Staying at a relative's kosher house when you are not kosher (with small kids)

[Anonymous]

As PPs have said, it's unlikely she will allow milk at the table when meat is served. An alternative is to keep entirely to dairy and fish (which is not considered meat) to avoid violating kosher laws.

My mother was raised kosher although we did not keep kosher when I was a kid. My mother could not bring herself to serve milk with dinner. Instead we had Coke. Every night. I am still trying to lose that weight 30 years later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just ask her what she'd prefer. "Bobby usually drinks milk at meals and often has yogurt, should we plan on any adjustments when you are serving meat meals?"

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Call her in advance and ask her.

[Anonymous]

OP here. This is what I was afraid of. I am not remotely interested in taking away my child's milk cheese and yogurt in the interest of providing her with "culture." She's 4 and eats very little protein otherwise.

Sounds like I was right to push for a hotel.

[Anonymous]

Or, as other PPs have stated, you can talk to the aunt and ask if she is comfortable serving dairy and/or pareve meals while you're there. We barely eat any meat during the week, and we change our menu based on our guests' needs. Unless the aunt is inflexible, I'm sure she'd rather serve dairy/pareve meals and have you guys stay with her than have you guys at a hotel.

There's a ton of dairy/pareve food out there, and if you explain that milk and yogurt are the largest sources of protein for your DC, the aunt will probably adjust her meals for your DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is what I was afraid of. I am not remotely interested in taking away my child's milk cheese and yogurt in the interest of providing her with "culture." She's 4 and eats very little protein otherwise.

Sounds like I was right to push for a hotel.

You sound like a self centered person raising a self centered child.

It's good for kids to realize that other people do things differently than they do. Your child can eat his dinner (or not eat it, as he wishes) and have a glass of milk or a yogurt a few hours later. It's not that hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is what I was afraid of. I am not remotely interested in taking away my child's milk cheese and yogurt in the interest of providing her with "culture." She's 4 and eats very little protein otherwise.

Sounds like I was right to push for a hotel.

You sound like a self centered person raising a self centered child.

It's good for kids to realize that other people do things differently than they do. Your child can eat his dinner (or not eat it, as he wishes) and have a glass of milk or a yogurt a few hours later. It's not that hard.

Thanks, Mrs. McJudgerson. Its fine for her to learn other people do things differently than we do. Its not fine for her to eat almost nothing for 4 days. That sounds miserable for her and everyone else because a starving kid is unlikely to be very pleasant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is what I was afraid of. I am not remotely interested in taking away my child's milk cheese and yogurt in the interest of providing her with "culture." She's 4 and eats very little protein otherwise.

Sounds like I was right to push for a hotel.

But you're basing this all on assumptions...

[Anonymous]

Not having milk with a meal for one weekend doesn't mean they're going to starve.

Haven't you ever run out of milk or another favorite item at home and just said "sorry kid, mo milk today?". We have to say no to our kids sometimes. That's how life goes.

I usually don't judge posters entire personalities based on one post, but I think "selfish" is the nicest of the many words that will fit the bill here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is what I was afraid of. I am not remotely interested in taking away my child's milk cheese and yogurt in the interest of providing her with "culture." She's 4 and eats very little protein otherwise.

Sounds like I was right to push for a hotel.

But you're basing this all on assumptions...

From Op'S follow ups I think it's pretty clear what kind of person she is. Her DH must have a very interesting life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is what I was afraid of. I am not remotely interested in taking away my child's milk cheese and yogurt in the interest of providing her with "culture." She's 4 and eats very little protein otherwise.

Sounds like I was right to push for a hotel.

You sound like a self centered person raising a self centered child.

It's good for kids to realize that other people do things differently than they do. Your child can eat his dinner (or not eat it, as he wishes) and have a glass of milk or a yogurt a few hours later. It's not that hard.

Thanks, Mrs. McJudgerson. Its fine for her to learn other people do things differently than we do. Its not fine for her to eat almost nothing for 4 days. That sounds miserable for her and everyone else because a starving kid is unlikely to be very pleasant.

Why would she eat almost nothing. She can have a glass of milk before or after. She'll be eating 3 meals, and it's highly unlikely that they'll all contain milke. She can have snacks. The choices aren't "have milk at the table with dinner" and "eat nothing for 4 days".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not having milk with a meal for one weekend doesn't mean they're going to starve.

Haven't you ever run out of milk or another favorite item at home and just said "sorry kid, mo milk today?". We have to say no to our kids sometimes. That's how life goes.

I usually don't judge posters entire personalities based on one post, but I think "selfish" is the nicest of the many words that will fit the bill here.

I don't think she's selfish, I think she's dumb. Any person with a brain would think to talk to the aunt first before throwing a hissy fit based on assumptions. So Op likely isn't very smart or cultured.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is what I was afraid of. I am not remotely interested in taking away my child's milk cheese and yogurt in the interest of providing her with "culture." She's 4 and eats very little protein otherwise.

Sounds like I was right to push for a hotel.

Didn't most of the posters say it could be worked out? Have you or your husband called yet to try to work it out? How on earth are you concluding that it sounds like you were right? Sounds like you were probably wrong, but you still need to check with your host.

[Anonymous]

No muscles in cream sauce with bacon for you!

[Anonymous]

OP, if the aunt is extremely strict and won't make any adjustments then maybe you need to rethink staying there, because you seem a bit high maintenance. However you need to speak with her first. Chances are that she will make adjustments so that your child will eat at mealtimes. There are snack times though when your child can get her dairy fix. She does not need to have a glass of milk with a meal.

For what it's worth, we are kosher and I have a child with food allergies. So I get where you're coming from sort of. But your child will die, become hospitalized or be permanently traumatized by a change in routine for a couple of days. Call the Aunt. That's the only way you can make a decision that will suit you.

[Anonymous]

I'd stay at a hotel if we could afford it and let the kid have their dairy at each meal. This is a four-year old who will already be adjusting to having his routine changed by the trip. You can stay at kosher aunt's house when the kid is older.