2022 Olympics

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The only medals the US took in 2018 were ice dance and team. So a half dozen of those people standing there would not be Olympic medalists otherwise. Be sure to let them know someone on DCUM thinks their once in a lifetime Olympic Bronze medal is inconsequential but just showing up for vibes is amazing!


You know in your heart if they were good enough they'd have actual solo competition medals.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, Ilia should be competing at the Olympics — it is so sketchy how they ignore the results of nationals to pick whom ever they want.. And he is a local kid (FCPS student)!


Not picking Malinin for the Olympics was absolutely the right decision. What would be sketchy is if US Figure Skating ignored the careful criteria they set up to choose the Olympic team. The criteria is there for a reason. They followed it, which was the right thing to do. Body of work is reliable. Brown and Zhou (Malinin beat Zhou at Nationals, too, remember?) have come through time and again for the US. (Well, Zhou often chokes, like he did last night, but he also has had good moments.) Malinin had one good competition. He could be a flash in the pan. Who knows? The Olympics are not the time to figure that out. The right US men are on the team.


Brown hasn't "come through." He skates clean programs that are not up to the current international standards of difficulty. He does not place internationally and will not.

That "flash in the pan" could have been competitive with his program. Oh well.



Sure he has. Brown finished 7th in the 2021 World Championships, ensuring that, paired with Chen’s score, the US would have the chance for 3 Olympic slots in the men’s event. Zhou finished - oops! - 25th in those championships! Didn’t even qualify for the long program. Cough cough.

Brown also qualified for the Grand Prix final this season - meaning he was among the top 6 men in the world.


I’m not a particular fan of Zhou either, but there was little doubt he’d be joining Chen on the team. Brown was the wrong call.

I’d love to see them send a 27-year-old woman to the Olympics who finished off the podium at nationals who only does double jumps when all the other women do triples. Oh, wait. That would never happen.


Because of the high level of difficulty in the way Brown executes skating elements, he out scores most of the quadsters. Execution counts in the judging system. That’s part of the sport. Brown executes skating elements in a way that few others can.

Plus, if you insist, Brown performed a ratified quad in a recent competition.
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The only medals the US took in 2018 were ice dance and team. So a half dozen of those people standing there would not be Olympic medalists otherwise. Be sure to let them know someone on DCUM thinks their once in a lifetime Olympic Bronze medal is inconsequential but just showing up for vibes is amazing!


You know in your heart if they were good enough they'd have actual solo competition medals.


I can’t say this is good enough to win the toddlers competition…she can barely stand upright



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The only medals the US took in 2018 were ice dance and team. So a half dozen of those people standing there would not be Olympic medalists otherwise. Be sure to let them know someone on DCUM thinks their once in a lifetime Olympic Bronze medal is inconsequential but just showing up for vibes is amazing!


You know in your heart if they were good enough they'd have actual solo competition medals.


+1
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Not her first fall or second but THIRD. That has to be an Olympic record

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Tanith Belbin medaled, kept dual citizenship which is a better prospective, and ended up in a lucrative career in part because her native language was the same as her host country.

Zhu/Beverly Yi sounds like a scared kid who was tricked into doing something she never should have and lost everything in the process. The same thing is happening to Eileen Gu btw - but at least she speaks the language for a country she is now citizen of for the rest of her life. They're both losing like Kristin Fraser and since you keep bringing her up - what happened to her? Where is she now? No one knows.


The point is that you're being hypocritical and racist when you're making up horror stories about her. Skaters switch countries all the time for their own purposes. It has little to do with their plans for the rest of their lives. You clearly have no issues with American skaters acquiring citizenships of obscure (and corrupt) countries in the name of an Olympic berth. You also clearly have no issues with America handing out citizenship to skaters that may enhance its competitive record internationally. But someone switching to China? Uh huh, no, can't have that, because something.

Stop bringing up medals. She did not go there to medal, do you really think the Chinese skating federation doesn't have a clear idea of their skaters' abilities? Do you think that only athletes with a chance to medal should go to the Olympics? Then the rest of the ladies skaters who aren't from Russia may as well pack their bags right now and go home. Do you understand that for most athletes just to GO to the Olympics is a pinnacle of their achievement? Not to medal but to GO? She had no chance to go to the Olympics to represent the US. Now, whatever happens to her competitive record, she'll always be an Olympian. Do you get that this is meaningful for her?



Now I've heard it all. Who gets on an Olympic team with the express wish NOT TO MEDAL? For themselves or for their country? Or maybe I'm just too used to Americans medaling consistently. Here its desirable. We don't join a competition to lose.

- signed a forever fan of Mackayla Maroney who made this face not because she lost but because she was unimpressed with Silver.



I am going to explain this like you're five years old.

There will be thirty lady skaters competing in these Olympic games. Three will medal. Twenty-seven will not.

Now, a couple of trick questions:

Do you think the twenty-seven who will NOT medal already know they will not medal? Like, they've compared their bag of tricks to the ladies on top and realistically deduced they have no chance to medal? Yes or no?

