Quebec is sending kids back to school-here are the conditions

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Anonymous wrote:I would keep both of my ES kids home. Different teachers, different classmates, staying in their seat for the entire day including lunch? Not worth it.

So I assume you would homeschool them. Otherwise you’re breaking the law.

Attendance is anticipated to be between 20-30% in Quebec. If it's higher, schools will have to reconsider the plan and change it.

I’m referring to the poster—presumably in the USA—who said he/she wouldn’t send his/her kids in those conditions.

I am that PP and yes, I'm in the DMV. Lots of rules have been changed. Mandatory attendance will also change, when our kids go back to school.

You honestly think the state will lift the legal requirement that kids go to school?!

You’re delusional. You know there would be pushback when they try to reinstate it, resulting in a huge fight over making education compulsory.

[Anonymous]

I assumed that the fact that they are going back was a sign that they were doing well, but their numbers are like ours, with almost 300 deaths per million.

I have friends who teach in Australia who are worried about schools going back, and their numbers are less than 2% of ours. That seems reasonable to me. But this seems crazy.

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The wouldn’t do this in America so stop freaking our people

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Anonymous wrote:I assumed that the fact that they are going back was a sign that they were doing well, but their numbers are like ours, with almost 300 deaths per million.

I have friends who teach in Australia who are worried about schools going back, and their numbers are less than 2% of ours. That seems reasonable to me. But this seems crazy.

The province wants to do a trial run now rather than wait until September to see what is possible to put in place so they have a better sense of what to do in September. Quebec marches to its own beat. The school boards are not on board.

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Anonymous wrote:I would keep both of my ES kids home. Different teachers, different classmates, staying in their seat for the entire day including lunch? Not worth it.

So I assume you would homeschool them. Otherwise you’re breaking the law.

Attendance is anticipated to be between 20-30% in Quebec. If it's higher, schools will have to reconsider the plan and change it.

I’m referring to the poster—presumably in the USA—who said he/she wouldn’t send his/her kids in those conditions.

I am that PP and yes, I'm in the DMV. Lots of rules have been changed. Mandatory attendance will also change, when our kids go back to school.

You honestly think the state will lift the legal requirement that kids go to school?!

You’re delusional. You know there would be pushback when they try to reinstate it, resulting in a huge fight over making education compulsory.

They can temporarily suspend it. The way states have temporarily suspended other requirements. I saw that one state gave teen drivers their licenses without a road test!
DP

[Anonymous]

That list makes distance learning look like heaven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The wouldn’t do this in America so stop freaking our people

Um, as someone with a teacher spouse, some of these things have been floated for how school will go if in-person classes are held in the fall.

I'm talking about no PE, art, music, library where they leave the classroom. Those teachers would come to the classrooms and do modified instruction.

Recess would be alternated on which classrooms get to go outside and which have indoor recess. When outside, kids can only play within their class. No more playing with friends from all other classes. All equipment would be off-limits.

No school assemblies, no field trips, no plays, fall/winter/spring musical/choral concerts.

Bathrooms will have a bathroom monitor who must clean after each use.

Masks must be worn. Lunch will be eaten in the classroom. Temperature checks before entering the school.

They are even toying with the idea of no backpacks. They will do grocery type bags for each kid that can be disposed of when they get home and vice versa.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot see this happening in my school. I would want to know what can be done about students who refuse to follow these rules (because our school will have quite a few of them).

Consider the possibility that those students you believe won't cooperate will have changed their attitude/behavior by the time school opens. Everyone, young and old, has had to make adjustments and children are far more adaptable than adults.

They act this way for attention that they don't get at home. Their home lives are chaotic and they aren't used to following rules. Their behavior shows this. Just by watching child/parent interactions online, many of our kids aren't getting positive attention at home. I hate online teaching because I don't want to see into these homes. There is chaos, lack of respect, abuse, neglect, etc.

[Anonymous]

Gotta love the part about how no physical materials will go between school and home, immediately followed by the admonition to bring a bag to take lunch trash home and to carry an entertainment book back and forth.

And they plan to have a custodian scrub down the bathroom after every individual use? No way!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The wouldn’t do this in America so stop freaking our people

Um, as someone with a teacher spouse, some of these things have been floated for how school will go if in-person classes are held in the fall.

I'm talking about no PE, art, music, library where they leave the classroom. Those teachers would come to the classrooms and do modified instruction.

Recess would be alternated on which classrooms get to go outside and which have indoor recess. When outside, kids can only play within their class. No more playing with friends from all other classes. All equipment would be off-limits.

No school assemblies, no field trips, no plays, fall/winter/spring musical/choral concerts.

Bathrooms will have a bathroom monitor who must clean after each use.

Masks must be worn. Lunch will be eaten in the classroom. Temperature checks before entering the school.

They are even toying with the idea of no backpacks. They will do grocery type bags for each kid that can be disposed of when they get home and vice versa.

Wonderful! All of those ideas sound completely reasonable.

[Anonymous]

Yeah. If this is what it looks like, I think DH and I would keep our child home, pending our availability to also coordinate our WFH schedules (which is likely).

We will have a 6th grader, and we just this morning talked about how if school is, say, 2 days per week in Fall in person we'd like to hire a tutor to work with our child 1-1 (or perhaps with 1-2 other kids). This can be remotely or in person in our home, depending on the severity of restrictions and how things are going and comfort levels. Our child is capable and smart, but we want better for him than managing his own Zoom learning all day for a year.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like it’s daycare for those who need it, not school. I would keep my kids home.

[Anonymous]

I'm just across the border in Ontario (a border we can not currently cross, despite the fact that Ottawa and Gatineau are basically one city). Quebec has the highest rates in the country (mainly in Montreal, which has pushed back starting schools until later in the month).

No one I know is sending their kid back, but they are all federal government employees who are able to keep working from home. It's definitely a political move, and there has been a lot of pushback. I'm on the Ottawa side, and I won't be sending my kids back til the fall if they re open (school goes until the end of June here, an so far our schools are closed until the end of May).

[Anonymous]

How on earth do you keep young kids in their seats the entire day? I’m all for being cautious but some of these measures just seem a bit nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:This is nuts and too restrictive. I’m all or nothing. Either send the kids back just like before covid or don’t

I'm not all or nothing, I will send my kids to school with some (or lots) of changes. But these measures are too much for me.

Same here. I expect that there will be some changes, but I'm not sending my kid to school so she can sit in the same chair for six or seven hours, and get in trouble because she can't do it. If they can't figure out recess, it will be a disaster. Also, no drinking fountains? So a kid forgets or loses their water bottle, and they don't get to drink anything all day? Nope. Also, having kids carry trash home is a recipe for a big mess. Just have them put it in the classroom trash, and empty that frequently. It's not like the virus flies off of your garbage into the air.

Also, the schools need to provide lots of hand washing, hand sanitizer, and disinfecting wipes for desks, door handles, light switches, and other high-touch areas. You can't find a lot of stuff in the stores, so it's unreasonable to put it on families to supply those things.