Single mom travel overseas. Do I need a parental consent from dad?

[Anonymous]

Hello I am the OP. thanks for all the response. To answer some of the "concerns" about me sneaking off with my boy....rest assured that I am NOT! LOL! I just enjoy to travel and would love to share my passion with my child. Non concernig his father...it is no secret that our relationship is not the best but as I have explained earlier he is not over the fact that I left him. We applied together for a passport for our son (who is still an infant) and he knew of my traveling plans prior to this. my problem is with the fact that he wants to play games and think he can control me which I won't allow). We have no custody agreement, were never married (he did sign the birth certificate though). My son carries a different name from me (his dad's). At this point I will take your advices and contact the Italian Embassy and see what they say. Also to clarify my ex never told me I couldn't take Aaron with me to itay...he just doesn't want to help ... I think all of this made me realize it might be time to contact a lawyer and seek full custody (especially since my ex stopped visiting our son 4 months ago and move across the country....)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello I am the OP. thanks for all the response. To answer some of the "concerns" about me sneaking off with my boy....rest assured that I am NOT! LOL! I just enjoy to travel and would love to share my passion with my child. Non concernig his father...it is no secret that our relationship is not the best but as I have explained earlier he is not over the fact that I left him. We applied together for a passport for our son (who is still an infant) and he knew of my traveling plans prior to this. my problem is with the fact that he wants to play games and think he can control me which I won't allow). We have no custody agreement, were never married (he did sign the birth certificate though). My son carries a different name from me (his dad's). At this point I will take your advices and contact the Italian Embassy and see what they say. Also to clarify my ex never told me I couldn't take Aaron with me to itay...he just doesn't want to help ... I think all of this made me realize it might be time to contact a lawyer and seek full custody (especially since my ex stopped visiting our son 4 months ago and move across the country....)

you need therapy and a visit from CPS

[Anonymous]

you need therapy and a visit from CPS

WOW!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hello I am the OP. thanks for all the response. To answer some of the "concerns" about me sneaking off with my boy....rest assured that I am NOT! LOL! I just enjoy to travel and would love to share my passion with my child. Non concernig his father...it is no secret that our relationship is not the best but as I have explained earlier he is not over the fact that I left him. We applied together for a passport for our son (who is still an infant) and he knew of my traveling plans prior to this. my problem is with the fact that he wants to play games and think he can control me which I won't allow). We have no custody agreement, were never married (he did sign the birth certificate though). My son carries a different name from me (his dad's). At this point I will take your advices and contact the Italian Embassy and see what they say. Also to clarify my ex never told me I couldn't take Aaron with me to itay...he just doesn't want to help ... I think all of this made me realize it might be time to contact a lawyer and seek full custody (especially since my ex stopped visiting our son 4 months ago and move across the country....)

you need therapy and a visit from CPS

well...seems like the crazies are back....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello I am the OP. thanks for all the response. To answer some of the "concerns" about me sneaking off with my boy....rest assured that I am NOT! LOL! I just enjoy to travel and would love to share my passion with my child. Non concernig his father...it is no secret that our relationship is not the best but as I have explained earlier he is not over the fact that I left him. We applied together for a passport for our son (who is still an infant) and he knew of my traveling plans prior to this. my problem is with the fact that he wants to play games and think he can control me which I won't allow). We have no custody agreement, were never married (he did sign the birth certificate though). My son carries a different name from me (his dad's). At this point I will take your advices and contact the Italian Embassy and see what they say. Also to clarify my ex never told me I couldn't take Aaron with me to itay...he just doesn't want to help ... I think all of this made me realize it might be time to contact a lawyer and seek full custody (especially since my ex stopped visiting our son 4 months ago and move across the country....)

You cannot legally take your son out of the country without his father's consent. Realize that you may get rejected and fly back at your own expense. Italy, being a conservative country, will likely give you a hard time. they will want to know why you have different last names, why you weren't married to his father, and then probably ask for the note. If you were to go to Amsterdam they probably wouldn't care. FYI

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hello I am the OP. thanks for all the response. To answer some of the "concerns" about me sneaking off with my boy....rest assured that I am NOT! LOL! I just enjoy to travel and would love to share my passion with my child. Non concernig his father...it is no secret that our relationship is not the best but as I have explained earlier he is not over the fact that I left him. We applied together for a passport for our son (who is still an infant) and he knew of my traveling plans prior to this. my problem is with the fact that he wants to play games and think he can control me which I won't allow). We have no custody agreement, were never married (he did sign the birth certificate though). My son carries a different name from me (his dad's). At this point I will take your advices and contact the Italian Embassy and see what they say. Also to clarify my ex never told me I couldn't take Aaron with me to itay...he just doesn't want to help ... I think all of this made me realize it might be time to contact a lawyer and seek full custody (especially since my ex stopped visiting our son 4 months ago and move across the country....)

You cannot legally take your son out of the country without his father's consent. Realize that you may get rejected and fly back at your own expense. Italy, being a conservative country, will likely give you a hard time. they will want to know why you have different last names, why you weren't married to his father, and then probably ask for the note. If you were to go to Amsterdam they probably wouldn't care. FYI

His father never opposed to the journey...He just wants to be an jerk...I'm pretty sure I have made it clear through my previous posts that my ex is just trying to be difficult. He helped me get his passport about 4 months ago ( before he disappeared)for crying out loud! I made an appointment with my attorney and I'm taking this matter to the courts where it belongs. thank you to all those who helped me in making this decision.

