GuHetero women should stay out of gay spaces?

[Anonymous]

Another Hetero woman who thinks this is tacky and obnoxious. These women are basically fetishizing gay men. It’s yucky, as are many things surrounding hetero wedding festivities. The older I get the more astounded I am that these practices not only survive but grow with each passing decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:False equivalency. Gay bars become gay bars because of the clientele they attract - you can’t “make” a space inaccessible to people based on their sexual orientation. Women and girls - historically and currently under threat by biological males in cases of childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and domestic violence (to say nothing of systemic sexism) - seek to have places and situations where they are most vulnerable to be free from biological males. I think that is a reasonable expectation.

Historically gays have been prosecuted, arrested(with lose of employment to follow), beaten, sexual violence, rape, discriminated against, etc and it stills goes on today. If some gays want a place safe from straights you should respect their rights. You should also not bring a bachelorette party to a gay bar to look at the “gays”. I find it troubling that you seem to say only women experience this and are dismissive of other groups experiences because they are not women.

So, women can demand the same in our safe spaces? We want our spaces to be for biological women to be protected from biological males.

[Anonymous]

Ban bachelorette parties full stop. Easy solution. Too many problems.

[Anonymous]

Yeah. The problem here is bachelorettes. They need to be banned in every public space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:False equivalency. Gay bars become gay bars because of the clientele they attract - you can’t “make” a space inaccessible to people based on their sexual orientation. Women and girls - historically and currently under threat by biological males in cases of childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and domestic violence (to say nothing of systemic sexism) - seek to have places and situations where they are most vulnerable to be free from biological males. I think that is a reasonable expectation.

Historically gays have been prosecuted, arrested(with lose of employment to follow), beaten, sexual violence, rape, discriminated against, etc and it stills goes on today. If some gays want a place safe from straights you should respect their rights. You should also not bring a bachelorette party to a gay bar to look at the “gays”. I find it troubling that you seem to say only women experience this and are dismissive of other groups experiences because they are not women.

So, women can demand the same in our safe spaces? We want our spaces to be for biological women to be protected from biological males.

No. You are lower on the victim ladder. Have respect for your superiors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:False equivalency. Gay bars become gay bars because of the clientele they attract - you can’t “make” a space inaccessible to people based on their sexual orientation. Women and girls - historically and currently under threat by biological males in cases of childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, and domestic violence (to say nothing of systemic sexism) - seek to have places and situations where they are most vulnerable to be free from biological males. I think that is a reasonable expectation.

Historically gays have been prosecuted, arrested(with lose of employment to follow), beaten, sexual violence, rape, discriminated against, etc and it stills goes on today. If some gays want a place safe from straights you should respect their rights. You should also not bring a bachelorette party to a gay bar to look at the “gays”. I find it troubling that you seem to say only women experience this and are dismissive of other groups experiences because they are not women.

So, women can demand the same in our safe spaces? We want our spaces to be for biological women to be protected from biological males.

No. You are lower on the victim ladder. Have respect for your superiors

Clearly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trans women are not a threat to you.

Biological straight women aren't a threat to anyone in a gay bar. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

They are a threat to the existence of a space established exclusively for gay men to feel free to behave as they wish, without judging straight eyes upon them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trans women are not a threat to you.

Biological straight women aren't a threat to anyone in a gay bar. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

They are a threat to the existence of a space established exclusively for gay men to feel free to behave as they wish, without judging straight eyes upon them.

I can understand that. Biological women feel the same in their private safe spaces. As long as there’s fair application to this standard, I’m good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah. The problem here is bachelorettes. They need to be banned in every public space.

+1
Also w/PP on Gender Reveals.

[Anonymous]

So ban women from doing something? Why are women always the ones to suffer

[Anonymous]

The reality is bachelorette parties treat gay bars like going to the zoo. They aren’t there because they have a bunch of gay friends and it’s a place they frequent. They are there to gawk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reality is bachelorette parties treat gay bars like going to the zoo. They aren’t there because they have a bunch of gay friends and it’s a place they frequent. They are there to gawk.

+10000 Drunk straight women in large packs at gay bars are straight up awful. They completely change the tenor of the evening for the queer patrons, and it sucks.

The difference between that and a trans woman using a bathroom is that the trans woman is actually there to go to the bathroom, and her presence has zero impact on my ability to do so.

[Anonymous]

Ok so we go back to policing what women can do

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok so we go back to policing what women can do

Sure, while we're at it, what's up with straight white women who get really into progressive issues and then adopt a queer identity while continuing to exclusively date men.

[Anonymous]

How do you know these female-bodied people don’t identify as men? This thread is premised on a transphobic assumption.