NY mom murdered

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How did the 13 year old not hear what was going on? Did they know mom went out for the night?


Depending upon what the house was like and how heavily the kid slept, this isn't unusual.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My first instinct was to assume the younger son did the murder - the degree of savagery screams hormones and emotions, and everything about the coverup screams youthful irrationality.

I don’t think you can write off the kid as too small or weak to move the body - the wheeled bag makes all that much much easier once the body is in the bag - as a 110lb 5’2” female of average strength I could definitely drag 120lbs on wheels, all day long.

As a former prosecutor/defense attorney I’m inclined to believe it is the son and they are eliminating all other possibilities before charging him. I just think an adult male would not have bothered moving the body at all, nor sending lame text messages to try to throw off the cops - but I’ve seen stranger things, so we’ll see.

Either way and even if she was engaged in adultery, nobody deserves to die that way.


Really? I get tired lugging my 50lb luggage on wheels around the airport. Especially since it's the leaning kind shown in the video. I wouldn't want to double the weight and pull it through a neighborhood for 1/2 mile.


The term 'dead weight' is correct!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My first instinct was to assume the younger son did the murder - the degree of savagery screams hormones and emotions, and everything about the coverup screams youthful irrationality.

I don’t think you can write off the kid as too small or weak to move the body - the wheeled bag makes all that much much easier once the body is in the bag - as a 110lb 5’2” female of average strength I could definitely drag 120lbs on wheels, all day long.

As a former prosecutor/defense attorney I’m inclined to believe it is the son and they are eliminating all other possibilities before charging him. I just think an adult male would not have bothered moving the body at all, nor sending lame text messages to try to throw off the cops - but I’ve seen stranger things, so we’ll see.

Either way and even if she was engaged in adultery, nobody deserves to die that way.


Someone of low intelligence in the heat of the moment is that dumb. Have you watched 'There is Something about Pam"...lol? That real life murder--the 2nd one was so poorly executed.


Exactly. How about ignoring the obvious and all clues? Is that other pp Prosecutor Leah Askey ?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I want to say that the dad has a friendly, open face, and I don't believe he could be involved. I think this is something in the lady's past. Or else a particularly psychopathic 13 year old.


I don't know if the dad was involved but this post is ridiculous. Having a friendly open face means nothing. You would have been in love with Ted Bundy.


Seriously. Scott Peterson looked charming until he murdered his pregnant wife and unborn son.
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Anonymous wrote:Gotta love how many people are normalizing a teenager being in a goth band that screams about and acts out things like killing yourself, having blood on you and that sort of thing. Nothing to see here...move it along.

“One of the most famous, prolonged mass media scares in history, the Satanic Panic was characterized at its peak by fearful media depictions of godless teenagers and the deviant music and media they consumed.”


LOL though doth protest too much. Plenty of people act out their mental health challenges through the arts in both health and unhealthy ways. His lyrics and performances suggest some internal struggles. Does that make him a killer no, but it is concerning? Could this all be cries for help though? Probably unless he somehow gets his demons all out through the music and can function well otherwise.


Many of us were in to punk back in the day and heard this same garbage. None of us were violent or satan worshipers but boy did you and your type love to go on about it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gotta love how many people are normalizing a teenager being in a goth band that screams about and acts out things like killing yourself, having blood on you and that sort of thing. Nothing to see here...move it along.

“One of the most famous, prolonged mass media scares in history, the Satanic Panic was characterized at its peak by fearful media depictions of godless teenagers and the deviant music and media they consumed.”


LOL though doth protest too much. Plenty of people act out their mental health challenges through the arts in both health and unhealthy ways. His lyrics and performances suggest some internal struggles. Does that make him a killer no, but it is concerning? Could this all be cries for help though? Probably unless he somehow gets his demons all out through the music and can function well otherwise.


Many of us were in to punk back in the day and heard this same garbage. None of us were violent or satan worshipers but boy did you and your type love to go on about it.


