Obama's illegal aunt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the dems are actually going to believe that he didn't know she was an illegal immigrant, then they're about as stupid and naive as the republicans.

I don't consider myself a "dem". I also don't give a rat's ass what the status is of Obama's aunt, any more than I care about McCain's brother in need of anger-management classes. It's amazing what peripheral facts will be dragged out as evidence in a campaign (that goes for both sides).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no way he couldn't have known. The background checks that have to have been done on him would have shown this long ago. I suppose this falls under his own "don't ask, don't tell" type policy. It does make me wonder what type of policy he will set for those who are here illgeally.

So again -- what is it you think he should have done about it, if he had known?

[Anonymous]

I hear that ACORN registered her to vote and that she's voting for Obama Tuesday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the dems are actually going to believe that he didn't know she was an illegal immigrant, then they're about as stupid and naive as the republicans.

Leave it to a Republican to expect someone to call out his/her own family member. I'm sure if a Republican candidate were in the same situation they would instantly have her deported and use it as an example of their hard core stance on immigration. Given this situation I would do the exact same thing as Obama. I'm not about to have a family member (no matter how far removed) or friend, or hell, even co-worker, deported for the purpose of forwarding my campaign. But at the same time, I'm not going to pull any strings to help either. Let the appropriate government agency do their job without his intervention one way or another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the dems are actually going to believe that he didn't know she was an illegal immigrant, then they're about as stupid and naive as the republicans.

I don't consider myself a "dem". I also don't give a rat's ass what the status is of Obama's aunt, any more than I care about McCain's brother in need of anger-management classes. It's amazing what peripheral facts will be dragged out as evidence in a campaign (that goes for both sides).

I am concerned about McCain's brother's behavior, that can be genetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no way he couldn't have known. The background checks that have to have been done on him would have shown this long ago. I suppose this falls under his own "don't ask, don't tell" type policy. It does make me wonder what type of policy he will set for those who are here illgeally.

So again -- what is it you think he should have done about it, if he had known?

He should have made sure she was here legally. This actually hurts any stance he may have on illegal immigration. At this point it seems as if his view would be to just ignore it, and the drain on the limited resources.

[Anonymous]

2:20 Poster Here.

Im neither a Dem or a Rep, So, Nice try at trying to figure that one out.

Im not saying he should've done a damn thing about her illegal status. Did I even once say that? No. I was saying that this whole "I didn't know she was here illegally" is a bunch of horsecrap. If he didn't know that, It doesn't make him look too on top of things. He obviously knew since his campaign is now wondering who "leaked" the information.
God forbid someone holds Obama up to the same standards as every other politician. When Politicians lie, People dont really care for it too much. He should tell the truth-That he knew.

[Anonymous]

OK, help me to understand what kind of relationship he has with her. I have a cousin living in this country that I just found out about, and I knew her very well as a child. Obama BARELY knew his father, so I can't imagine that he knew his father's half sister very well. Even after you find out that she is living in the US, as those of us from third world countries know, you might want to AVOID contact as much as possible since these folks can be needy. I have not yet contacted my cousin yet (I have 90 first cousins), but if I do, her immigration status will not be my first question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no way he couldn't have known. The background checks that have to have been done on him would have shown this long ago. I suppose this falls under his own "don't ask, don't tell" type policy. It does make me wonder what type of policy he will set for those who are here illgeally.

So again -- what is it you think he should have done about it, if he had known?

He should have made sure she was here legally. This actually hurts any stance he may have on illegal immigration. At this point it seems as if his view would be to just ignore it, and the drain on the limited resources.

But -- on finding out that she was not here legally -- what should he have then done? That's what I am asking you. He should have....done what?

"Made sure she was here legally" means what to you exactly?

1) He should have pulled some strings to get her request for asylum granted?

2) He should have forced her to leave by packing her up and putting her on a plane against her will to a country she was seeking asylum from?

3) He should have phoned the federal immigration authorities and said "Senator Obama from Illinois, here. I just want to be sure you are aware that of the 1 million immigrants who entered the country legally and lived here legally, but have now overstayed their visas, or were denied asylum, one of them is my late father's half-sister, and she is living at (the address). Please deport her."

4) He should have reported her anonymously to the authorities and hoped that they had the manpower to deport her, as they are doing with the other 1 million people in the same situation.