[Anonymous]

Lady,

IF THAT IS YOUR KID'S REAL NAME THERE IS TOO MUCH IDENTIFYING INFORMATION IN YOUR POST

[Anonymous]

OP,

Does your divorce agreement, if you have one, have language about international travel?

It depends on the country. People have mentioned Canada. Mexico is strict, too. When you fly to Mexico, you must show the letter when you check in for the flight. When you cross the Canadian border by car, you must present documentation. I'm divorced, I always travel with a letter, just in case. The letter gives dates of travel, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hello I am the OP. thanks for all the response. To answer some of the "concerns" about me sneaking off with my boy....rest assured that I am NOT! LOL! I just enjoy to travel and would love to share my passion with my child. Non concernig his father...it is no secret that our relationship is not the best but as I have explained earlier he is not over the fact that I left him. We applied together for a passport for our son (who is still an infant) and he knew of my traveling plans prior to this. my problem is with the fact that he wants to play games and think he can control me which I won't allow). We have no custody agreement, were never married (he did sign the birth certificate though). My son carries a different name from me (his dad's). At this point I will take your advices and contact the Italian Embassy and see what they say. Also to clarify my ex never told me I couldn't take Aaron with me to itay...he just doesn't want to help ... I think all of this made me realize it might be time to contact a lawyer and seek full custody (especially since my ex stopped visiting our son 4 months ago and move across the country....)

You cannot legally take your son out of the country without his father's consent. Realize that you may get rejected and fly back at your own expense. Italy, being a conservative country, will likely give you a hard time. they will want to know why you have different last names, why you weren't married to his father, and then probably ask for the note. If you were to go to Amsterdam they probably wouldn't care. FYI

His father never opposed to the journey...He just wants to be an jerk...I'm pretty sure I have made it clear through my previous posts that my ex is just trying to be difficult. He helped me get his passport about 4 months ago ( before he disappeared)for crying out loud! I made an appointment with my attorney and I'm taking this matter to the courts where it belongs. thank you to all those who helped me in making this decision.

Again you dot get it. Without a notarized and signed letter giving you permission to leave the country any nation can and probably will reject you at customs. Afterall they can't trust just your word because them any kid napper could do it.

[Anonymous]

OP,

First of all, this doesn't belong in the courts. That would cost you thousands. It's smart you are seeing a lawyer, you should be able to resolve it at that level.

It is better to have a letter, but I traveled with my child to France and Italy and no one asked for a letter. PP 8:57 is wrong, many/most countries do NOT request a letter incoming or outgoing. But as noted it's better to have one.

Good luck.

[Anonymous]

I am a single mother as well and just traveled solo to Abu Dhabi, UAE in April with my DS. I did not have any issues and was not asked to provide any consent form from his fater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lady,

IF THAT IS YOUR KID'S REAL NAME THERE IS TOO MUCH IDENTIFYING INFORMATION IN YOUR POST

Ugh! So dumb....I'm sure op isn't the only single mom with a son named Aaron....get a life!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP,

First of all, this doesn't belong in the courts. That would cost you thousands. It's smart you are seeing a lawyer, you should be able to resolve it at that level.It is better to have a letter, but I traveled with my child to France and Italy and no one asked for a letter. PP 8:57 is wrong, many/most countries do NOT request a letter incoming or outgoing. But as noted it's better to have one.

Good luck.

Actually it does. Her child's father is being difficult - he is not forbidden her to travel with the child, just being difficult for the sake of it. He moved across the country and has little contact with the child - there is not custody agreement in place, so this definitely belongs in the courts. OP has to get the custody thing straighted out to begin with, and while at it, ask the judge for the travel authorization. I hope she gets full custody so she doesn't have to deal with this crap for the next 18 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

First of all, this doesn't belong in the courts. That would cost you thousands. It's smart you are seeing a lawyer, you should be able to resolve it at that level.It is better to have a letter, but I traveled with my child to France and Italy and no one asked for a letter. PP 8:57 is wrong, many/most countries do NOT request a letter incoming or outgoing. But as noted it's better to have one.

Good luck.

Actually it does. Her child's father is being difficult - he is not forbidden her to travel with the child, just being difficult for the sake of it. He moved across the country and has little contact with the child - there is not custody agreement in place, so this definitely belongs in the courts. OP has to get the custody thing straighted out to begin with, and while at it, ask the judge for the travel authorization. I hope she gets full custody so she doesn't have to deal with this crap for the next 18 years.

I agree! If he moved away without trying to see their soN I feel it would be in her best interest to pursue a fiull custody. Trying to co-parent with a unreasonable parent can't be good for the child....good luck!

[Anonymous]

I am a single mom who has travelled extensively with my son. I used to live in DC but am now in Canada. The Canada-US border is the only place officials even bothered to look at my paperwork - and it was only when entering Canada. I have travelled to Italy, Spain, Cuba, Dominican Republic, between US and Canada multiple times for work. You would probably be fine travelling without documentation but personally I wouldn't chance it. I did always travel with a notarized letter giving me permission and now with documentation re full custody status.

I agree you should seek full legal custody while dad is out of the picture. It may be harder later if he changes his mind. You have full physical custody so you will likely get full legal custody. This is important not just for travel but decisions about medical treatment. Unless for emergency treatment, you may be asked to have the permission of other parent. This goes for psychological testing for school purposes. Keep your appt with lawyer but consult re legal custody.