I have no beef at all, I’m just keeping you honest because it’s hard to be objective when you have connections to a college. Again, 66% getting aid doesn’t mean anything in terms of socioeconomic diversity. That includes merit and UMC and rich kids quality too. It’s nice they meet need, but even that can be misleading because UMC could qualify for need given their astronomical COA. So, the question to ask is what percentage of their enrolled students are eligible for Pell. If that percentage is high, I’ll admit I was wrong. |
Correct. They reduced the merit significantly now, move the money to fin aid. |
Is admissions need blind? |
Unfortunately this is the trend nowadays. Probably why middle class kids don't apply there anywhere, but will always throw in an application to Case and Rochester. Honestly I think it's the wrong move. Case model works the best for middle class kids, it's a backup but they might just enroll if the merit is high enough. |
True middle class could qualify for need based aid at UR. You’re probably referring to UMC, but not quite rich enough to pay full freight. That’s okay, plenty of state colleges will give you merit aid or be cheap enough to pay sticker. |
You are probably right. But I still like the Case model more. Richmond is pretending they are among the elites, doing the elite thing giving out fin aid and getting a large percentage of FGLI. But in reality the high stats FGLI would only go to SWAP. Without merit they won't attract middle class high stats either. Their middle range SAT is low compared to top LACs. |
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https://www.richmond.edu/about/consumer-info/diversity.html
For fall 25 it was 15% Pell (fluctuates 15-18%) and 63% white. They are working hard to increase diversity across the board and it shows. |
63% white is astonishingly high. There is not a single school in NE having over 40% white. |
Nearby VCU reports 40% of their class qualifies for Pell. https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/vcu-low-income-grant-july-7-2025#:~:text=Prev%20Next,other%20federal%20dollars%20for%20necessities. |
That’s okay, plenty of colleges like VCU will Pell grant. All ivies will give you a full ride as well. The question is getting in ivies. |
Of course there is. |
Let’s stay on topic. A claim was made suggesting UR was increasing socioeconomic diversity. Maybe that’s true, but it isn’t serving that many true low income students. Nearby VCU on the other hand, is certainly enrolling a lot of low income students. Let’s talk when UR has HALF the Pell percentage that VCU does. Until then, UR is still mostly rich kids. |
Not ones worth the money. |
Thank you for sharing! Appreciate it. |
Using recent College Navigator information, these are the figures for the percent of White students from a few schools from an older Forbes article, "10 Expensive Colleges Worth Every Penny": Dartmouth: 44% Williams: 47% Colgate: 64% Hamilton: 62% Vassar: 54% For comparison, Richmond is 61% White by the same College Navigator source. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliesportelli/2017/04/26/10-expensive-colleges-worth-every-penny-2017/ |