Keep Healthy Kids in School - Don't Opt-In to APS' Surveillance Testing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Right. So APS isn’t getting rid of masks after Youngkin’s inauguration. Or testing. Or quarantines.

He won’t mandate mask optional with high #s. If he even can at all - has that worked in other states? I thought bans on mask mandates were struck down?

He won't? Have masks ever worked with "high numbers"? Or was it just that people didn't mask hard enough?

There will be cases the rest of our lives, including high cases over the next several years. You're saying kids need to mask in school for years to come! Lunatics! Please keep it up though so people know your true intentions.

Bans on mask mandates have now been upheld at the federal appellate level, from Florida to Texas to other places (reversing lower courts). The district court level is where some have been struck down by partisan judges. And we'll have state funding battles with the new legislative session if school districts want to hold out, as successfully happened in Florida.

Come January 15th, many school districts throughout VA will be going mask optional immediately (Chesapeake, the 6th largest district, said they're doing so on January 3rd). Also, private schools throughout VA and NOVA will be doing it on January 15th as well. And we already know from other places that had mask optional schools, it hasn't made any difference - good luck with the political pressure when all of that occurs, you child-maskers.

Sit TF down, hysterical cow.

Yes, masks work. Yes, masks will eventually come off when community spread drops.

We are still *in* a pandemic - it’s not endemic yet. There is a very transmissible variant about to hit like a freight train. After it burns out - hopefully quickly - let’s talk about next steps. It’s a constantly evolving situation so blanket bans on masks, testing, or quarantines will only hurt us in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Right. So APS isn’t getting rid of masks after Youngkin’s inauguration. Or testing. Or quarantines.

He won’t mandate mask optional with high #s. If he even can at all - has that worked in other states? I thought bans on mask mandates were struck down?

He won't? Have masks ever worked with "high numbers"? Or was it just that people didn't mask hard enough?

There will be cases the rest of our lives, including high cases over the next several years. You're saying kids need to mask in school for years to come! Lunatics! Please keep it up though so people know your true intentions.

Bans on mask mandates have now been upheld at the federal appellate level, from Florida to Texas to other places (reversing lower courts). The district court level is where some have been struck down by partisan judges. And we'll have state funding battles with the new legislative session if school districts want to hold out, as successfully happened in Florida.

Come January 15th, many school districts throughout VA will be going mask optional immediately (Chesapeake, the 6th largest district, said they're doing so on January 3rd). Also, private schools throughout VA and NOVA will be doing it on January 15th as well. And we already know from other places that had mask optional schools, it hasn't made any difference - good luck with the political pressure when all of that occurs, you child-maskers.

Sit TF down, hysterical cow.

Yes, masks work. Yes, masks will eventually come off when community spread drops.

We are still *in* a pandemic - it’s not endemic yet. There is a very transmissible variant about to hit like a freight train. After it burns out - hopefully quickly - let’s talk about next steps. It’s a constantly evolving situation so blanket bans on masks, testing, or quarantines will only hurt us in the long run.

There will be variants for years to come - these people want our kids masked for years to come. We're only getting out of this by everyone getting COVID, and everyone will get it. COVID will never be eradicated. Let it rip!

Masks work? Please all, read the best study on masks, the Bangladesh random control trial - cloth masks didn't work, and surgical only reduced spread by 11% for people 50 and over (and this was all in a pre-vaccine environment too. For those surgical cases vs. control, how many less cases out of those 50 and over vs. control group = 20 cases! It's very debateable whether that 11% was even caused by masks, considering spread was lower when people wore red masks and other cofounders.

And yes, mask optional will be happening at schools all over VA on January 15th. My kids' private Christian school here already said they're gone the day Youngkin axes the statewide order.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There will be variants for years to come - these people want our kids masked for years to come. We're only getting out of this by everyone getting COVID, and everyone will get it. COVID will never be eradicated. Let it rip!

Masks work? Please all, read the best study on masks, the Bangladesh random control trial - cloth masks didn't work, and surgical only reduced spread by 11% for people 50 and over (and this was all in a pre-vaccine environment too. For those surgical cases vs. control, how many less cases out of those 50 and over vs. control group = 20 cases! It's very debateable whether that 11% was even caused by masks, considering spread was lower when people wore red masks and other cofounders.

And yes, mask optional will be happening at schools all over VA on January 15th. My kids' private Christian school here already said they're gone the day Youngkin axes the statewide order.

This is a surveillance testing thread, not masks. And I agree with let it rip.

We can't continue living like this. Don't get tested. Testing only results in more quarantines. For what? For a virus everyone will get. It just results in healthy kids missing school to lamely try to delay the inevitable.

