JO Wilson vs. Ludlow-Taylor

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What is DCUM going to do when test scores become a black box for the next couple years as a result of the switch to PARCC? Let the chaos begin.

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Anonymous wrote:I find the casual suggestion that people consider SWS or charters for K interesting. It's almost as if the lottery and limited number of seats aren't a factor.

IKR, I know people who are 0 for 3 (as in years) getting admitted into some of the charters suggested in this thread. OP if you're going to buy (or rent for that matter), make sure you are IB for a solid school.

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Anonymous wrote:Lordy, lordy, lordy. Here we go again with the people who used to live on the Hill or who live in Eastern Market chiming in on matters about which they do not know. The real estate around JO is in the same zip code as LT (20002) so there is no way to do a quick search and determine real estate cost. But for anyone who looks at these things the "south of H" logic was BS several years ago. And since JO is closer to the impending Whole Foods, Union Market and the Edens project, and since it is closer to the metro (a fact that drives real estate values across the city) it turns out the cost per square foot is actually higher near JO. But don't let facts get in the way of your BS 10 year old impressions.

And to the OP, without a doubt LT is ahead of JO. Probably by 3-4 years. But the key is that LT is fundamentally different in about 3rd grade and JO in PK3 or PK4, so it all depends on where your kid is or will be. Oh, and they both feed into the same MS; the only MS besides Deal that has any promise. Unfortunately Brent has no MS options (many kids go to charters in 4th or 5th).

Give me a break. You're saying the RE values north of H (in the JO boundry) are higher than south of H in the LT/Maury Boundries? You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

JO is 7 blocks from the NY/Gallaudet metro, LT is 7 blocks from Union Station on the very same line, so that assertion make zero sense.

Check your sales prices between the two areas and you'll see on average that home south of H are selling for over $100k more on average. It will gradually get closer, but for now the South of H trope ain't BS -- ask any RE agent.

LT has better test scores, JO has a better playground and I hear everyone likes the principal. We'll see if this equates to higher test scores. Both are fine schools. Brent has been a high-quality ES longer than any other ES on the Hill, but now there are others that are nearly-as, or as-good.

That "North/South of H division was indeed true...5 or 10 years ago. People used to be willing to live all the away out by RFK just to stay South of H. That hasn't been true in years. I have no doubt that there are some old school agents near where you live who reinforce that mentality. "Old"school being the operative word. South of H on 5th vs North of H? Probably a s=difference. But North of H on 5th or or 6th or 7th versus over east of Maury? Not current data. Anyone who thinks that East of Maury is safer than the J neighborhood or can hold a candle in terms of amenities isn't paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lordy, lordy, lordy. Here we go again with the people who used to live on the Hill or who live in Eastern Market chiming in on matters about which they do not know. The real estate around JO is in the same zip code as LT (20002) so there is no way to do a quick search and determine real estate cost. But for anyone who looks at these things the "south of H" logic was BS several years ago. And since JO is closer to the impending Whole Foods, Union Market and the Edens project, and since it is closer to the metro (a fact that drives real estate values across the city) it turns out the cost per square foot is actually higher near JO. But don't let facts get in the way of your BS 10 year old impressions.

And to the OP, without a doubt LT is ahead of JO. Probably by 3-4 years. But the key is that LT is fundamentally different in about 3rd grade and JO in PK3 or PK4, so it all depends on where your kid is or will be. Oh, and they both feed into the same MS; the only MS besides Deal that has any promise. Unfortunately Brent has no MS options (many kids go to charters in 4th or 5th).

Give me a break. You're saying the RE values north of H (in the JO boundry) are higher than south of H in the LT/Maury Boundries? You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

JO is 7 blocks from the NY/Gallaudet metro, LT is 7 blocks from Union Station on the very same line, so that assertion make zero sense.

Check your sales prices between the two areas and you'll see on average that home south of H are selling for over $100k more on average. It will gradually get closer, but for now the South of H trope ain't BS -- ask any RE agent.

