Hogan's Trump Apologist Interview in the NY Times

[Anonymous]

The mandatory school calendar idea is very un-Republican, when the Republican party has traditionally been about local control. Let each county determine its educational needs and plan accordingly.

It's not just about starting after Labor Day, remember. It's also about not being allowed to go too far into June. He and Franchot are extending summer break to benefit business, not children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The mandatory school calendar idea is very un-Republican, when the Republican party has traditionally been about local control. Let each county determine its educational needs and plan accordingly.

It's not just about starting after Labor Day, remember. It's also about not being allowed to go too far into June. He and Franchot are extending summer break to benefit business, not children.

+1. Hogan is a hypocrite. Local control is best for Republicans unless it can be used to sell out school kids for business interests.

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Anonymous wrote:He's the only Republican I voted for in the last election where he was on the ballot. MD was getting out of control with taxing and spending. He has pushed forward on getting a rein in on that, and also furthering transpotation priorities and slowly making MD pro-business.

I don't see MD becoming more pro-business. He didn't lift a finger when Discovery left Silver Spring. The only people I see him trying to help is his voter base in Ocean City, with his ridiculous Labor Day to June 15 policy which means that Maryland schools don't have a spring break week this year.

That's the school's fault partially. They can just move their days off for teacher service days if they want to keep those breaks. The benefit of starting school after Labor Day is it's a big benefit to Ocean City and the MD taxpayer (tax revenue), for no additional taxpayer cost.

Sure big benefit to ocean city with no additional cost if you don’t count the learning outcomes for our children. I am not voting for Hogan either. He has been bad on education issues.

1 week later start is going to have a drastic effect on learning outcomes?

It's not one week - Montgomery County as planning to have the school year start earlier than it had in previous years, so it's a net difference of 2-3 weeks. And yes, the longer the break, the greater effect on outcomes.

Regardless, I am almost as annoyed at the mandatory holidays on Easter Monday (seriously?) and Election Day (surely there are other facilities besides schools that can accommodate elections). Not to mention the Board or educations refusal to explore any options so Bethesda, etc. don't have to take a day off when there's ice in Poolesville.

At the end of the day, though, I think Jealous could potentially be far worse for Montgomery County education than mandatory post-Labor day starts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hogan lied in that interview. I called his office and talked about the impact of the Muslim ban on my household as a Maryland constituent and his staff dismissed me. I’m sure many other Marylands called as well so for him to say that it didn’t affect Marylanders is a lie. Also, some may remember that he was sued for removing comments asking him to speak out on the Muslim ban from his public Facebook page (ie suppressing free speech) and lost the lawsuit and was told he had to allow a diversity of viewpoints on his website. But if you want to ignore his stance on social issues and call him “practically a Democrat”, you’ve got some serious cognitive dissonance going on.

+1 Hogan lost my vote when he refused to speak out against Trump on the Muslim ban. The Republican Governor in Massachusetts did speak out. A lot of Republican Congresspeople spoke out against bigotry too. But not Hogan. Marylanders who are frustrated with Trump policies need to look in their own backyards about the messages being sent by their elected officials.

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Anonymous wrote:He's the only Republican I voted for in the last election where he was on the ballot. MD was getting out of control with taxing and spending. He has pushed forward on getting a rein in on that, and also furthering transpotation priorities and slowly making MD pro-business.

I don't see MD becoming more pro-business. He didn't lift a finger when Discovery left Silver Spring. The only people I see him trying to help is his voter base in Ocean City, with his ridiculous Labor Day to June 15 policy which means that Maryland schools don't have a spring break week this year.

That's the school's fault partially. They can just move their days off for teacher service days if they want to keep those breaks. The benefit of starting school after Labor Day is it's a big benefit to Ocean City and the MD taxpayer (tax revenue), for no additional taxpayer cost.

Sure big benefit to ocean city with no additional cost if you don’t count the learning outcomes for our children. I am not voting for Hogan either. He has been bad on education issues.

I'm still waiting for the study that says summer learning loss is fine for 9 weeks, but that 10th week is the killer.
Or fine for 10 weeks, but that 11th week is the killer.

Since it sounds like you have that information, please share it.

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Anonymous wrote:He's the only Republican I voted for in the last election where he was on the ballot. MD was getting out of control with taxing and spending. He has pushed forward on getting a rein in on that, and also furthering transpotation priorities and slowly making MD pro-business.

