Are there any Charter schools in Montgomery county?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I don't have direct experience with DC schools, but you seem to be arguing that it's better to keep kids in incompetent schools than to admit they're incompetent and offer a better alternative.

But they're not.

Your antecedent is unclear. Are you saying that DC schools aren't incompetent or that charters aren't better.

My limited understanding is that when DC started charters, the DC public schools had a terrible reputation and were widely regarded as incompetent. Am I wrong that they had severe problems at that time, or is it possible that the charter movement by providing competition and trying out different models of education has had a positive effect on the public schools?

If you're saying that charters aren't better, my understanding is that there is a wide variety of quality in charters. Admittedly, some have been awful, but I think some are better than the public schools. On DCUM, I've read people talking positively about different charters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't have direct experience with DC schools, but you seem to be arguing that it's better to keep kids in incompetent schools than to admit they're incompetent and offer a better alternative.

But they're not.

Your antecedent is unclear. Are you saying that DC schools aren't incompetent or that charters aren't better.

My limited understanding is that when DC started charters, the DC public schools had a terrible reputation and were widely regarded as incompetent. Am I wrong that they had severe problems at that time, or is it possible that the charter movement by providing competition and trying out different models of education has had a positive effect on the public schools?

If you're saying that charters aren't better, my understanding is that there is a wide variety of quality in charters. Admittedly, some have been awful, but I think some are better than the public schools. On DCUM, I've read people talking positively about different charters.

Charter schools aren't better.

Are some charter schools better than some public schools? Yes. Are all charter schools better than all public schools? The purported big success in charter schools, New Orleans, got the results it did because the student body after Hurricane Katrina was different than the student body before. What's more, the "good" charter schools engaged in discriminatory student selection, and students had to travel great distances to get to school (which would be completely unacceptable in MCPS, or so I keep reading on DCUM).

[Anonymous]

The other issue is that DCPS charters are often struggling to find appropriate buildings to house their schools, often using churches or other retrofitted buildings. Moco especially DCC doesn't have a lot of available space to build schools

[Anonymous]

Just move to Virginia. They are not playing the Commin Core teach to the test game and their mantra is not the elusive Make everyone score the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't have direct experience with DC schools, but you seem to be arguing that it's better to keep kids in incompetent schools than to admit they're incompetent and offer a better alternative.

But they're not.

Your antecedent is unclear. Are you saying that DC schools aren't incompetent or that charters aren't better.

My limited understanding is that when DC started charters, the DC public schools had a terrible reputation and were widely regarded as incompetent. Am I wrong that they had severe problems at that time, or is it possible that the charter movement by providing competition and trying out different models of education has had a positive effect on the public schools?

If you're saying that charters aren't better, my understanding is that there is a wide variety of quality in charters. Admittedly, some have been awful, but I think some are better than the public schools. On DCUM, I've read people talking positively about different charters.

You are partially correct. When the charter movement in DC started, there were a handful of neighborhood schools that were fine. They were good, in fact. But other neighborhood schools were awful. The neighborhood schools that used to be good are still good. The neighborhood schools that used to be terrible are now even worse. The difference is a whole third option that is mostly catering to UMC white families with young children, who have the resources to work the lottery and to drive all over the city.

In the meantime, this has diverted resources from neighborhood schools, and has been worse for a lot of kids, particularly those whose families don't have the ability to try to lottery into a charter, or whose housing instability meant they weren't on the right list at the right time for PK3, when a lot of those spots are taken.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't have direct experience with DC schools, but you seem to be arguing that it's better to keep kids in incompetent schools than to admit they're incompetent and offer a better alternative.

But they're not.

Your antecedent is unclear. Are you saying that DC schools aren't incompetent or that charters aren't better.

My limited understanding is that when DC started charters, the DC public schools had a terrible reputation and were widely regarded as incompetent. Am I wrong that they had severe problems at that time, or is it possible that the charter movement by providing competition and trying out different models of education has had a positive effect on the public schools?

If you're saying that charters aren't better, my understanding is that there is a wide variety of quality in charters. Admittedly, some have been awful, but I think some are better than the public schools. On DCUM, I've read people talking positively about different charters.

You are partially correct. When the charter movement in DC started, there were a handful of neighborhood schools that were fine. They were good, in fact. But other neighborhood schools were awful. The neighborhood schools that used to be good are still good. The neighborhood schools that used to be terrible are now even worse. The difference is a whole third option that is mostly catering to UMC white families with young children, who have the resources to work the lottery and to drive all over the city.

In the meantime, this has diverted resources from neighborhood schools, and has been worse for a lot of kids, particularly those whose families don't have the ability to try to lottery into a charter, or whose housing instability meant they weren't on the right list at the right time for PK3, when a lot of those spots are taken.

The charter school movement was forced on DC by extreme right-wing partisans in Congress. It wasn't something the city chose. It's both good and bad in a place like DC but would likely just be a huge downside in MC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/education/k-12/bs-md-hogan-charter-schools-20190123-story.html

"Gov. Larry Hogan announces plan to boost charter schools in Maryland"

Good. Then MCPS can be wholly dedicated to closing the achievement gap.

[Anonymous]

New international family: What’s the achievement gap?

Who has a say in what a child achieves in school??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New international family: What’s the achievement gap?

Who has a say in what a child achieves in school??

It's the difference in test scores and other measures of educational attainment between children with more advantages and children with fewer advantages. And since nobody lives in Year Zero, the distribution of advantages among subpopulations is unequal, for historical reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New international family: What’s the achievement gap?

Who has a say in what a child achieves in school??

It's the difference in test scores and other measures of educational attainment between children with more advantages and children with fewer advantages. And since nobody lives in Year Zero, the distribution of advantages among subpopulations is unequal, for historical reasons.

What advantages? We're from Ukraine, do we have any advantages? Or what would we achieve in test scores. I do not understand. Year Zero?

[Anonymous]

Nevermind, I have internet searched it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achievement_gap_in_the_United_States

It is the difference in test scores or grades between students from different races, gender or family income and it exists in all countries.

I don't recall it being an issue back home.