What college will make you be disappointed ?

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Anonymous wrote:I bet she felt like you had inside knowledge of how to get her kid into the same type of school since your kid got in and is a freshman there now (if I read that correctly). Even though you had nothing to do with the decision process, she feels like you let them down.

It's crazy but that's what I'm understanding from this.

Well, I opened everything, I told her everything what I knew. One think I concerned is Her DD was very strong at science and math, wanted to apply pre med program. Her DD applied science major. She (my friend) told me her dd would apply science major. I said " She is very strong at science ,I think it is a good idea".
Shouldn't I mention this ? I am so frustrated. Should I wait until her feeling comes down?

You apply to HYP overall, not to a science major. You don't apply to a premed program either. It sounds like neither you nor your friend really understand the admissions process (or you are a troll), but luckily your children did.

No, today you apply directly into the sciences. My DD applied as an aerospace engineer for Princeton. The admssions office sends the applications over to engineering for a final run-through because they know the field. DD was accepted directly into three aerospace engineering programs. Liberal arts, maybe not so much, but colleges really do want to see a thought out career goal and major. I'm not saying that's the right way to do this. I went a a college where you didn't even have to declare a major until junior year, but it is was the elite colleges want to see. Also SAT II tests with high scores in certain science and math tests if you want to major in that field. See Virginia Tech for example - you apply directly into the engineering school. Some are admitted to Va Tech but not to the engineering school, which makes scheduling tough because they can't get into engineering 101 until the second year.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet she felt like you had inside knowledge of how to get her kid into the same type of school since your kid got in and is a freshman there now (if I read that correctly). Even though you had nothing to do with the decision process, she feels like you let them down.

It's crazy but that's what I'm understanding from this.

Well, I opened everything, I told her everything what I knew. One think I concerned is Her DD was very strong at science and math, wanted to apply pre med program. Her DD applied science major. She (my friend) told me her dd would apply science major. I said " She is very strong at science ,I think it is a good idea".
Shouldn't I mention this ? I am so frustrated. Should I wait until her feeling comes down?

You apply to HYP overall, not to a science major. You don't apply to a premed program either. It sounds like neither you nor your friend really understand the admissions process (or you are a troll), but luckily your children did.

I am not a troll at all. My DD applied science major but not interested in pre-med . Her daughter applied math major but her goal is a MD. I do agree my DD got in them luckily.
I saw so many qualified kids were rejected. I and my other friend can't tell our DD were accepted as of right. I do think that was my dd's luck.
As I wrote above, my dd was one year older than her daughter. When my dd did something, she always asked me and I told her everything I knew. --how my dd did, where my dd did, etc.
She ( my friend) may think if she followed me , she would get the same result. (This is my guessing). My dd was the first kid who got in the US colleges through US high schools in my friends group.
Their eldest kids are at most HS seniors.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet she felt like you had inside knowledge of how to get her kid into the same type of school since your kid got in and is a freshman there now (if I read that correctly). Even though you had nothing to do with the decision process, she feels like you let them down.

It's crazy but that's what I'm understanding from this.

Well, I opened everything, I told her everything what I knew. One think I concerned is Her DD was very strong at science and math, wanted to apply pre med program. Her DD applied science major. She (my friend) told me her dd would apply science major. I said " She is very strong at science ,I think it is a good idea".
Shouldn't I mention this ? I am so frustrated. Should I wait until her feeling comes down?

You apply to HYP overall, not to a science major. You don't apply to a premed program either. It sounds like neither you nor your friend really understand the admissions process (or you are a troll), but luckily your children did.

One more thing, I know students are under undeclared major status until sophomore in hyps, however most of the student choose the major when they apply. They can change the major whatever they want. Students who choose undecided major are less than 5% of the incoming freshmen anyway.

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Let your friend be, op. You have nothing to apologize for. She will either get over it in time, which would be great. If she doesn't, it's her problem. She is envious and there is nothing you can do about that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet she felt like you had inside knowledge of how to get her kid into the same type of school since your kid got in and is a freshman there now (if I read that correctly). Even though you had nothing to do with the decision process, she feels like you let them down.

It's crazy but that's what I'm understanding from this.

Well, I opened everything, I told her everything what I knew. One think I concerned is Her DD was very strong at science and math, wanted to apply pre med program. Her DD applied science major. She (my friend) told me her dd would apply science major. I said " She is very strong at science ,I think it is a good idea".
Shouldn't I mention this ? I am so frustrated. Should I wait until her feeling comes down?

You apply to HYP overall, not to a science major. You don't apply to a premed program either. It sounds like neither you nor your friend really understand the admissions process (or you are a troll), but luckily your children did.