I don't see MD becoming more pro-business. He didn't lift a finger when Discovery left Silver Spring. The only people I see him trying to help is his voter base in Ocean City, with his ridiculous Labor Day to June 15 policy which means that Maryland schools don't have a spring break week this year.

That's the school's fault partially. They can just move their days off for teacher service days if they want to keep those breaks. The benefit of starting school after Labor Day is it's a big benefit to Ocean City and the MD taxpayer (tax revenue), for no additional taxpayer cost.

Sure big benefit to ocean city with no additional cost if you don’t count the learning outcomes for our children. I am not voting for Hogan either. He has been bad on education issues.

1 week later start is going to have a drastic effect on learning outcomes?

So it’s ok to sacrifice kids’ learning outcomes for the sake of putting extra $ in the pocket of few Hogan friendly voters? By the way, I’ve never seen evidence that this extra week out of school for Marylanders has an impact on Ocean City revenues, have you?

Tell you what, you give me the studies that show an additional week off for summer has a greater affect on learning outcomes than the previous weeks off, and I'll dig up the Ocean City tax revenues for you.

Here's the thing. I've looked for studies that indicate the former. Never found them. And yet, I have looked for and found studies that indicate longer vacation seasons improve tax revenues, so it's reasonable to assume we'd see similar for OC.

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Anonymous wrote:He's the only Republican I voted for in the last election where he was on the ballot. MD was getting out of control with taxing and spending. He has pushed forward on getting a rein in on that, and also furthering transpotation priorities and slowly making MD pro-business.

I don't see MD becoming more pro-business. He didn't lift a finger when Discovery left Silver Spring. The only people I see him trying to help is his voter base in Ocean City, with his ridiculous Labor Day to June 15 policy which means that Maryland schools don't have a spring break week this year.

That's the school's fault partially. They can just move their days off for teacher service days if they want to keep those breaks. The benefit of starting school after Labor Day is it's a big benefit to Ocean City and the MD taxpayer (tax revenue), for no additional taxpayer cost.

Sure big benefit to ocean city with no additional cost if you don’t count the learning outcomes for our children. I am not voting for Hogan either. He has been bad on education issues.

I'm still waiting for the study that says summer learning loss is fine for 9 weeks, but that 10th week is the killer.
Or fine for 10 weeks, but that 11th week is the killer.

Since it sounds like you have that information, please share it.

Summer slide, i.e. the loss in learning due to lengthy periods of time out of school is widely documented. Here's an article from Brookings. Google lists 529,000,000 other hits for summer slide, so you can education yourself. I'm still waiting for the evidence that having an extra week of having Maryland school children stay out of school is a big economic boon to Ocean City. Do you have that data?

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Anonymous wrote:He's the only Republican I voted for in the last election where he was on the ballot. MD was getting out of control with taxing and spending. He has pushed forward on getting a rein in on that, and also furthering transpotation priorities and slowly making MD pro-business.

I don't see MD becoming more pro-business. He didn't lift a finger when Discovery left Silver Spring. The only people I see him trying to help is his voter base in Ocean City, with his ridiculous Labor Day to June 15 policy which means that Maryland schools don't have a spring break week this year.

That's the school's fault partially. They can just move their days off for teacher service days if they want to keep those breaks. The benefit of starting school after Labor Day is it's a big benefit to Ocean City and the MD taxpayer (tax revenue), for no additional taxpayer cost.

Sure big benefit to ocean city with no additional cost if you don’t count the learning outcomes for our children. I am not voting for Hogan either. He has been bad on education issues.

I'm still waiting for the study that says summer learning loss is fine for 9 weeks, but that 10th week is the killer.
Or fine for 10 weeks, but that 11th week is the killer.

Since it sounds like you have that information, please share it.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/summer-learning-loss-what-is-it-and-what-can-we-do-about-it/
Summer slide, i.e. the loss in learning due to lengthy periods of time out of school is widely documented. Here's an article from Brookings. Google lists 529,000,000 other hits for summer slide, so you can education yourself. I'm still waiting for the evidence that having an extra week of having Maryland school children stay out of school is a big economic boon to Ocean City. Do you have that data?

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Anonymous wrote:He's the only Republican I voted for in the last election where he was on the ballot. MD was getting out of control with taxing and spending. He has pushed forward on getting a rein in on that, and also furthering transpotation priorities and slowly making MD pro-business.

