Keep Healthy Kids in School - Don't Opt-In to APS' Surveillance Testing

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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.


There's literally not been a single student disrupted from surveillance testing. But now that you mention it, I'm glad that there's a convenient, free, totally optional testing policy.
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Anonymous wrote:I still just don’t understand why people care so much that other families are choosing to test their kids, asymptomatic or not.

I really don’t understand why some parent groups are advocating that teachers and students are who COVID positive but asymptomatic should remain in the classroom. Aren’t they still infectious at that point because they are, in fact, inflicted with a contagious virus? How can these parents categorize these teachers and students as “healthy” and that they need to remain in the classroom?

As one APE’ster (who seems to be in the minority in encouraging daily testing of all students, mask & vaccine mandates for everyone, and counting all cases and not just those that are moderate-to-severe), the notion of solidarity right now seems out of fashion.


they care because they are afraid of seeing the true measure of cases in schools. it doesn't fit with their narrative of "kids don't get covid and covid doesn't spread in schools." they would prefer to hide the cases.


The closed schoolers are once again pushing closed schools and fearmongering on it. You see it with ArlStar and Smart Restart Twitter pages.

There's open enrollment for the virtual program right now. Ventilation Woman, Lunch Petitioner, Military Wife and the handful of other people in Smart Restart should put their kids in the virtual program if they think in person school is that dangerous. Obviously they don't since they're not putting their kids in the virtual prgram.

This is the same thing that happened last year - complete FOMO. They know in-person is a much superior form of education and they don't want other kids getting ahead of theirs. They'd prefer their kids be virtual, but can't tolerate the idea of other Arlington kids getting ahead of theirs.

So they just fearmonger on AEM, Twitter and DCUM. Now they're pushing for mass testing to find a bunch of asymptomatic cases to shut down school


Dude you just show up on every thread to stalk and bash the same moms. Their crime? Pushing for safety so your kid could be in school. Be thankful, STFU and go get therapy for your obsessive stalking problem.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.


There was just a huge superspreader basketball game and you are pushing for more of this? No thanks.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.


There's literally not been a single student disrupted from surveillance testing. But now that you mention it, I'm glad that there's a convenient, free, totally optional testing policy.


What are you talking about, not a single student disrupted from surveillance testing? My kid missed almost week of school while waiting the five days to get a PCR test (which was negative) after they were deemed a close contact of an asymptomatic kid who was found during surveillance testing. This was before my child could be vaccinated. My child is now so they wouldn’t be excluded based on close contact alone, but there are plenty of kids who are not vaccinated based on their parents’ choices. Those kids have no say whatsoever in whether they get vaccinated, but will lose out on education as a result.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.


There was just a huge superspreader basketball game and you are pushing for more of this? No thanks.


Which school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The closed schoolers are once again pushing closed schools and fearmongering on it. You see it with ArlStar and Smart Restart Twitter pages.

There's open enrollment for the virtual program right now. Ventilation Woman, Lunch Petitioner, Military Wife and the handful of other people in Smart Restart should put their kids in the virtual program if they think in person school is that dangerous. Obviously they don't since they're not putting their kids in the virtual prgram.

This is the same thing that happened last year - complete FOMO. They know in-person is a much superior form of education and they don't want other kids getting ahead of theirs. They'd prefer their kids be virtual, but can't tolerate the idea of other Arlington kids getting ahead of theirs.

So they just fearmonger on AEM, Twitter and DCUM. Now they're pushing for mass testing to find a bunch of asymptomatic cases to shut down school


Dude you just show up on every thread to stalk and bash the same moms. Their crime? Pushing for safety so your kid could be in school. Be thankful, STFU and go get therapy for your obsessive stalking problem.


Are they putting their kids in the virtual program? Open enrollment is going on right now. It's easy to switch back to in-person.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I still just don’t understand why people care so much that other families are choosing to test their kids, asymptomatic or not.