No, today you apply directly into the sciences. My DD applied as an aerospace engineer for Princeton. The admssions office sends the applications over to engineering for a final run-through because they know the field. DD was accepted directly into three aerospace engineering programs. Liberal arts, maybe not so much, but colleges really do want to see a thought out career goal and major. I'm not saying that's the right way to do this. I went a a college where you didn't even have to declare a major until junior year, but it is was the elite colleges want to see. Also SAT II tests with high scores in certain science and math tests if you want to major in that field. See Virginia Tech for example - you apply directly into the engineering school. Some are admitted to Va Tech but not to the engineering school, which makes scheduling tough because they can't get into engineering 101 until the second year.

You may need to start the coursework right away in order to meet the requirements but at the schools OP is talking about you do NOT apply to a specific school or major.

Here is the info for Harvard's engineering school: "All prospective undergraduate students apply and are admitted to Harvard College. Students do not need to declare their intended concentration until the sophomore year."

here is Yale's: "As for admission to engineering at Yale, application to Yale is made only through the Office of Undergraduate Admissions." and "All applicants submit the same materials and are evaluated through the same processes regardless of their intended major."

here is Princeton's: "Students apply to Princeton University, not to individual departments, programs or schools. Once enrolled, students may pursue either the Bachelor of Arts (A.B.) or the Bachelor of Science in Engineering (B.S.E.). "

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Anonymous wrote:Let your friend be, op. You have nothing to apologize for. She will either get over it in time, which would be great. If she doesn't, it's her problem. She is envious and there is nothing you can do about that.

+1 She seems to have a very misguided idea of elite college admissions and nothing you say would have made any difference. Once students are in the pool of having the very high qualifications to be considered for top schools (of which UPenn is one) then selection is really essentially a lottery. For any student to get in there is a huge amount of luck. Other than giving an extremely large donation to the school, there is no inside knowledge that makes it not a luck-based outcome.

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Could you post this again in coherent English?

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Anonymous wrote:Could you post this again in coherent English?

Gosh PP - How well would you do in a non-native language?

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Really, some of the people who use this website are painfully rude, inconsiderate and parochial (i.e. we live in a wonderfully diverse part of the country, which attracts residents from all over the globe...that is an advantage not a disability).

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I would not be disappointed as long as there was a plan. Community college to save money and take classes and then transfer? Great. So so school that had a lot of other benefits? Great. HYP because that's where he wants to go? Great.

I graduated from one of the top high schools in the country. I saw what happens to kids whose parents are over the top and it's often not pretty. I'm thankful my parents were not like that and I vowed not to be either.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you post this again in coherent English?

Gosh PP - How well would you do in a non-native language?

Depends which one.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this subject looks weird. However I am wondering.
I have 2 best friends whose DD are HS seniors now. As you know, all college admission results came out. One of my friends got satisfied results the other didn't. I understand her feeling so I deeply feel sorry ,too . She blamed everything including me ( the reason is I should advised her to apply less competitive major in HYPS, But I am not her consultant nor her advisor. I am a just one of her best friend.) I thought she was shocked with results so I tried to understand her feeling.
But it passes almost a month. She is still in the same mode. She disconnected me and other friends too.
At this point, I am asking to DC moms. If your DD is a very competitive student in competitive private high school, What colleges will you be satisfied?
Her DD is going to UPenn. Do you guys think it is too low to be satisfied ? I don't think so.
All students can't go to HYPS, but I guess she thinks her daughter has to go to HYPS as of right. Yes, Mine and the other friend's DD admitted HYPS . ( mine is a freshman now)
But If I were her, I absolutely would be satisfied with UPenn too. Does her reaction come out because of my DD and other friend's DD's results? What do you think?
Frankly speaking, I can't understand her. I think her reaction is too much.

You are not a native English speaker? Or are you just completely insane?
Could you share your idea?

I am not a native English speaker. I am so serious. We have had a good relationship more than 10 years but it breaks after the results came out.
Her daughter is a very competitive student. But no one can guarantee the results. So I understand her feeling in the beginning. However times goes, it becomes worse.
Yesterday, I found her blocked me from her contact list too.
I feel it is too much.

Your friend is certifiably nuts. This will be a good learning experience for both your friend and her daughter. There will always be people who are smarter and more competitive than your friend, her daughter, you and your daughter. She got her just desserts for having such a snotty attitude. Most people I know would be very happy with Penn.

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Anonymous wrote:Could you post this again in coherent English?

Gosh PP - How well would you do in a non-native language?

+1. OP's dilemma is completely understandable despite being a non-native speaker.

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UPenn admission is a great achievement
Don't apologize, as you are NOT in control of admissions, but if you can, send the student your congratulations direct

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My sibling went to MIT but my immigrant mother had never heard of it and didn’t want her to go. Luckily my dad made it clear it was a pretty good school.