FWIW - to be clear, I don't think it's okay to make this kind of derogatory generalization about any group)