Why not vaccinate all the teachers and be done with this ongoing drama?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want everyone in the school to be required to be vaccinated and then return in person.

If this includes students, then you're looking at a very long time before seeing the inside of a school building.

I kinda agree and think that we need to make sure our parents A.k.a. regular folks can get vaccinated.

And then provide a distance-learning option until kids can get vaccinated safely. My kid is at risk for misc c given an over active immune system (according to pwd kids with the 3 (asthma, eczema, and allergies) have been associated with increased risk.

[Anonymous]

I agree with this. They prioritized “healthcare workers” without digging into whether any individual person is a frontline worker. My sister got vaxed and she does electronic medical records and has been WFH. But eventually she’ll return.

Should prioritize teachers and day care workers over 65+ who don’t live in nursing homes or otherwise have pre-existing conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want everyone in the school to be required to be vaccinated and then return in person.

This is ridiculous and doesn’t make sense. If you’re vaccinated, why would it matter if your 2nd grade student is vaccinated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with this. They prioritized “healthcare workers” without digging into whether any individual person is a frontline worker. My sister got vaxed and she does electronic medical records and has been WFH. But eventually she’ll return.

Should prioritize teachers and day care workers over 65+ who don’t live in nursing homes or otherwise have pre-existing conditions.

Boomers over kids....

[Anonymous]

I know a teacher choosing not to get vaccinated but still going back and I just cannot with that- it's irresponsible.

[Anonymous]

I am the original poster.

Here we go with the false drama:

No teachers I know of, or the WTU has stated that kids should be vaccinated before IPL.

Very few teachers have said they don’t want to be vaccinated.

No virtual teachers have been offered a vaccine. Period.

I’m only asking that teachers and school staff be vaccinated. Then we go right back. The WTU will not have a leg to stand on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want everyone in the school to be required to be vaccinated and then return in person.

If this includes students, then you're looking at a very long time before seeing the inside of a school building.

I kinda agree and think that we need to make sure our parents A.k.a. regular folks can get vaccinated.

And then provide a distance-learning option until kids can get vaccinated safely. My kid is at risk for misc c given an over active immune system (according to pwd kids with the 3 (asthma, eczema, and allergies) have been associated with increased risk.

This risk is still (1) TINY and (2) applies to ALL viruses, just so you know; there is no evidence that COVID carries an increased risk of MISC C relative to the flu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the original poster.

Here we go with the false drama:

No teachers I know of, or the WTU has stated that kids should be vaccinated before IPL.

Very few teachers have said they don’t want to be vaccinated.

No virtual teachers have been offered a vaccine. Period.

I’m only asking that teachers and school staff be vaccinated. Then we go right back. The WTU will not have a leg to stand on.

There are actually teacher unions out there taking the all kids must be vaxxed position; thankfully not in DC yet.

Lots of teachers won't get vaxxed. It's just the demographic reality. Only 60% of nurses in DC chose to get vaxxed; the demographics to DCPS teachers are actually extremely similar. There's just a lot of distrust that's built up over time and all the conspiracy theory nonsense isn't helping.

All teachers will be eligible for the vaccine in 1b (at the same time as daycares, private school teachers, etc). The only group we are waiting on is 65+ and, honestly, I don't think people have carefully looked at the mortality stats if they really don't think old people should be getting vaxxed before teachers who are not being required to return in person. Also, it's worth noting that the WTU could have lobbied for an MOA that said every teacher back (absent FMLA/leave that always applies as a matter of right) following vaccination and they DIDN'T. Why? Because that is not a promise they've made or will make. Liz Davis has already said on the record that vaccines are not enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We're hearing that a significant number of teachers at our school don't want to get vaccinated. So, I'm not sure vaccinations solve the problems at our charter.

If you are offered a vaccine and you refuse then that is not justification to stay on and teach virtually. Get the vaccine and go back to work or elect not to but still go back to work or lose your job.
Grocery store works, daycare workers, home health care & nursing /group homeworks don't get to keep their jobs if they refuse to show up. All of those jobs are equally or higher risk than teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want everyone in the school to be required to be vaccinated and then return in person.

If this includes students, then you're looking at a very long time before seeing the inside of a school building.

I kinda agree and think that we need to make sure our parents A.k.a. regular folks can get vaccinated.

