Quebec is sending kids back to school-here are the conditions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would keep both of my ES kids home. Different teachers, different classmates, staying in their seat for the entire day including lunch? Not worth it.

So I assume you would homeschool them. Otherwise you’re breaking the law.

Attendance is anticipated to be between 20-30% in Quebec. If it's higher, schools will have to reconsider the plan and change it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would keep both of my ES kids home. Different teachers, different classmates, staying in their seat for the entire day including lunch? Not worth it.

So I assume you would homeschool them. Otherwise you’re breaking the law.

This isn't mandatory. It's more so those returning to work have somewhere to send their kids.

The terms are ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

My 5 year old is starting K in the fall. He would learn to hate school with a routine like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is nuts and too restrictive. I’m all or nothing. Either send the kids back just like before covid or don’t

They won't go back "like before" for a very very long time. So there will be new ideas. This seems...intense though.

The staying in your seats all day and only being allowed outside in a "pre-arranged pattern" are insane. I have a 5 year old. This would be torture.

Now, we could do it if they only went to school for 2 hours a day. Maybe. Because then she could get her formal instruction, come home and PLAY and MOVE.

It takes away one of the most important aspects of school which is the socialization.

[Anonymous]

As a first grade teacher I think it would be VERY hard to get kids to stick to these rules, although not impossible once it becomes a new normal. It would very much require the full support of parents though. Like, your kid will get sent home if they can not follow these rules, and parents must support and reinforce that language at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot see this happening in my school. I would want to know what can be done about students who refuse to follow these rules (because our school will have quite a few of them).

According to a friend (school secretary) in Quebec, those students will be sent home and won't return under these conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a first grade teacher I think it would be VERY hard to get kids to stick to these rules, although not impossible once it becomes a new normal. It would very much require the full support of parents though. Like, your kid will get sent home if they can not follow these rules, and parents must support and reinforce that language at home.

Yes, I think children could learn these rules. But I don't think they should.

Clearly this is too soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The walking around outside in a “pre-arranged pattern” is...bizarre. How are they going to get kids to cooperate with that?

I could see outside mazes or pathways set-up, with different physical things to do. Like a sensory walk, or follow the leader. Paint a looping pathway and put big dots on it every 6 ft - now you have a new game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The walking around outside in a “pre-arranged pattern” is...bizarre. How are they going to get kids to cooperate with that?

I could see outside mazes or pathways set-up, with different physical things to do. Like a sensory walk, or follow the leader. Paint a looping pathway and put big dots on it every 6 ft - now you have a new game.

I think the point is not to touch anything so I’m not sure about a sensory walk, unless it’s visual and auditory.
Honestly, this sounds more like prison than school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is nuts and too restrictive. I’m all or nothing. Either send the kids back just like before covid or don’t

I'm not all or nothing, I will send my kids to school with some (or lots) of changes. But these measures are too much for me.

+1

School is always institutional. But this is beyond the pale.

[Anonymous]

Here’s my take on this, if MCPS tried to implement it:

