Are there any Charter schools in Montgomery county?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nope, no Charter Schools in MCPS unfortunately. Parents have no choice for their kids.

Sure they do -- magnets, or move elsewhere in MoCo.

I don't want MoCo to be like the DC model, where more than half of kids are in charter schools. It's basically DCPS saying that they are so incompetent at providing education that they need to outsource it to charter schools.

Such a privileged comment. Do you really think it's easy for lower and middle class families to up and move? We are at a Focus school, and would move in a heartbeat if we could. Just not possible for everyone. That's not a 'choice'. Montgomery County is expensive.

Magnets? Four MS Magnets is a choice? Something like less than 500 students have that option. That's not a choice. That's a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

I wish.

More competition that doesn’t cost $40k/year would be a good kick in the pants to MCPS. Although I doubt it would start serving those students well or to potential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

I wish.

More competition that doesn’t cost $40k/year would be a good kick in the pants to MCPS. Although I doubt it would start serving those students well or to potential.

+1

MCPS knows middle class and lower SES families have no choice, and so they really don't care what goes on. You can tell by the (lack of) leadership. People in charge earn their salaries, whether there is a curriculum or not. People in Central Office take home their paychecks, no matter how many kids are victims of sex abuse. People in admin get their paychecks, even if their staff is miserable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

I wish.

More competition that doesn’t cost $40k/year would be a good kick in the pants to MCPS. Although I doubt it would start serving those students well or to potential.

+1

MCPS knows middle class and lower SES families have no choice, and so they really don't care what goes on. You can tell by the (lack of) leadership. People in charge earn their salaries, whether there is a curriculum or not. People in Central Office take home their paychecks, no matter how many kids are victims of sex abuse. People in admin get their paychecks, even if their staff is miserable.

Good summary.

[Anonymous]

I wish we had more options in non-religious privates that were $15-20K. We'd go in a heartbeat. MCPS did have a charter and it had many issues and was shut down - Community Crossways in Kensington. Thank goodness we turned down a spot there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

I wish.

More competition that doesn’t cost $40k/year would be a good kick in the pants to MCPS. Although I doubt it would start serving those students well or to potential.

+1

MCPS knows middle class and lower SES families have no choice, and so they really don't care what goes on. You can tell by the (lack of) leadership. People in charge earn their salaries, whether there is a curriculum or not. People in Central Office take home their paychecks, no matter how many kids are victims of sex abuse. People in admin get their paychecks, even if their staff is miserable.

Low income and lower middle income can get financial aid so they may have more choices than solid middle to upper middle that make enough to live comfortably but not enough to pay more than $10-15 a year for 1-2 kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish we had more options in non-religious privates that were $15-20K. We'd go in a heartbeat. MCPS did have a charter and it had many issues and was shut down - Community Crossways in Kensington. Thank goodness we turned down a spot there.

This is us too. We’re not Christian and not Jewish. Not many non-religious options left. And certainly not for less than $20K. We feel pretty stuck with MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

I wish.

More competition that doesn’t cost $40k/year would be a good kick in the pants to MCPS. Although I doubt it would start serving those students well or to potential.

To be clear, I mean meant that I doubt more competition and school choice would result in mCPS teaching smart kids to potential again.

Mcps showed its true colors with 15 years of its “racial achievement gap” goals and putting in place its failed Curriculum 2.0 in 2012 in efforts of getting more AA and Hispanics to test better. Instead they failed ever segment of student plus got even more uneducated family kids who continue to not pass proficiency bars in any grade levelS

Mcps is prime target for charter schools. Write Hogan this weekend. I even know some good sites for the charter schools. And no, they won’t all be in Wheaton or silver spring a la mcps-style to spike average test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

I wish.

More competition that doesn’t cost $40k/year would be a good kick in the pants to MCPS. Although I doubt it would start serving those students well or to potential.

To be clear, I mean meant that I doubt more competition and school choice would result in mCPS teaching smart kids to potential again.

Mcps showed its true colors with 15 years of its “racial achievement gap” goals and putting in place its failed Curriculum 2.0 in 2012 in efforts of getting more AA and Hispanics to test better. Instead they failed ever segment of student plus got even more uneducated family kids who continue to not pass proficiency bars in any grade levelS

Mcps is prime target for charter schools. Write Hogan this weekend. I even know some good sites for the charter schools. And no, they won’t all be in Wheaton or silver spring a la mcps-style to spike average test scores.

Without transportation, charters are not very accessible to lower income families. They will take $$ away from the public schools and leave those who attend in a worse place. They can not have selective admissions policies so don't think you are going to get a gifted magnet charter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

This is a discussion that everyone should be having. It’s past time here. Trump and DeVos would help fund it too- regardless of your political party.

Mcps has been following the downward spiral that Los Angeles public schools took.
Used to be a strong school district and everyone went public. Then they went all sanctuary city and student and school performance slipped year after year. Educated families no longer consider LA schools an option so went private or Long Beach Poly only.
Massive school district then doubled down in bed with the teachers union and ESOL coddling, but results sunk and sunk.
Taxpayers rallied for fed/state funded charter schools and got it - smaller class sizes, transparent curriculum, well-rounded subject schedule, no hamstringing the PTA, etc. Union kept doubling down for more pay, more everything, more admin, more pension, etc. Sure they now complain that all the literate hard-working kids went to charter schools, but their education product sucks.
What educated, skilled, literate family would put their kid there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

I wish.