And then provide a distance-learning option until kids can get vaccinated safely. My kid is at risk for misc c given an over active immune system (according to pwd kids with the 3 (asthma, eczema, and allergies) have been associated with increased risk.

This risk is still (1) TINY and (2) applies to ALL viruses, just so you know; there is no evidence that COVID carries an increased risk of MISC C relative to the flu.

This!!! This pandemic has really shown that rational risk assessment is very poorly developed in most people. Also, people have never understood that influenza is actually a serious illness and they still don't want to believe that for kids, it's more dangerous than Covid, because their brains are fogged up by the hysteria the media has been fanning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the original poster.

Here we go with the false drama:

No teachers I know of, or the WTU has stated that kids should be vaccinated before IPL.

Very few teachers have said they don’t want to be vaccinated.

No virtual teachers have been offered a vaccine. Period.

I’m only asking that teachers and school staff be vaccinated. Then we go right back. The WTU will not have a leg to stand on.

Teachers who say they will "eventually" go in are getting vaccinated, but then the school decides not to open. This is the case for my charter. Ergo, yes, there are teachers who are getting vaccinated but are virtual for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the original poster.

Here we go with the false drama:

No teachers I know of, or the WTU has stated that kids should be vaccinated before IPL.

Very few teachers have said they don’t want to be vaccinated.

No virtual teachers have been offered a vaccine. Period.

I’m only asking that teachers and school staff be vaccinated. Then we go right back. The WTU will not have a leg to stand on.

Teachers who say they will "eventually" go in are getting vaccinated, but then the school decides not to open. This is the case for my charter. Ergo, yes, there are teachers who are getting vaccinated but are virtual for the foreseeable future.

+1

Some charters coded their teachers as in person but they are staying virtual. So they can get vaccinated.

And I would argue that a significant percentage of teachers will not get vaccinated. Even 25-30% is enough to really disrupt things. Attend a union meeting and see how many teachers say they won’t be vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

I spoke with a WTU rep. today about this If all teachers are vaccinated and given time for the vaccine (both jabs) to take effect (its not a jab and you are done you have to wait a few weeks) they will go back without a problem, full classrooms, hug the kids, masks most likely until parents and more of the populations is vaccinated. This could have DCPS back in March - mid March.

Some families might be high risk so they could hybrid.

Not only did I ask WTU this I asked my kids's teachers today in our parent teacher conference. The younger two said they can't wait to go back. Yes 100% as soon as they are vaccinated they will come back happily and without fear.

The older teacher for my son's IEP said she is hoping for a vaccine that covers the variants more because of her age. So if the option is available - she would like to wait and work with the kid's who can't come in online one on one.

I am not high risk, I feel 100% confident sending my kid back and me continuing to adhere to the safety measures. The other family in our pod would not send their kid back because mom is high risk. When mom is vaccinated (she's 1c) they will send their son in this scenario.

[Anonymous]

Teachers will get vaccinated and then still refuse to teach. Bank on it. They'll argue it somehow still isn't safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I spoke with a WTU rep. today about this If all teachers are vaccinated and given time for the vaccine (both jabs) to take effect (its not a jab and you are done you have to wait a few weeks) they will go back without a problem, full classrooms, hug the kids, masks most likely until parents and more of the populations is vaccinated. This could have DCPS back in March - mid March.

Some families might be high risk so they could hybrid.

Not only did I ask WTU this I asked my kids's teachers today in our parent teacher conference. The younger two said they can't wait to go back. Yes 100% as soon as they are vaccinated they will come back happily and without fear.

The older teacher for my son's IEP said she is hoping for a vaccine that covers the variants more because of her age. So if the option is available - she would like to wait and work with the kid's who can't come in online one on one.

I am not high risk, I feel 100% confident sending my kid back and me continuing to adhere to the safety measures. The other family in our pod would not send their kid back because mom is high risk. When mom is vaccinated (she's 1c) they will send their son in this scenario.

I don't know if your WTU is manipulating you or misinformed, but WTU has not promised this and, in fact, Liz Davis has already *explicitly* said that vaccines are not the "only" piece necessary for schools to reopen safely. If you don't think that's code for "I plan to move the goal posts again," you have more faith than I do.