I don't see MD becoming more pro-business. He didn't lift a finger when Discovery left Silver Spring. The only people I see him trying to help is his voter base in Ocean City, with his ridiculous Labor Day to June 15 policy which means that Maryland schools don't have a spring break week this year.

That's the school's fault partially. They can just move their days off for teacher service days if they want to keep those breaks. The benefit of starting school after Labor Day is it's a big benefit to Ocean City and the MD taxpayer (tax revenue), for no additional taxpayer cost.

Sure big benefit to ocean city with no additional cost if you don’t count the learning outcomes for our children. I am not voting for Hogan either. He has been bad on education issues.

I'm still waiting for the study that says summer learning loss is fine for 9 weeks, but that 10th week is the killer.
Or fine for 10 weeks, but that 11th week is the killer.

Since it sounds like you have that information, please share it.

Summer slide, i.e. the loss in learning due to lengthy periods of time out of school is widely documented. Here's an article from Brookings. Google lists 529,000,000 other hits for summer slide, so you can education yourself. I'm still waiting for the evidence that having an extra week of having Maryland school children stay out of school is a big economic boon to Ocean City. Do you have that data?

Yes. Which week does the slide start? I bet it’s 2 or 3 not 9 or 10.

[Anonymous]

Done with you, Larry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's the only Republican I voted for in the last election where he was on the ballot. MD was getting out of control with taxing and spending. He has pushed forward on getting a rein in on that, and also furthering transpotation priorities and slowly making MD pro-business.

I don't see MD becoming more pro-business. He didn't lift a finger when Discovery left Silver Spring. The only people I see him trying to help is his voter base in Ocean City, with his ridiculous Labor Day to June 15 policy which means that Maryland schools don't have a spring break week this year.

That's the school's fault partially. They can just move their days off for teacher service days if they want to keep those breaks. The benefit of starting school after Labor Day is it's a big benefit to Ocean City and the MD taxpayer (tax revenue), for no additional taxpayer cost.

Sure big benefit to ocean city with no additional cost if you don’t count the learning outcomes for our children. I am not voting for Hogan either. He has been bad on education issues.

I'm still waiting for the study that says summer learning loss is fine for 9 weeks, but that 10th week is the killer.
Or fine for 10 weeks, but that 11th week is the killer.

Since it sounds like you have that information, please share it.

Summer slide, i.e. the loss in learning due to lengthy periods of time out of school is widely documented. Here's an article from Brookings. Google lists 529,000,000 other hits for summer slide, so you can education yourself. I'm still waiting for the evidence that having an extra week of having Maryland school children stay out of school is a big economic boon to Ocean City. Do you have that data?

Yes. Which week does the slide start? I bet it’s 2 or 3 not 9 or 10.

Where do you see studies stating that? The Brookings study cited above notes that summer slide increases with the number of weeks away from the classroom. To say you refuse to believe anything unless there’s a specific trial testing the increase from 10 to 11 weeks seems like willfull blindness. So where’s that data on the Ocean City boom and how do you rationalize prioritizing the economic well being of a tiny group of Republican voters over educational outcomes?

[Anonymous]

Wasn’t one of the reasons for extending the school year start into September (when it historically was the case) because a lot of schools don’t have air conditioning?

Anyway, a week here or a week there isn’t a big deal to me and is rather arbitrary. Nonetheless, I’m sensible enough to know that the people complaining about Hogan were never going to vote for him anyway and the arguments put forward against him aren’t convincing enough to persuade me not to vote for him. There’s definitely a few crockpots (at least one) on here who aren’t helping at all.

[Anonymous]

i’m a democrat and I’ll be voting for him for the first time because I’m not a fan of Jealous’s platform. The starting school after Labor Day is a minor detwil

[Anonymous]

Based on that sole interview, I would say the interviewee is perfectly sane! Those are some pretty biased questions.

But no, I would not vote for Hogan since I do not approve of his local policies, particularly educational ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t one of the reasons for extending the school year start into September (when it historically was the case) because a lot of schools don’t have air conditioning?

Anyway, a week here or a week there isn’t a big deal to me and is rather arbitrary. Nonetheless, I’m sensible enough to know that the people complaining about Hogan were never going to vote for him anyway and the arguments put forward against him aren’t convincing enough to persuade me not to vote for him. There’s definitely a few crockpots (at least one) on here who aren’t helping at all.

Crockpots?