Athletes have such an edge

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Anonymous wrote:This is our culture. I agree it makes no sense. Really what do sports have to do with pursuit of higher education? I don't think.any other countries play collegiate sports like we do. But you have to accept it as it is just the way it is here.

I do accept it but it’s crazy. His sat is about hundreds below the average accepted sat there.

That’s because SAT was never a relevant metric for his admission. He focused on the correct things and won.

He understood the assignment.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes and 30% of spots go to international students. Test optional is not really for white or asian students especially males. It all sucks ...

What international student can use athletics to get an education in their home country? Zero.

Are there any at all?

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Anonymous wrote:This is our culture. I agree it makes no sense. Really what do sports have to do with pursuit of higher education? I don't think.any other countries play collegiate sports like we do. But you have to accept it as it is just the way it is here.

I do accept it but it’s crazy. His sat is about hundreds below the average accepted sat there.

That’s because SAT was never a relevant metric for his admission. He focused on the correct things and won.

He understood the assignment.

You win!

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Anonymous wrote:Yes and 30% of spots go to international students. Test optional is not really for white or asian students especially males. It all sucks ...

What international student can use athletics to get an education in their home country? Zero.

Are there any at all?

Oxford Rhodes scholars.

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Anonymous wrote:DC's classmate was recruited for a sport and just found out he is deferred. How can that happen? Seems like the school should have told him and the family that it was not looking good.

D3? That's terrible. The coach should have given him some indication this was coming.

Yes, D3. Kid had no idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes and 30% of spots go to international students. Test optional is not really for white or asian students especially males. It all sucks ...

What international student can use athletics to get an education in their home country? Zero.

Are there any at all?

Oxford Rhodes scholars.

They give that to HS age athletes? What country?

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Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

I don't give a rats ass if my lawyer or my investment advisor or my doctor can catch a ball. I need their brains...period.

College athlete is still a great proxy for work ethic. There's a reason that they also have an edge when applying to jobs.

This. They can take feedback, work hard, be a teammate, and persevere through adversity. And they have great time management skills, because to get recruited to the best schools they need a strong academic transcript on top of the elite sports skill.

Can't remember who, but someone said, "I don't hire athletes because they know how to be successful, I hire them as they know how to fail, sometimes game after game, week after week.

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Anonymous wrote:DC's classmate was recruited for a sport and just found out he is deferred. How can that happen? Seems like the school should have told him and the family that it was not looking good.

D3? That's terrible. The coach should have given him some indication this was coming.

Yes, D3. Kid had no idea.

That is unacceptable poor communication. Why did the coach and admissions department indicate the student would be admitted?

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Anonymous wrote:The anger and vitriol that parents of non-athletic kids have towards kids who win athletic scholarships to college is pathetic. It's not a zero sum game. They're not taking spots away from your kids, and they're adding to the university community in a way that your kid cannot.

My kids, for example, were all dorks, without an athletic bone in any of their bodies. They did very well on the college admissions front regardless.

One of my kid's boyfriend, on the other hand, had a perfectly respectable high school record and test scores and was a first-team all met selection in the DMV for a revenue sport. He generated serious interest from several lower level Division I programs with high academic standards without even trying, including an Ivy League school. In the end, however, recruiters took a pass and he was left scrambling. He ended up at a complete no-name school with no scholarship,

They don't just hand out admissions and/or scholarships to athletes. You have to be really, really good.

How have things turned out for the kid? Has got to be disappointing to have had a lot of interest, then it all evaporate.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes and 30% of spots go to international students. Test optional is not really for white or asian students especially males. It all sucks ...

What international student can use athletics to get an education in their home country? Zero.

Are there any at all?

Oxford Rhodes scholars.

They give that to HS age athletes? What country?

It’s PG but requires college athletics or some other high level, so yea, college athletes for the win again.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes and 30% of spots go to international students. Test optional is not really for white or asian students especially males. It all sucks ...

What international student can use athletics to get an education in their home country? Zero.

Are there any at all?

Oxford Rhodes scholars.

They give that to HS age athletes? What country?

It’s PG but requires college athletics or some other high level, so yea, college athletes for the win again.

What counties have college athletics?

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Countries*

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Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

I don't give a rats ass if my lawyer or my investment advisor or my doctor can catch a ball. I need their brains...period.

College athlete is still a great proxy for work ethic. There's a reason that they also have an edge when applying to jobs.

This. They can take feedback, work hard, be a teammate, and persevere through adversity. And they have great time management skills, because to get recruited to the best schools they need a strong academic transcript on top of the elite sports skill.

Can't remember who, but someone said, "I don't hire athletes because they know how to be successful, I hire them as they know how to fail, sometimes game after game, week after week.

Also they are good when leaders are freaking out, they are so use to staying composed while their coaches are losing it.

I have stories but that’s not for this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Countries*

Google Rhodes scholars they have a whole site that will explain it to you.

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Anonymous wrote:The anger and vitriol that parents of non-athletic kids have towards kids who win athletic scholarships to college is pathetic. It's not a zero sum game. They're not taking spots away from your kids, and they're adding to the university community in a way that your kid cannot.

My kids, for example, were all dorks, without an athletic bone in any of their bodies. They did very well on the college admissions front regardless.

One of my kid's boyfriend, on the other hand, had a perfectly respectable high school record and test scores and was a first-team all met selection in the DMV for a revenue sport. He generated serious interest from several lower level Division I programs with high academic standards without even trying, including an Ivy League school. In the end, however, recruiters took a pass and he was left scrambling. He ended up at a complete no-name school with no scholarship,

They don't just hand out admissions and/or scholarships to athletes. You have to be really, really good.

How have things turned out for the kid? Has got to be disappointing to have had a lot of interest, then it all evaporate.

It happens all the time when coaches get fired… offers evaporate.