Anonymous wrote:-To minimize movement, we forecast assigning students to classes nearest to Berlin street entrance (on all 3 floors, if needed only);
-Once assigned to a class, students will spend their entire day (including lunchtime) in their assigned seats
-Students must expect to regroup based on the number of students returning
-Students must not expect to return to their regular class with their classmates; Larla can’t be in a different class from Charla! They have been best friends since daycare. Separating them will be traumatic.
-Your child may not be with the same teachers as before as several members of our staff will not be returning to school Lazy teachers! Such wusses. My neighbor has lupus and is working hard 20 hours a day, licking doorknobs in a pork processing plant.
-Teachers not returning to school will continue working and keeping close contact with students remotely from home as recommended by the government No, they won’t. They will get paid to do nothing. Lazy AF. Replace them with my unemployed brother in law. He’s only stoned in the evening and that girl said she was 20.
-Activities completed while in school will not be evaluated or graded complete DCUM meltdown unfit to print even here, but entailing Larla’s chances are HYPS being completely ruined
-No physical materials will be transported back and forth between home and school But Larla needs her wubby.
-Students must include a mini garbage and recycling bag with their lunch in which to collect their personal garbage to dispose of at home I don’t want that in my car. Why can’t you just put a red medical waste disposal unit in every classroom?
-All students must bring in their personal, labelled, and filled water bottle as water fountains won’t be available
-Sharing of ALL items (pencils, pens, sharpeners, wax crayons, rulers, toys) is not permitted Thank Goodness! I spent $2978.11 on bespoke school supplies last August and the teacher mixed them in with supplies from Target.
-When weather permits, recess breaks will be held outdoors & will entail of walking outside safely distanced from one another in a pre-arranged pattern Why can’t Larla chose her own pattern? You are stifling her creative expression.
-Gatherings (groups of students together) will not be permitted Even at lunch? You monsters.
-Limited travel within the school by all throughout the day But Larla needs to go visit Mrs. C because she’s the only adult that truly understands her.
-Bathrooms visits will be monitored/escorted so that proper disinfection by outside caretakers can follow before another student uses the facilities Larla can’t go if an adult is outside the door.
-As per government recommendations, masks and gloves will not be provided. Students are certainly welcome to bring these items from home. They are invited to carry their personal disinfecting wipes with them if they wish My taxes pay for those already. Teachers should buy them with all of those Target gift cards they got during TAW.
-Lockers will no longer be used. Students will place their spring/summer jackets behind their chair they will be using and their schoolbag under their assigned chair Larla won’t be comfortable with that.
-There will be no cafeteria service or home & school pizza and frozen yogurt days Why even bother to come to school, then?
-There will be no physical activity taking place in the gym, no art classes (although art and craft projects can be promoted as home suggestions), no library periods, and no drama classes Such a repressive atmosphere.
-No fundraisers or after school activities will take place How will I maintain my place in the mom pecking order?
-Parent volunteers will not be permitted in schools But how can I monitor and judge the staff and other students.
-We recommend your child brings a book or two of interest from home to read We’ll send an iPad.
-Student with fever or flu like symptoms will be returned home I won’t be there. I gained the COVID 15 (ounces) and will be at the gym.

It sounds pretty draconian, especially the part about staying in their assigned seat for the entire day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would keep both of my ES kids home. Different teachers, different classmates, staying in their seat for the entire day including lunch? Not worth it.

So I assume you would homeschool them. Otherwise you’re breaking the law.

Attendance is anticipated to be between 20-30% in Quebec. If it's higher, schools will have to reconsider the plan and change it.

I’m referring to the poster—presumably in the USA—who said he/she wouldn’t send his/her kids in those conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot see this happening in my school. I would want to know what can be done about students who refuse to follow these rules (because our school will have quite a few of them).

Consider the possibility that those students you believe won't cooperate will have changed their attitude/behavior by the time school opens. Everyone, young and old, has had to make adjustments and children are far more adaptable than adults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would keep both of my ES kids home. Different teachers, different classmates, staying in their seat for the entire day including lunch? Not worth it.

So I assume you would homeschool them. Otherwise you’re breaking the law.

Attendance is anticipated to be between 20-30% in Quebec. If it's higher, schools will have to reconsider the plan and change it.

I’m referring to the poster—presumably in the USA—who said he/she wouldn’t send his/her kids in those conditions.

I am that PP and yes, I'm in the DMV. Lots of rules have been changed. Mandatory attendance will also change, when our kids go back to school.

[Anonymous]

As someone who is fairly close to what is going on in Quebec - the rules listed and much of what is happening is political.

The school boards are adamantly against re-opening. They do not feel they can provide a decent education safely. They have been overruled and told they don't have any say. They have been told that if they put enough conditions and changes in place then it is safe.

So they are making a lot of rules to demonstrate their frustration at being forced to open against their own beliefs about what it right. These lists are intended to send a message to government.