JO Wilson vs. Ludlow-Taylor

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lordy, lordy, lordy. Here we go again with the people who used to live on the Hill or who live in Eastern Market chiming in on matters about which they do not know. The real estate around JO is in the same zip code as LT (20002) so there is no way to do a quick search and determine real estate cost. But for anyone who looks at these things the "south of H" logic was BS several years ago. And since JO is closer to the impending Whole Foods, Union Market and the Edens project, and since it is closer to the metro (a fact that drives real estate values across the city) it turns out the cost per square foot is actually higher near JO. But don't let facts get in the way of your BS 10 year old impressions.

And to the OP, without a doubt LT is ahead of JO. Probably by 3-4 years. But the key is that LT is fundamentally different in about 3rd grade and JO in PK3 or PK4, so it all depends on where your kid is or will be. Oh, and they both feed into the same MS; the only MS besides Deal that has any promise. Unfortunately Brent has no MS options (many kids go to charters in 4th or 5th).


How many people in LT will continue on to 5th grade and not bail to charters?


Kids will continue when they competition for charter/OOB spots gets too tight. A lot like what's happening at the elementary level right now, where OOB kids can't get into the best elementaries or charters, and are stuck going IB.
Anonymous
I like how JO WIlson added a SEM program this year. I think it shows that they recognize that they need to beef up their game.
Anonymous
J.O. principal is super duper impressive. She blew us away at the info sessions this past year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:J.O. principal is super duper impressive. She blew us away at the info sessions this past year.


So is your kid at JO right now?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:J.O. principal is super duper impressive. She blew us away at the info sessions this past year.


So is your kid at JO right now?


No. Husband is native Spanish speaker so bilingual Spanish was prioritized above all else for our family. (Besides, inexplicably JO teaches French!) But we toured close to a dozen schools and the JO principal was by far the most impressive (including the school my kid is at). I will not name names but some of the administrators of at some very highly regarded schools seems in over their heads.

P.S. If you don't have foreign language speaking spouses and in-laws then save your indignation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the OP - thanks for the suggestions. I will look into Brent as well. Are rental costs similar in the neighborhoods servicing Brent as that servicing LT? Is Brent considerably better than LT and if so/not what factors differentiate Brent from LT?


Brent discussions are almost always contentious and bring out the long knives. Some Brent pros:

Tight knit community - the school is majority in-bound with many families having multiple siblings
A number of teachers live in the 'hood and have children who attend Brent
Active PTA which provides a lot of extras, including classroom aides (teacher partners)
Solid academics with most teachers rated as highly-effective
No emphasis on standardized test prep or test results from student perspectives
Comparatively small class sizes
No culture of bullying
School emphasizes getting to know students as individuals
Awesome science teacher who offers pullout math classes for advanced learners
Terrific librarian who engages students
Academically-oriented field trip program
Robust performing arts program
New Spanish language program, with Mandarin offered as after school elective
Wide variety of high-quality after school electives and clubs
Uses Columbia Univ. Writers and Readers Workshop
Follows Responsive Classroom

Brent students have a good track record in terms of academic performance at schools such as Basis, Latin and Hardy.

I have nothing bad to say about LT as I have no first-hand experiences. I am aware however that a number of families living in the LT zone send their kids to Brent.
Anonymous
Forgot to add that Brent and Ludlow are a little over a mile apart, with Brent in SE and Ludlow in NE. Plenty of threads discussing both schools can be found, along with helpful info and misinfo. Please take the time to tour both schools and talk with teachers and parents.

BTW, us Brent folks will be getting our own Trader Noes and nearby Whole Foods in 2017 and we're within walking distance of the National Mall, Smithsonian Museums, Nationals Park, Yards Park and the Canal Park Skating Rink. Brent is two blocks from the Capitol South Metro (OR, BL, Sv) and close to some great family-friendly restaurants.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Forgot to add that Brent and Ludlow are a little over a mile apart, with Brent in SE and Ludlow in NE. Plenty of threads discussing both schools can be found, along with helpful info and misinfo. Please take the time to tour both schools and talk with teachers and parents.

BTW, us [b]Brent folks will be getting our own Trader Noes and nearby Whole Foods in 2017 and we're within walking distance of the National Mall, Smithsonian Museums, Nationals Park, Yards Park and the Canal Park Skating Rink. Brent is two blocks from the Capitol South Metro (OR, BL, Sv) and close to some great family-friendly restaurants.



Wow. I had no idea that TJ and WF were being built exclusively for the Brent crowd!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Forgot to add that Brent and Ludlow are a little over a mile apart, with Brent in SE and Ludlow in NE. Plenty of threads discussing both schools can be found, along with helpful info and misinfo. Please take the time to tour both schools and talk with teachers and parents.

BTW, us [b]Brent folks will be getting our own Trader Noes and nearby Whole Foods in 2017 and we're within walking distance of the National Mall, Smithsonian Museums, Nationals Park, Yards Park and the Canal Park Skating Rink. Brent is two blocks from the Capitol South Metro (OR, BL, Sv) and close to some great family-friendly restaurants.



Wow. I had no idea that TJ and WF were being built exclusively for the Brent crowd!


Yes, it's true. You might be able to shop at either OOB for a little while, but with the number of sibs in the Brent district, I wouldn't count on it for long.
Anonymous
Brent is a school full of rich white kids yet the scores are mediocre. There is also no middle school path. I would not listen to anyone that tells you to rely on Basis/Latin as those schools will be hard to get into by the time your LO reaches middle. For the same price or cheaper, you can move in Deal feeder. If you insist, I would pick LT for the diversity and better scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Forgot to add that Brent and Ludlow are a little over a mile apart, with Brent in SE and Ludlow in NE. Plenty of threads discussing both schools can be found, along with helpful info and misinfo. Please take the time to tour both schools and talk with teachers and parents.