LT has better test scores, JO has a better playground and I hear everyone likes the principal. We'll see if this equates to higher test scores. Both are fine schools. Brent has been a high-quality ES longer than any other ES on the Hill, but now there are others that are nearly-as, or as-good.

That "North/South of H division was indeed true...5 or 10 years ago. People used to be willing to live all the away out by RFK just to stay South of H. That hasn't been true in years. I have no doubt that there are some old school agents near where you live who reinforce that mentality. "Old"school being the operative word. South of H on 5th vs North of H? Probably a s=difference. But North of H on 5th or or 6th or 7th versus over east of Maury? Not current data. Anyone who thinks that East of Maury is safer than the J neighborhood or can hold a candle in terms of amenities isn't paying attention.

How far "East" of Maury are we talking? Why would you settle a North/South of H discussion by bringing in a separate neighborhood (Rosedale)? North of H on 5th St vs. South of H on 5th St is what we're talking about. I'd add that North of H on 15th will have lower average prop values than South of H on 15th. Nothing "old school" about that. Look, I'll be the first to say that prop values in "NOMA" have gone way, way up and will continue to do so until they eventually are inseparable from the rest of the Hill area, but it isn't there (yet) when comparing comparable neighborhoods N or S of H St. That's all.

will have higher prop values than, say, Rosedale area, but the "amenities" are the same.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lordy, lordy, lordy. Here we go again with the people who used to live on the Hill or who live in Eastern Market chiming in on matters about which they do not know. The real estate around JO is in the same zip code as LT (20002) so there is no way to do a quick search and determine real estate cost. But for anyone who looks at these things the "south of H" logic was BS several years ago. And since JO is closer to the impending Whole Foods, Union Market and the Edens project, and since it is closer to the metro (a fact that drives real estate values across the city) it turns out the cost per square foot is actually higher near JO. But don't let facts get in the way of your BS 10 year old impressions.

And to the OP, without a doubt LT is ahead of JO. Probably by 3-4 years. But the key is that LT is fundamentally different in about 3rd grade and JO in PK3 or PK4, so it all depends on where your kid is or will be. Oh, and they both feed into the same MS; the only MS besides Deal that has any promise. Unfortunately Brent has no MS options (many kids go to charters in 4th or 5th).

Give me a break. You're saying the RE values north of H (in the JO boundry) are higher than south of H in the LT/Maury Boundries? You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

JO is 7 blocks from the NY/Gallaudet metro, LT is 7 blocks from Union Station on the very same line, so that assertion make zero sense.

Check your sales prices between the two areas and you'll see on average that home south of H are selling for over $100k more on average. It will gradually get closer, but for now the South of H trope ain't BS -- ask any RE agent.

LT has better test scores, JO has a better playground and I hear everyone likes the principal. We'll see if this equates to higher test scores. Both are fine schools. Brent has been a high-quality ES longer than any other ES on the Hill, but now there are others that are nearly-as, or as-good.

That "North/South of H division was indeed true...5 or 10 years ago. People used to be willing to live all the away out by RFK just to stay South of H. That hasn't been true in years. I have no doubt that there are some old school agents near where you live who reinforce that mentality. "Old"school being the operative word. South of H on 5th vs North of H? Probably a s=difference. But North of H on 5th or or 6th or 7th versus over east of Maury? Not current data. Anyone who thinks that East of Maury is safer than the J neighborhood or can hold a candle in terms of amenities isn't paying attention.

How far "East" of Maury are we talking? Why would you settle a North/South of H discussion by bringing in a separate neighborhood (Rosedale)? North of H on 5th St vs. South of H on 5th St is what we're talking about. I'd add that North of H on 15th will have lower average prop values than South of H on 15th. Nothing "old school" about that. Look, I'll be the first to say that prop values in "NOMA" have gone way, way up and will continue to do so until they eventually are inseparable from the rest of the Hill area, but it isn't there (yet) when comparing comparable neighborhoods N or S of H St. That's all.

will have higher prop values than, say, Rosedale area, but the "amenities" are the same.

If you think the amenities are the same then you don't leave your neighborhood much.