am I a sociopath?

Anonymous
Op here.

I often feel like if I could murder, I would. Not for fun, but because (like PP said) if someone deserved it....

Also, I do lie often. About random things, just to "embellish" a story for instance.
Anonymous
Suppose you killed somebody… http://ask.metafilter.com/7921/If-you-killed-somebody-how-would-you-dispose-of-the-body-without-getting-caught

How would you dispose of the body without getting caught? Would you dump it somewhere? Bury it in the backyard or basement? Dissolve it in lime? What? What would your master plan be that would allow you to get away with it?

And no, I haven't killed anybody and I'm not planning to - I was just curious.

posted by ashbury to human relations (74 answers total) [add to favorites] 315 users marked this as a favorite [!]

this guy:

First, be smart from the very beginning. Pulverize all teeth, burn off fingerprints, and disfigure the face. Forcing a DNA test to establish identity (if it ever comes to that) might introduce the legal/forensic hurdle that saves your ass down the line. An unidentifiable body can, in a pinch, be dressed in thrift store clothes and dropped in a bad part of town where the police are less likely to question it. I don't reommend that disposal method, I'm just saying an easily identifiable body is an even bigger threat than the opposite.

Assuming you have it inside a house where you can work on it a bit, the first thing you want to do is drain it of fluids. This will make it easier to cut up, and slow decomposition a little bit. The best way to do this quick and dirty is to perforate the body with a pointed knife, and then perform CPR on it. Cut the fronts of the thighs deep, diagonally, to slit the femoral arteries. Then pump the chest. The valves in the heart will still work when dead, and the springback of the ribcage can put apply a fair amount of suction to the artria. Do this in a tub. Plug the drain, and mingle lots of bleach with the bodily fluids before unplugging the drain to empty the tub. This should help control the stench of death, which would otherwise reek from your gutter gratings. Do everything you can to control odors. Plug in an ionizer, burn candles, leave bowls of baking soda everywhere. Ventilate the room in the middle of the night, but otherwise keep it closed. Keep the body under a plastic sheet while it's in the tub.

If you want to bury, I recommend seperating the body into several parts, and burying them seperately. For one thing, it's easier to dig a deep enough hole for a head than for an entire body. this reduces your chances of being discovered while you are actually outside and digging the grave.
That is the one thing you can't do inside the doors of your house, and represents a vulnerable moment you want to keep brief, under 2 hours. Do it between 3 and 5 am. It's also less likely for someone to call the police if their dog digs up some chunk of meat, than if they dig up an enitre body. They may assume it's an animal carcass disfigured by decomposition, and leave it alone or dispose of it. It's also more likely that the dog will consume all of it before anyone knows the difference. A whole skeleton is another story. You can cut a body into 6 pieces faster than you think. It's not much different than boning a chicken, but it takes more work, a big knife, and time. A hammer will be useful for pulverizing joints or driving the knife deep where it doesn't want to go. Anyway it's wise to crush as much of the skeleton as you can along the way. It will aid in making the body less identifiable for what it is as it decomposes.

Don't return to the same site 6 times for 6 burials.You'll attract suspicion from anyone nearby, and you'll wind up placing the body parts close enough together to be found by any serious investigation. Put them in plastic bags with lots of bleach, and store in a freezer until you have enough time to bury them all.

Depending on what tools you have available, you may find that you're get really good at deconstructing the body. You might prefer to slowly sprinkle it down a drain without leaving your house. This avoids the long-term risk of discovery associated with burial, and the overwhelming supply of bacteria in a sewer accellerates deconomposition, whil e providing a convenient cover smell.

Truly grinding down a body takes a lot more work, and you run the risk of fouling your plumbing and calling in a plumber. So don't try it unless you know how to clear bones and meat out of a drainpipe. A good food processor can be useful. But don't over-use it, or power drills or saws. They're noisy and they attract attention. And forget the kitchen sink. It's better if you actually remove one of the toilets in your house from its base, which will give you direct access to one of the largest sewer pipes that enters your house. Follow any disposals with lots of bleach and then run the water for 5 or 10 minutes on top of that. And plug that pipe when you're not using it, to prevent any sewer gasses from backing up into your house. Usually, a U-trap inside the toilet does that for you.