Totally. I was pretty boring and pop/preppy in my tastes but my sister was goth, loved death metal, etc. Also smart, academic, successful, and kind. I thought we’d moved past this sort of dumb stereotyping.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My thoughts which are worth a penny...

That figure may be the boy even if he has long hair. Even boys put their long hair up. Adrenalin, etc can make you stronger. More teens are into lifting weight these days, so he could be strong. Drugs can also do strange things.

Could definitely be a crazy one night stand. Most of the women I have known who post that many selfies-some of them with facial enhancement (which wasn't needed because she is already attractive)....are off. They need a constant stream of people making them feel attractive. It's thirsty. They certainly were not all having affairs, but they all have an above normal need for attention and admiration. Not all psychokillers look crazy. Even if this guy looked like a harmless little nerd, she may have taken someone home just because he made her feel like the hottest thing on the planet.


your intro sentence may be the best one I've ever read on DCUM.

Now back to the story!
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Anonymous wrote:Someone who knew the family and didn’t want the kid to find his mom killed. That’s why they rolled the bag away.


so perhaps the theory about her friend doing it...hmmm.


It’s a woman who is her friend, the woman is also a mother. She knows the family and didn’t want the son to have the extra trauma of seeing her body. The person who killed her is an involved parent, with multiple children. The person is also protecting their own family, from the woman they killed. They see the woman as a threat to their children, by breaking up their own family through the affair. The killer is disorganized and feels remorse, that is why they wheeled the body away. The killer has children who participate in hockey and knew to look for the duffel bag.
Anonymous
Orrrrr the kid did it. Sometimes the simplest answer is the answer!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did the 13 year old not hear what was going on? Did they know mom went out for the night?


Depending upon what the house was like and how heavily the kid slept, this isn't unusual.


Yes agree. What about the family dog? Wonder if the dog was in the house and started barking when mom was attacked. None of their neighbors heard anything at all?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did the 13 year old not hear what was going on? Did they know mom went out for the night?


Depending upon what the house was like and how heavily the kid slept, this isn't unusual.


Yes agree. What about the family dog? Wonder if the dog was in the house and started barking when mom was attacked. None of their neighbors heard anything at all?


Dog was already at the dog sitter. Mom and son were supposed to fly out to Michigan the next morning to meet the dad and eldest son.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Orrrrr the kid did it. Sometimes the simplest answer is the answer!


I don't think so. Blood/DNA evidence would likely be all over the rest of the house, if the youngest son did it - his clothes, the bathroom, his sheets, towels, etc.

Video evidence would've caught the son walking back toward the house at some point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Orrrrr the kid did it. Sometimes the simplest answer is the answer!
pretty much every article has said the kid didn’t do it and was released because of lack of involvement. Stop trying to make fetch happen.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone who knew the family and didn’t want the kid to find his mom killed. That’s why they rolled the bag away.


so perhaps the theory about her friend doing it...hmmm.


It’s a woman who is her friend, the woman is also a mother. She knows the family and didn’t want the son to have the extra trauma of seeing her body. The person who killed her is an involved parent, with multiple children. The person is also protecting their own family, from the woman they killed. They see the woman as a threat to their children, by breaking up their own family through the affair. The killer is disorganized and feels remorse, that is why they wheeled the body away. The killer has children who participate in hockey and knew to look for the duffel bag.


Doubtful. That speaks to a man—the number of stab wounds. 58.

I definitely think it was someone she had an ongoing affair with, most likely the one she sie t the night with when the husband was looking for her (called the police) last summer.

I think she was drunk. Lover was probably trying to break it off, stood her up, she probably started texting abs threatening to call his wife abs the guy snapped.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Orrrrr the kid did it. Sometimes the simplest answer is the answer!
pretty much every article has said the kid didn’t do it and was released because of lack of involvement. Stop trying to make fetch happen.


She’s a cheater abs really doesn’t want to believe e the guys she meets online are a threat. She seems heavily into steering it away from cheating.
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