I really don’t understand why some parent groups are advocating that teachers and students are who COVID positive but asymptomatic should remain in the classroom. Aren’t they still infectious at that point because they are, in fact, inflicted with a contagious virus? How can these parents categorize these teachers and students as “healthy” and that they need to remain in the classroom?

As one APE’ster (who seems to be in the minority in encouraging daily testing of all students, mask & vaccine mandates for everyone, and counting all cases and not just those that are moderate-to-severe), the notion of solidarity right now seems out of fashion.


they care because they are afraid of seeing the true measure of cases in schools. it doesn't fit with their narrative of "kids don't get covid and covid doesn't spread in schools." they would prefer to hide the cases.


If they truly believe that case counts and spread are lower in schools than the community, they should jump at the chance to prove it. And no one is making THEM test - they could just encourage others to test so that a greater % participate. If they would just go all hung ho “yay testing” they would have a win-win. They get hard data to keep schools open AND their kids won’t be quarantined for positive test results.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


You may be correct - but let’s wait until the CDC changes or other guidance comes out from the Virginia Health Dept. You can’t just change the rules because you have a hunch they might change in the future.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.


There's literally not been a single student disrupted from surveillance testing. But now that you mention it, I'm glad that there's a convenient, free, totally optional testing policy.


What are you talking about, not a single student disrupted from surveillance testing? My kid missed almost week of school while waiting the five days to get a PCR test (which was negative) after they were deemed a close contact of an asymptomatic kid who was found during surveillance testing. This was before my child could be vaccinated. My child is now so they wouldn’t be excluded based on close contact alone, but there are plenty of kids who are not vaccinated based on their parents’ choices. Those kids have no say whatsoever in whether they get vaccinated, but will lose out on education as a result.


Exactly, your kid got vaccinated. Issue resolved. The testing isn't the problem. We can't set rules based on parental choice about vaccination, just like we can't set rules based on concerns about case counts or anything else you see on AEM. Get vaccinated and get tested. These two mitigation tactics are simple/effective and are far more important than anything else in limiting spread now and in the future. Everything else we're doing is twisting it up to accommodate those who don't want to be jabbed or don't want to be tested.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.


There's literally not been a single student disrupted from surveillance testing. But now that you mention it, I'm glad that there's a convenient, free, totally optional testing policy.


What are you talking about, not a single student disrupted from surveillance testing? My kid missed almost week of school while waiting the five days to get a PCR test (which was negative) after they were deemed a close contact of an asymptomatic kid who was found during surveillance testing. This was before my child could be vaccinated. My child is now so they wouldn’t be excluded based on close contact alone, but there are plenty of kids who are not vaccinated based on their parents’ choices. Those kids have no say whatsoever in whether they get vaccinated, but will lose out on education as a result.


Exactly, your kid got vaccinated. Issue resolved. The testing isn't the problem. We can't set rules based on parental choice about vaccination, just like we can't set rules based on concerns about case counts or anything else you see on AEM. Get vaccinated and get tested. These two mitigation tactics are simple/effective and are far more important than anything else in limiting spread now and in the future. Everything else we're doing is twisting it up to accommodate those who don't want to be jabbed or don't want to be tested.


But before my child was vaccinated, their education was disrupted for nearly a week because of surveillance testing. You may think that’s an acceptable sacrifice, but don’t lie and claim it doesn’t happen.


As for “just vaccinate,” again, we are talking about children who have no say in whether they get vaccinated but will be the ones who suffer the educational disruption. Maybe try recognizing that those children are actually people with their own needs, and not just extensions of their parents you can use as a weapon to punish adults who don’t behave the way you want them too.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.


There's literally not been a single student disrupted from surveillance testing. But now that you mention it, I'm glad that there's a convenient, free, totally optional testing policy.


What are you talking about, not a single student disrupted from surveillance testing? My kid missed almost week of school while waiting the five days to get a PCR test (which was negative) after they were deemed a close contact of an asymptomatic kid who was found during surveillance testing. This was before my child could be vaccinated. My child is now so they wouldn’t be excluded based on close contact alone, but there are plenty of kids who are not vaccinated based on their parents’ choices. Those kids have no say whatsoever in whether they get vaccinated, but will lose out on education as a result.