BTW, us [b]Brent folks will be getting our own Trader Noes and nearby Whole Foods in 2017 and we're within walking distance of the National Mall, Smithsonian Museums, Nationals Park, Yards Park and the Canal Park Skating Rink. Brent is two blocks from the Capitol South Metro (OR, BL, Sv) and close to some great family-friendly restaurants.



Wow. I had no idea that TJ and WF were being built exclusively for the Brent crowd!


Yes, it's true. You might be able to shop at either OOB for a little while, but with the number of sibs in the Brent district, I wouldn't count on it for long.


The Brent PTA has actually started a petition to stop WF and TJ from taking WIC. They want to eliminate FARMS kids at the start.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Forgot to add that Brent and Ludlow are a little over a mile apart, with Brent in SE and Ludlow in NE. Plenty of threads discussing both schools can be found, along with helpful info and misinfo. Please take the time to tour both schools and talk with teachers and parents.

BTW, us [b]Brent folks will be getting our own Trader Noes and nearby Whole Foods in 2017 and we're within walking distance of the National Mall, Smithsonian Museums, Nationals Park, Yards Park and the Canal Park Skating Rink. Brent is two blocks from the Capitol South Metro (OR, BL, Sv) and close to some great family-friendly restaurants.



Wow. I had no idea that TJ and WF were being built exclusively for the Brent crowd!


Yes, it's true. You might be able to shop at either OOB for a little while, but with the number of sibs in the Brent district, I wouldn't count on it for long.


The Brent PTA has actually started a petition to stop WF and TJ from taking WIC. They want to eliminate FARMS kids at the start.


The system used wotp works well for this

Gloverpark WF: For the JKLM wannabe's
Tenleytown WF: For those pesky OOB that keep showing up
Friendship Heights WF: For the inbound, since you always need some extra shopping bling to keep up with the other moms

....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Brent is a school full of rich white kids yet the scores are mediocre. There is also no middle school path. I would not listen to anyone that tells you to rely on Basis/Latin as those schools will be hard to get into by the time your LO reaches middle. For the same price or cheaper, you can move in Deal feeder. If you insist, I would pick LT for the diversity and better scores.


Greater "diversity" at LT than Brent? If you mean more low-income AA kids proportionately, yes, of course. If you mean more socioeconomic, international and racial diversity, absolutely not.

My kid's class at Brent has four or five AA kids, several kids of Asian descent (one of whom speaks beautiful Chinese), a Latina (who speaks Spanish at home), and several European kids (who speak European languages at home; their parents work for international organizations with DC HQs, e.g. the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund). In LT for ECE, we didn't see that sort of diversity, far from it.

Who cares about the silly test scores? In-boundary parents vote with their feet: Brent is more than half in-boundary, while LT is around 20%.

LT doesn't really have a MS path either, unless you're OK with Stuart Hobson (with a student body that's less than 10% high SES/white in a catchment area that's at least two-third high SES/white in 2015).



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Forgot to add that Brent and Ludlow are a little over a mile apart, with Brent in SE and Ludlow in NE. Plenty of threads discussing both schools can be found, along with helpful info and misinfo. Please take the time to tour both schools and talk with teachers and parents.

BTW, us [b]Brent folks will be getting our own Trader Noes and nearby Whole Foods in 2017 and we're within walking distance of the National Mall, Smithsonian Museums, Nationals Park, Yards Park and the Canal Park Skating Rink. Brent is two blocks from the Capitol South Metro (OR, BL, Sv) and close to some great family-friendly restaurants.



Wow. I had no idea that TJ and WF were being built exclusively for the Brent crowd!


Yes, it's true. You might be able to shop at either OOB for a little while, but with the number of sibs in the Brent district, I wouldn't count on it for long.


The Brent PTA has actually started a petition to stop WF and TJ from taking WIC. They want to eliminate FARMS kids at the start.


The system used wotp works well for this

Gloverpark WF: For the JKLM wannabe's
Tenleytown WF: For those pesky OOB that keep showing up
Friendship Heights WF: For the inbound, since you always need some extra shopping bling to keep up with the other moms

....


do Tyler and Watkins get proximity preference to TJ? They are both closer to the Hine site than Brent
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Forgot to add that Brent and Ludlow are a little over a mile apart, with Brent in SE and Ludlow in NE. Plenty of threads discussing both schools can be found, along with helpful info and misinfo. Please take the time to tour both schools and talk with teachers and parents.

BTW, us [b]Brent folks will be getting our own Trader Noes and nearby Whole Foods in 2017 and we're within walking distance of the National Mall, Smithsonian Museums, Nationals Park, Yards Park and the Canal Park Skating Rink. Brent is two blocks from the Capitol South Metro (OR, BL, Sv) and close to some great family-friendly restaurants.



Wow. I had no idea that TJ and WF were being built exclusively for the Brent crowd!


Yes, it's true. You might be able to shop at either OOB for a little while, but with the number of sibs in the Brent district, I wouldn't count on it for long.


The Brent PTA has actually started a petition to stop WF and TJ from taking WIC. They want to eliminate FARMS kids at the start.


I guess the poor little nanny's or babysitters cant shop before they head home.
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