Hospital capacity in VA and locally is completely fine. There's 0 logistical issues with letting it rip. See OP's original post refuting other common pro-testing arguments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Right. So APS isn’t getting rid of masks after Youngkin’s inauguration. Or testing. Or quarantines.

He won’t mandate mask optional with high #s. If he even can at all - has that worked in other states? I thought bans on mask mandates were struck down?

He won't? Have masks ever worked with "high numbers"? Or was it just that people didn't mask hard enough?

There will be cases the rest of our lives, including high cases over the next several years. You're saying kids need to mask in school for years to come! Lunatics! Please keep it up though so people know your true intentions.

Bans on mask mandates have now been upheld at the federal appellate level, from Florida to Texas to other places (reversing lower courts). The district court level is where some have been struck down by partisan judges. And we'll have state funding battles with the new legislative session if school districts want to hold out, as successfully happened in Florida.

Come January 15th, many school districts throughout VA will be going mask optional immediately (Chesapeake, the 6th largest district, said they're doing so on January 3rd). Also, private schools throughout VA and NOVA will be doing it on January 15th as well. And we already know from other places that had mask optional schools, it hasn't made any difference - good luck with the political pressure when all of that occurs, you child-maskers.

Sit TF down, hysterical cow.

Yes, masks work. Yes, masks will eventually come off when community spread drops.

We are still *in* a pandemic - it’s not endemic yet. There is a very transmissible variant about to hit like a freight train. After it burns out - hopefully quickly - let’s talk about next steps. It’s a constantly evolving situation so blanket bans on masks, testing, or quarantines will only hurt us in the long run.

There will be variants for years to come - these people want our kids masked for years to come. We're only getting out of this by everyone getting COVID, and everyone will get it. COVID will never be eradicated. Let it rip!

Masks work? Please all, read the best study on masks, the Bangladesh random control trial - cloth masks didn't work, and surgical only reduced spread by 11% for people 50 and over (and this was all in a pre-vaccine environment too. For those surgical cases vs. control, how many less cases out of those 50 and over vs. control group = 20 cases! It's very debateable whether that 11% was even caused by masks, considering spread was lower when people wore red masks and other cofounders.

And yes, mask optional will be happening at schools all over VA on January 15th. My kids' private Christian school here already said they're gone the day Youngkin axes the statewide order.

Your kids aren’t even in APS?

Go away, nutter.

[Anonymous]

Yeah why am I not surprised this lady has her kids in a Christian school? It seems often the loudest Christians have the least desire to be good Samaritans and look out for their neighbors and not just themselves. Funny, that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Right. So APS isn’t getting rid of masks after Youngkin’s inauguration. Or testing. Or quarantines.

He won’t mandate mask optional with high #s. If he even can at all - has that worked in other states? I thought bans on mask mandates were struck down?

He won't? Have masks ever worked with "high numbers"? Or was it just that people didn't mask hard enough?

There will be cases the rest of our lives, including high cases over the next several years. You're saying kids need to mask in school for years to come! Lunatics! Please keep it up though so people know your true intentions.

Bans on mask mandates have now been upheld at the federal appellate level, from Florida to Texas to other places (reversing lower courts). The district court level is where some have been struck down by partisan judges. And we'll have state funding battles with the new legislative session if school districts want to hold out, as successfully happened in Florida.

Come January 15th, many school districts throughout VA will be going mask optional immediately (Chesapeake, the 6th largest district, said they're doing so on January 3rd). Also, private schools throughout VA and NOVA will be doing it on January 15th as well. And we already know from other places that had mask optional schools, it hasn't made any difference - good luck with the political pressure when all of that occurs, you child-maskers.

Sit TF down, hysterical cow.

Yes, masks work. Yes, masks will eventually come off when community spread drops.

We are still *in* a pandemic - it’s not endemic yet. There is a very transmissible variant about to hit like a freight train. After it burns out - hopefully quickly - let’s talk about next steps. It’s a constantly evolving situation so blanket bans on masks, testing, or quarantines will only hurt us in the long run.

You realize that the Spanish flu is still circulating today. In fact, it's the precursor to all of the H1N1 variant strains we encounter year after year.

There will never not be a new variant. The only "next step" necessary is to admit that fact and stop pretending like non-pharmaceutical interventions are going to make any difference. They won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Right. So APS isn’t getting rid of masks after Youngkin’s inauguration. Or testing. Or quarantines.

He won’t mandate mask optional with high #s. If he even can at all - has that worked in other states? I thought bans on mask mandates were struck down?

He won't? Have masks ever worked with "high numbers"? Or was it just that people didn't mask hard enough?