posted by scarabic at 9:27 PM on June 13, 2004 [916 favorites +] [!]
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, sometimes I feel the same way, but sociopath seems like too strong a word. I very rarely, maybe never feel guilt, but I am also a pretty honest person so maybe there is no reason to feel guilt. But, so many people feel guilt or responsiblity for things that are not their fault, for example, hitting someone with your car that pulled in front of you. I wouldn' feel badly about, it wasn't my fault, don't really undertand why others do and I see it as a sign of weakness. I can also be very charming and sometimes feel it is a game or challenge to get someone to like me when I really could care less about them. It isn't that I want to hurt their feelings, it is satisfying to get people to like the person I presented. I am an excellent liar, but don't lie for the fun of it. There are a very few people that mean something to me in my life (maybe 5, one being my child), anyone else could die and I would not be phased. More than likely I'd be annoyed that I have to go to a funeral (for like a neighbor or friend) or deal with the arrangments (like if it was my father). Odd thing though is, I am a nice person. I help old people put groceries in the car, would return money if given too much change, never park in a handicap spot. But I could kill someone that I thought deserved it, get away with it, and not feel any remorse. I feel like Dexter.


If you got distracted driving and hit a teenager with your car, would you feel bad?

If you forgot to feed your neighbor's dog one afternoon, would you feel bad?

If your DC's BFF was hysterical because his mom has cancer, would you feel bad?


being distracted would be my fault so probably would. If the teenager did anything to contribute, like walking down the middle of the road, it would justify me feeling less guilty about it.

Not feeding the dog? The dog can miss one meal. I'd have more issues with the fact that I neglected my duty, not so much what the duty was.

DC BFF? No, not that the mom has cancer, she isn't one of 5 or so people I care about. As far as dealing with the kid, on the fence about that. I don't do well with other people's emotions. They only make me aware of the fact that I don't know what to do.
Anonymous
WTH???!!! This is why I stopped coming to this site and am wondering why I'm back.....
Anonymous
Op here.

If I killed someone, I would freeze and chop up the body. After that I'd cut it up and burn it. Flush ashes.
Anonymous
It's not a question of just feeling bad. Sociopaths have literally no remorse for hurting others. The above linked post shows the Dexter-like detachment they have. Just really chilling. The post is from 2004 but I've always wondered who this guy was and if he ever did any of these horrible things.
Anonymous
Good grief. That post in red is like a step-by-step for a serial killer
Anonymous
Was Tony Soprano a sociopath? He and his fictional boys slid Pussy off that boat and into the ocean with the cinder blocks. Tony lies to Pussy's wife later--but seems to have remorse. I mean, he goes to therapy, after all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Was Tony Soprano a sociopath? He and his fictional boys slid Pussy off that boat and into the ocean with the cinder blocks. Tony lies to Pussy's wife later--but seems to have remorse. I mean, he goes to therapy, after all.


No. He struggled with the things he did. That's why he was always attempting to rationalize everything in black and white terms. He knew what he was doing was wrong, but tried to explain it away ("well, if I hadn't killed Chris, he would've killed his wife or daughter, or sent me to prison and destroyed my family")
Anonymous
Someone reported this thread. http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/0/358250.page#4604161 That is so annoying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was Tony Soprano a sociopath? He and his fictional boys slid Pussy off that boat and into the ocean with the cinder blocks. Tony lies to Pussy's wife later--but seems to have remorse. I mean, he goes to therapy, after all.


No. He struggled with the things he did. That's why he was always attempting to rationalize everything in black and white terms. He knew what he was doing was wrong, but tried to explain it away ("well, if I hadn't killed Chris, he would've killed his wife or daughter, or sent me to prison and destroyed my family")


I thought the end of the show made it pretty clear that all of the talk therapy had just helped Tony become a better criminal, and that he couldn't actually be helped mentally because he was a sociopath. There's a dinner party scene with Melfi, Peter Bogdanovich, and some other psychiatrists. A lot of that show is obviously open to interpretation, however. By the end, Dr. Melfi seemed more like his consigliere then his therapist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was Tony Soprano a sociopath? He and his fictional boys slid Pussy off that boat and into the ocean with the cinder blocks. Tony lies to Pussy's wife later--but seems to have remorse. I mean, he goes to therapy, after all.


No. He struggled with the things he did. That's why he was always attempting to rationalize everything in black and white terms. He knew what he was doing was wrong, but tried to explain it away ("well, if I hadn't killed Chris, he would've killed his wife or daughter, or sent me to prison and destroyed my family")


But maybe the fact that he could even think there is a rationalization for doing these things shows the disordered thinking that leads a person to do a mass shooting or become a serial killer.
Anonymous
I hope no one tries to frame me for murder now, because my computer searches will totally convict me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hope no one tries to frame me for murder now, because my computer searches will totally convict me.


Good idea, that might be better than all the trouble of disposing of a body, just pin it on you
Anonymous
I get the feeling that Jacques Pepin would know exactly what to do with a body.

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