If kids miss school because they are unvaccinated, too bad. The parents can weigh that as part of the pros and cons of getting vaccinated. Those families don’t get to have it both ways - no vaccine AND no quarantine.
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If kids miss school because they are unvaccinated, too bad. The parents can weigh that as part of the pros and cons of getting vaccinated. Those families don’t get to have it both ways - no vaccine AND no quarantine.


Considering black and Hispanic community have the lowest vaccine uptake, and white Democrats have the highest vaccine uptake, especially affluent ones, this statement is really just

"Screw all those black and brown kids who have to miss school (I don't believe in the ultra-low risk of COVID to kids, even more so after my child got vaccinated). My paranoia over COVID comes before brown and black little kids' education."
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.


There's literally not been a single student disrupted from surveillance testing. But now that you mention it, I'm glad that there's a convenient, free, totally optional testing policy.


What are you talking about, not a single student disrupted from surveillance testing? My kid missed almost week of school while waiting the five days to get a PCR test (which was negative) after they were deemed a close contact of an asymptomatic kid who was found during surveillance testing. This was before my child could be vaccinated. My child is now so they wouldn’t be excluded based on close contact alone, but there are plenty of kids who are not vaccinated based on their parents’ choices. Those kids have no say whatsoever in whether they get vaccinated, but will lose out on education as a result.


If kids miss school because they are unvaccinated, too bad. The parents can weigh that as part of the pros and cons of getting vaccinated. Those families don’t get to have it both ways - no vaccine AND no quarantine.


There you go again, using children as weapons against their parents rather than recognizing their separate needs. Do you also oppose free/reduced cost meal programs in schools?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m guessing CDC comes out with some revamped guidelines in light of Omicron. Current rules don’t make sense when cases transmitting regardless of vaccine status and most everyone is getting it. I expect we move to something more like this: https://time.com/6131104/rethinking-covid-19-restrictions-2022/?fbclid=IwAR1Xwqe7m4yI7n00ofI1-NuQifh9n3v3y_37H5sKgL2wdlF0yzhz7B-ZdpA


On testing from link: Rational Testing Policies

We need to retire the policy of school closures and the cancellation of school sporting events based on asymptomatic testing. While testing and quarantines may have been rationalized as reasonable strategies prior to the availability of vaccines, these disruptions can no longer be justified as having any direct impact on lowering the risk of life-threatening illness among the lives of those subject to the disruptions, namely students, athletes, or even spectators.

Although schools reopened in 2021, parents and students continue to suffer from educational loss and work disruption due to school testing policies and quarantines. The CDC has recently endorsed test to stay as a safe and reasonable policy for keeping kids in school and minimizing educational disruption. This policy should quickly become the norm until school-based testing is completely phased out. Similarly, testing protocols should be updated for all places of work, shortening the period of isolation following infection. Returning to work (or school) as soon as a rapid test is negative, reflecting when COVID-19 is no longer transmissible, is more appropriate than the outdated 7 day period (with a negative test) of isolation.


There's literally not been a single student disrupted from surveillance testing. But now that you mention it, I'm glad that there's a convenient, free, totally optional testing policy.


What are you talking about, not a single student disrupted from surveillance testing? My kid missed almost week of school while waiting the five days to get a PCR test (which was negative) after they were deemed a close contact of an asymptomatic kid who was found during surveillance testing. This was before my child could be vaccinated. My child is now so they wouldn’t be excluded based on close contact alone, but there are plenty of kids who are not vaccinated based on their parents’ choices. Those kids have no say whatsoever in whether they get vaccinated, but will lose out on education as a result.


If kids miss school because they are unvaccinated, too bad. The parents can weigh that as part of the pros and cons of getting vaccinated. Those families don’t get to have it both ways - no vaccine AND no quarantine.


And many of those parents are also pushing for no mask.
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