Which of these do you think he should have done, to make "sure she was in the country legally"? Or did you have another option?

Genuinely curious what you thought he should have done.

And would you think this should be done for ANY person, or just a relative, however distant. Do you think he (or you yourself) is obligated to report a NON-CRIMINAL violation of immigration law of ANY person, or just of someone you have a blood relationship to?

And does that relate to NON-CRIMINAL violations of EVERY law, or just of immigration law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Don't blame Obama for his aunt's choices. It's worse than blaming Palin for her daughter's choices.

Are you comparing getting pregnant to knowingly engaging in illegal activity? btw, just about everyone on this board DID blame Palin for her daughter's pregnancy.

Hey, Obama said the pregnancy was off-limits.

McCain's campaign manager said this thing about Obama's Aunt is off-limits.

Only you are making a thing of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no way he couldn't have known. The background checks that have to have been done on him would have shown this long ago. I suppose this falls under his own "don't ask, don't tell" type policy. It does make me wonder what type of policy he will set for those who are here illgeally.

So again -- what is it you think he should have done about it, if he had known?

He should have made sure she was here legally. This actually hurts any stance he may have on illegal immigration. At this point it seems as if his view would be to just ignore it, and the drain on the limited resources.

But -- on finding out that she was not here legally -- what should he have then done? That's what I am asking you. He should have....done what?

"Made sure she was here legally" means what to you exactly?

1) He should have pulled some strings to get her request for asylum granted?

2) He should have forced her to leave by packing her up and putting her on a plane against her will to a country she was seeking asylum from?

3) He should have phoned the federal immigration authorities and said "Senator Obama from Illinois, here. I just want to be sure you are aware that of the 1 million immigrants who entered the country legally and lived here legally, but have now overstayed their visas, or were denied asylum, one of them is my late father's half-sister, and she is living at (the address). Please deport her."

4) He should have reported her anonymously to the authorities and hoped that they had the manpower to deport her, as they are doing with the other 1 million people in the same situation.

Which of these do you think he should have done, to make "sure she was in the country legally"? Or did you have another option?

Genuinely curious what you thought he should have done.

And would you think this should be done for ANY person, or just a relative, however distant. Do you think he (or you yourself) is obligated to report a NON-CRIMINAL violation of immigration law of ANY person, or just of someone you have a blood relationship to?

And does that relate to NON-CRIMINAL violations of EVERY law, or just of immigration law?
I am not that PP, but , at the very least, what he should have done is offer her money to live on so that she is not on the government dole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I am not that PP, but , at the very least, what he should have done is offer her money to live on so that she is not on the government dole.

Well, that doesn't solve the problem that that other poster had, which was that the woman was living in the US illegally.

Offering her money to support her would only be assisting her in the (non-criminal) illegal activity. So I don't think he could have done that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:haha, now I guess his campaign will return the $265 to her.

That slays me

It makes you wonder how many other shady sources he accepted campaign $$ from.

Aren't his campaign folks suppose to check out the sources of the money before cashing checks? He should've played it clean and stuck with the public campaign financing like he said he would in the very beginning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:haha, now I guess his campaign will return the $265 to her.

That slays me

It makes you wonder how many other shady sources he accepted campaign $$ from.

Aren't his campaign folks suppose to check out the sources of the money before cashing checks? He should've played it clean and stuck with the public campaign financing like he said he would in the very beginning.

$265 sounds like a total of various smaller contributions. To have someone on staff to check the citizenship of everyone who gives a $50 or $25 contribution strikes me as absolutely unreasonable. But I suppose that if you're in the mood for nit-picking you grab whatever nit suits your wit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:haha, now I guess his campaign will return the $265 to her.

That slays me

It makes you wonder how many other shady sources he accepted campaign $$ from.

Aren't his campaign folks suppose to check out the sources of the money before cashing checks? He should've played it clean and stuck with the public campaign financing like he said he would in the very beginning.

$265 sounds like a total of various smaller contributions. To have someone on staff to check the citizenship of everyone who gives a $50 or $25 contribution strikes me as absolutely unreasonable. But I suppose that if you're in the mood for nit-picking you grab whatever nit suits your wit.

His illegal immigrant aunt lives in public housing in South Boston. Public housing should be for citizens. Have to draw the line somewhere.