There will be cases the rest of our lives, including high cases over the next several years. You're saying kids need to mask in school for years to come! Lunatics! Please keep it up though so people know your true intentions.

Bans on mask mandates have now been upheld at the federal appellate level, from Florida to Texas to other places (reversing lower courts). The district court level is where some have been struck down by partisan judges. And we'll have state funding battles with the new legislative session if school districts want to hold out, as successfully happened in Florida.

Come January 15th, many school districts throughout VA will be going mask optional immediately (Chesapeake, the 6th largest district, said they're doing so on January 3rd). Also, private schools throughout VA and NOVA will be doing it on January 15th as well. And we already know from other places that had mask optional schools, it hasn't made any difference - good luck with the political pressure when all of that occurs, you child-maskers.

Sit TF down, hysterical cow.

Yes, masks work. Yes, masks will eventually come off when community spread drops.

We are still *in* a pandemic - it’s not endemic yet. There is a very transmissible variant about to hit like a freight train. After it burns out - hopefully quickly - let’s talk about next steps. It’s a constantly evolving situation so blanket bans on masks, testing, or quarantines will only hurt us in the long run.

You realize that the Spanish flu is still circulating today. In fact, it's the precursor to all of the H1N1 variant strains we encounter year after year.

There will never not be a new variant. The only "next step" necessary is to admit that fact and stop pretending like non-pharmaceutical interventions are going to make any difference. They won't.

I didn’t say it’s going away. Just the surge in cases/hospitalizations from omicron will burn out.

We have to be flexible and adjust as it plays out. If numbers go low, we can adjust. If numbers go high, we can adjust. If something unexpected happened, we can adjust. And use any of our tools, as needed. Masks help. Ventilation helps. Quarantines help.

We aren’t going to throw them all out just because some parents (some who don’t even have kids in APS?) are throwing tantrums.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Right. So APS isn’t getting rid of masks after Youngkin’s inauguration. Or testing. Or quarantines.

He won’t mandate mask optional with high #s. If he even can at all - has that worked in other states? I thought bans on mask mandates were struck down?

He won't? Have masks ever worked with "high numbers"? Or was it just that people didn't mask hard enough?

There will be cases the rest of our lives, including high cases over the next several years. You're saying kids need to mask in school for years to come! Lunatics! Please keep it up though so people know your true intentions.

Bans on mask mandates have now been upheld at the federal appellate level, from Florida to Texas to other places (reversing lower courts). The district court level is where some have been struck down by partisan judges. And we'll have state funding battles with the new legislative session if school districts want to hold out, as successfully happened in Florida.

Last I checked the Spanish flu and H1N1 didn’t kill over 800,000 Americans in a 20 month period. This “let it rip” theory is sadistic.

Come January 15th, many school districts throughout VA will be going mask optional immediately (Chesapeake, the 6th largest district, said they're doing so on January 3rd). Also, private schools throughout VA and NOVA will be doing it on January 15th as well. And we already know from other places that had mask optional schools, it hasn't made any difference - good luck with the political pressure when all of that occurs, you child-maskers.

Sit TF down, hysterical cow.

Yes, masks work. Yes, masks will eventually come off when community spread drops.

We are still *in* a pandemic - it’s not endemic yet. There is a very transmissible variant about to hit like a freight train. After it burns out - hopefully quickly - let’s talk about next steps. It’s a constantly evolving situation so blanket bans on masks, testing, or quarantines will only hurt us in the long run.

You realize that the Spanish flu is still circulating today. In fact, it's the precursor to all of the H1N1 variant strains we encounter year after year.

There will never not be a new variant. The only "next step" necessary is to admit that fact and stop pretending like non-pharmaceutical interventions are going to make any difference. They won't.

[Anonymous]

Last I checked the Spanish flu and H1N1 didn’t kill over 800,000 Americans in a 20 month period. This “let it rip” theory is sadistic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not in your district, but based on my experience I do not trust schools to be rational. Here is what happened to us: We did a rapid test at home because my teen woke up lethargic, clammy, and seemed flushed. No fever but clearly under the weather. To our shock, the rapid test came back positive. We immediately alerted the school, trying to be good citizens. An hour later we did another rapid that came back negative. We also scheduled PCRs for my kid and the rest of the family. Everything came back negative. My kid never got a fever and was fine by the next morning. My kid's pediatrician said it was a false positive. The help line for the rapid test said it was a false positive. My kid had three negative PCRs total. No other symptoms. Our entire house is vaccinated and the people who can be are boosted.