More competition that doesn’t cost $40k/year would be a good kick in the pants to MCPS. Although I doubt it would start serving those students well or to potential.

To be clear, I mean meant that I doubt more competition and school choice would result in mCPS teaching smart kids to potential again.

Mcps showed its true colors with 15 years of its “racial achievement gap” goals and putting in place its failed Curriculum 2.0 in 2012 in efforts of getting more AA and Hispanics to test better. Instead they failed ever segment of student plus got even more uneducated family kids who continue to not pass proficiency bars in any grade levelS

Mcps is prime target for charter schools. Write Hogan this weekend. I even know some good sites for the charter schools. And no, they won’t all be in Wheaton or silver spring a la mcps-style to spike average test scores.

Without transportation, charters are not very accessible to lower income families. They will take $$ away from the public schools and leave those who attend in a worse place. They can not have selective admissions policies so don't think you are going to get a gifted magnet charter.

Better than what we have now: mcps watering down everything and playing games with grading, funding, curriculum, taxpayer money, class size, standardized test changes, etc. trying to pass and graduate poorly performing “students“. These “graduates” then show up at MOCo community college and are required to take Hs-level remedial English and math. Go mcps!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

To be clear, I mean meant that I doubt more competition and school choice would result in mCPS teaching smart kids to potential again.

Mcps showed its true colors with 15 years of its “racial achievement gap” goals and putting in place its failed Curriculum 2.0 in 2012 in efforts of getting more AA and Hispanics to test better. Instead they failed ever segment of student plus got even more uneducated family kids who continue to not pass proficiency bars in any grade levelS

Mcps is prime target for charter schools. Write Hogan this weekend. I even know some good sites for the charter schools. And no, they won’t all be in Wheaton or silver spring a la mcps-style to spike average test scores.

To the extent that charter schools work, it's as a result of excluding students with greater needs. That might be good for children with lesser needs, in the short run, but it's bad for everybody -- including children with lesser needs -- in the long run.

No public money for non-public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

I wish.

More competition that doesn’t cost $40k/year would be a good kick in the pants to MCPS. Although I doubt it would start serving those students well or to potential.

To be clear, I mean meant that I doubt more competition and school choice would result in mCPS teaching smart kids to potential again.

Mcps showed its true colors with 15 years of its “racial achievement gap” goals and putting in place its failed Curriculum 2.0 in 2012 in efforts of getting more AA and Hispanics to test better. Instead they failed ever segment of student plus got even more uneducated family kids who continue to not pass proficiency bars in any grade levelS

Mcps is prime target for charter schools. Write Hogan this weekend. I even know some good sites for the charter schools. And no, they won’t all be in Wheaton or silver spring a la mcps-style to spike average test scores.

Without transportation, charters are not very accessible to lower income families. They will take $$ away from the public schools and leave those who attend in a worse place. They can not have selective admissions policies so don't think you are going to get a gifted magnet charter.

Better than what we have now: mcps watering down everything and playing games with grading, funding, curriculum, taxpayer money, class size, standardized test changes, etc. trying to pass and graduate poorly performing “students“. These “graduates” then show up at MOCo community college and are required to take Hs-level remedial English and math. Go mcps!

Much better to have more drop outs who would never think of taking a college class... Yes I am sure there are kids you describe and there are plenty kids who go to Harvard. It is a diverse county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the semi-private school a possible solution for GT education? I don't seem much discussion here. Also overheard that it is hard to get the approval from MCPS.

This is a discussion that everyone should be having. It’s past time here. Trump and DeVos would help fund it too- regardless of your political party.

Mcps has been following the downward spiral that Los Angeles public schools took.
Used to be a strong school district and everyone went public. Then they went all sanctuary city and student and school performance slipped year after year. Educated families no longer consider LA schools an option so went private or Long Beach Poly only.
Massive school district then doubled down in bed with the teachers union and ESOL coddling, but results sunk and sunk.
Taxpayers rallied for fed/state funded charter schools and got it - smaller class sizes, transparent curriculum, well-rounded subject schedule, no hamstringing the PTA, etc. Union kept doubling down for more pay, more everything, more admin, more pension, etc. Sure they now complain that all the literate hard-working kids went to charter schools, but their education product sucks.
What educated, skilled, literate family would put their kid there?

I'm sorry, were you trying to make the case that charter schools are a non-partisan, non-political issue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope, no Charter Schools in MCPS unfortunately. Parents have no choice for their kids.

Sure they do -- magnets, or move elsewhere in MoCo.

I don't want MoCo to be like the DC model, where more than half of kids are in charter schools. It's basically DCPS saying that they are so incompetent at providing education that they need to outsource it to charter schools.

Such a privileged comment. Do you really think it's easy for lower and middle class families to up and move? We are at a Focus school, and would move in a heartbeat if we could. Just not possible for everyone. That's not a 'choice'. Montgomery County is expensive.

Magnets? Four MS Magnets is a choice? Something like less than 500 students have that option. That's not a choice. That's a joke.

Charter school proponents always talk a good game about the needs of low income kids and kids of color, but the actual data from the past twenty years of charter experiments demonstrates that, in practice, low income kids and kids of color consistently fare worse in charters, and overall in districts that have adopted charter schools.