OK. Another trick question. Do you think these twenty-seven ladies should just pack their bags and go home since they won't medal and most of them know they won't medal?

Or is there, I dunno, some special value and meaning attached to participating in the Olympic games? To just freaking being there?

Oh wait, I'm going to send a message to the American women skaters that they should go home. Some chick on DCUM thinks Americans should only enter competitions they are going to win. She's so, I dunno, USED to Americans winning, she can't take them NOT winning.


You must be desperate because you're making basic mistakes. Zhu qualified under the women's TEAM short program. She fell under that program and took the entire Chinese team (7 other competitors) who were in 3rd place - down to 5th. Preventing an entire TEAM from medaling. So a) it wasn't just 3 out of 27 people who can medal and b) her failure became her team's failure which makes it even more pitiful. Thanks to her Japan is in the lead for Bronze and there's no way anyone but Russia and U.S. will take Silver and Gold for team medals (not even speaking on individuals). The lead is too far to catch up for a team medal with one program remaining.

Here's the U.S. celebrating its 2018 Bronze TEAM medal.




As someone who is an avid figure skating fan I have to say there is absolutely no one woman the Chinese could have chosen that would have gotten higher than 5th place in the women’s portion of the team event. China excels at pairs, they have had a few men with potential, their ice dance team is middle of the road at best (although getting better and their Charlie Chaplain program a few years ago was truly delightful), but they just don’t have a crop of internationally competitive women.
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The only medals the US took in 2018 were ice dance and team. So a half dozen of those people standing there would not be Olympic medalists otherwise. Be sure to let them know someone on DCUM thinks their once in a lifetime Olympic Bronze medal is inconsequential but just showing up for vibes is amazing!


You know in your heart if they were good enough they'd have actual solo competition medals.


I can’t say this is good enough to win the toddlers competition…she can barely stand upright





I wonder if she's having second thoughts about finding her roots in order to make an Olympic team
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I felt so awful for that poor girl. She is a very pretty skater, but the pressure got her. This isn’t uncommon. Once you have one fall, your confidence is just shattered. She actually completed quite a few good jumps. It broke my heart to know how terrible this outcome was for her and her family.
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Anonymous wrote:VZ just tested positive for Covid

Ilia might skate after all

Unlikely. Apparently the deadline for alternates is before skate order is set, which was done yesterday. Plus, they weren't allowed to bring the alternates with them, so if he's still in the US, there's no way he can get to Beijing in time. The competition starts tonight!
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The only medals the US took in 2018 were ice dance and team. So a half dozen of those people standing there would not be Olympic medalists otherwise. Be sure to let them know someone on DCUM thinks their once in a lifetime Olympic Bronze medal is inconsequential but just showing up for vibes is amazing!


You know in your heart if they were good enough they'd have actual solo competition medals.


I can’t say this is good enough to win the toddlers competition…she can barely stand upright





You're being utterly ridiculous.
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Anonymous wrote:I felt so awful for that poor girl. She is a very pretty skater, but the pressure got her. This isn’t uncommon. Once you have one fall, your confidence is just shattered. She actually completed quite a few good jumps. It broke my heart to know how terrible this outcome was for her and her family.


People who criticize her have no idea about how hard it is to do what she does.
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The only medals the US took in 2018 were ice dance and team. So a half dozen of those people standing there would not be Olympic medalists otherwise. Be sure to let them know someone on DCUM thinks their once in a lifetime Olympic Bronze medal is inconsequential but just showing up for vibes is amazing!


You know in your heart if they were good enough they'd have actual solo competition medals.


I can’t say this is good enough to win the toddlers competition…she can barely stand upright





You're being utterly ridiculous.


She fell four times. FOUR. TIMES. Her team score is a 1 and that’s because negative doesn’t exist on the scoreboard.

I’ve never seen anything that bad. And she still has to compete in the ladies single.
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fine, you go out there with razor blades on your feet and see how you do

Our top skier fell on her first run. Another broke her leg. Bad things do happen. Skaters have bad Olympics. Nathan Chen fell in his short programs in 2018 and didn't even medal.

I hope she skates without falls in the competition next week. Honestly, the team competition is made up nonsense anyway. She has time to pull it back together and skate clean next week.
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Anonymous wrote:VZ just tested positive for Covid

Ilia might skate after all

Unlikely. Apparently the deadline for alternates is before skate order is set, which was done yesterday. Plus, they weren't allowed to bring the alternates with them, so if he's still in the US, there's no way he can get to Beijing in time. The competition starts tonight!


damn - I thought they would send the alternates with the team this year given the covid situation.

That is too bad - he deserved the spot if Vincent can't skate.
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She fell four times. FOUR. TIMES. Her team score is a 1 and that’s because negative doesn’t exist on the scoreboard.

I’ve never seen anything that bad. And she still has to compete in the ladies single.


Tell me you're new to watching figure skating without telling me you're new to watching figure skating.
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