But the school said that it was a covid positive, refused to reconsider, and forced a 10 day quarantine, without any real support for virtual learning or catching up. So my teen, who is taking a heavy course load, lost ten days of classroom work coming up to finals and will likely end the semester with worse grades. All because I was honest and shared the positive rapid test. I feel awful about it, and certainly will never share a non-PCR test result again.

I just don't trust the schools to be rational. I've since heard of this happening to other families too. So, some schools treat a rapid like a PCR for purposes of excluding a vaccinated child even with multiple negative PCRs, but would never allow a rapid to be allowed to clear a child. It's wholly irrational behavior and I personally will never allow routine testing going forward because I don't feel I can trust the school to be rational with the results of routine testing.

Your first mistake is sharing anything with the school. If my kid is sick I do a rapid at home test with thr FULL INTENT if it's positive to NOT notify the school and return my child to school when he tests negative. I'd also NEVER get a PCR test because that gets reported to thr health department. NOPE. I then call the sick in as mental health days. They won't question mental health concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not in your district, but based on my experience I do not trust schools to be rational. Here is what happened to us: We did a rapid test at home because my teen woke up lethargic, clammy, and seemed flushed. No fever but clearly under the weather. To our shock, the rapid test came back positive. We immediately alerted the school, trying to be good citizens. An hour later we did another rapid that came back negative. We also scheduled PCRs for my kid and the rest of the family. Everything came back negative. My kid never got a fever and was fine by the next morning. My kid's pediatrician said it was a false positive. The help line for the rapid test said it was a false positive. My kid had three negative PCRs total. No other symptoms. Our entire house is vaccinated and the people who can be are boosted.

But the school said that it was a covid positive, refused to reconsider, and forced a 10 day quarantine, without any real support for virtual learning or catching up. So my teen, who is taking a heavy course load, lost ten days of classroom work coming up to finals and will likely end the semester with worse grades. All because I was honest and shared the positive rapid test. I feel awful about it, and certainly will never share a non-PCR test result again.

I just don't trust the schools to be rational. I've since heard of this happening to other families too. So, some schools treat a rapid like a PCR for purposes of excluding a vaccinated child even with multiple negative PCRs, but would never allow a rapid to be allowed to clear a child. It's wholly irrational behavior and I personally will never allow routine testing going forward because I don't feel I can trust the school to be rational with the results of routine testing.

Your first mistake is sharing anything with the school. If my kid is sick I do a rapid at home test with thr FULL INTENT if it's positive to NOT notify the school and return my child to school when he tests negative. I'd also NEVER get a PCR test because that gets reported to thr health department. NOPE. I then call the sick in as mental health days. They won't question mental health concerns.

You are a sh1tty person

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last I checked the Spanish flu and H1N1 didn’t kill over 800,000 Americans in a 20 month period. This “let it rip” theory is sadistic.

Spanish flu killed 50M people worldwide. LOL And unlike Spanish flu, there are 3 highly effective vaccines available. Funny who the anti-vaxxers are now (the COVID doom crowd).

Let it rip is the only way out of this. In fact, the vast majority of Americans have already returned to normal and are practicing it already.

[Anonymous]

NFL is most likely to only testing symptomatic players before the playoffs. Why? Because you can't shut down life for a highly, highly transmissible respiratory virus over asymptomatic cases.

That is the future. This is exactly what's happening in red states and many places in Europe.

It's only a matter of time. Do you want lock healthy kids out of school because you did a stupid test to "control the spread" when the vast majority of Americans aren't doing that stuff?

That's called just wasting children's education for a fruitless war. Reminds me of the Vietnam or Iraq War.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NFL is most likely to only testing symptomatic players before the playoffs. Why? Because you can't shut down life for a highly, highly transmissible respiratory virus over asymptomatic cases.

That is the future. This is exactly what's happening in red states and many places in Europe.

It's only a matter of time. Do you want lock healthy kids out of school because you did a stupid test to "control the spread" when the vast majority of Americans aren't doing that stuff?

That's called just wasting children's education for a fruitless war. Reminds me of the Vietnam or Iraq War.

Yes, this is going to be the future (hopefully when we get back from winter break!).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last I checked the Spanish flu and H1N1 didn’t kill over 800,000 Americans in a 20 month period. This “let it rip” theory is sadistic.

Spanish flu killed 50M people worldwide. LOL And unlike Spanish flu, there are 3 highly effective vaccines available. Funny who the anti-vaxxers are now (the COVID doom crowd).

Let it rip is the only way out of this. In fact, the vast majority of Americans have already returned to normal and are practicing it already.

I was referencing what’s happening in current times. I was not talking about the Spanish flu back back then, I’m talking about it now. Weird to want to replicate what happened in the early 1910s with COVID. Sicko!