Stopping the data centers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Not sure Ashburn is an exurb and if it was, why would this matter? People live in these places, and their lives are no less important than yours.

I really don’t want them built anywhere because they are a huge resource suck no matter where they are built and they are ruining peoples’ way of life (and probably all of our livelihoods).

I am lucky I live in Fairfax county where it is already very filled in and there are no data centers very close to my house, though it looks like they are building one across from my kid’s school. Hopefully our county government doesn’t get any big ideas and start selling park land.

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I would be very happy if these data centers - and AI in general - simply imploded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VA is only one of 2-3 states that are dumb enough to allow these. SMH.

Time to move.

They're in all 50 states. But VA has the most by far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Seriously? How about we build them wherever it is you live?

They have. It's between the rail lines and 95S. Yes, I know; That's valuable land! We could build mixed use high density housing for poor people that want to listen to trains ane cars all day and night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Not sure Ashburn is an exurb and if it was, why would this matter? People live in these places, and their lives are no less important than yours.

I really don’t want them built anywhere because they are a huge resource suck no matter where they are built and they are ruining peoples’ way of life (and probably all of our livelihoods).

I am lucky I live in Fairfax county where it is already very filled in and there are no data centers very close to my house, though it looks like they are building one across from my kid’s school. Hopefully our county government doesn’t get any big ideas and start selling park land.

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I would be very happy if these data centers - and AI in general - simply imploded.

LOL, you need data centers for far more than just AI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Not sure Ashburn is an exurb and if it was, why would this matter? People live in these places, and their lives are no less important than yours.

I really don’t want them built anywhere because they are a huge resource suck no matter where they are built and they are ruining peoples’ way of life (and probably all of our livelihoods).

I am lucky I live in Fairfax county where it is already very filled in and there are no data centers very close to my house, though it looks like they are building one across from my kid’s school. Hopefully our county government doesn’t get any big ideas and start selling park land.

The datacenters were there in Ashburn before the houses. AOL opened up its campus off Broderick Drive (off Waxpool) in the mid 1990s. Equinix, Global Center, and UUNet built all their datacenters off Smith Switch Road around that time too. Back then, it was all fields around there -- no housing developments.

The people who bought in those areas knew full well what was there -- there were signs all over advertising land for sale, zoned for datacenters.

There was never any zoning for data centers for se. The zoning was for other uses (industrial) that then permitted data centers. Also, The Board of Supervisors made numerous special exceptions to zoning to allow data centers to be built on land that would otherwise not have had a data center, but more recently that has changed.

The number and scale of data centers in Ashburn in the 90s were a tiny fraction of what they are now. No one could possibly have foreseen the future and what the data center presence looks like now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Not sure Ashburn is an exurb and if it was, why would this matter? People live in these places, and their lives are no less important than yours.

I really don’t want them built anywhere because they are a huge resource suck no matter where they are built and they are ruining peoples’ way of life (and probably all of our livelihoods).

I am lucky I live in Fairfax county where it is already very filled in and there are no data centers very close to my house, though it looks like they are building one across from my kid’s school. Hopefully our county government doesn’t get any big ideas and start selling park land.

+100
I would be very happy if these data centers - and AI in general - simply imploded.

Why? AI is great and we need these data centers for progress. What is your problem with them exactly? Why do you hate progress?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Not sure Ashburn is an exurb and if it was, why would this matter? People live in these places, and their lives are no less important than yours.

I really don’t want them built anywhere because they are a huge resource suck no matter where they are built and they are ruining peoples’ way of life (and probably all of our livelihoods).

I am lucky I live in Fairfax county where it is already very filled in and there are no data centers very close to my house, though it looks like they are building one across from my kid’s school. Hopefully our county government doesn’t get any big ideas and start selling park land.

The datacenters were there in Ashburn before the houses. AOL opened up its campus off Broderick Drive (off Waxpool) in the mid 1990s. Equinix, Global Center, and UUNet built all their datacenters off Smith Switch Road around that time too. Back then, it was all fields around there -- no housing developments.

The people who bought in those areas knew full well what was there -- there were signs all over advertising land for sale, zoned for datacenters.

There was never any zoning for data centers for se. The zoning was for other uses (industrial) that then permitted data centers. Also, The Board of Supervisors made numerous special exceptions to zoning to allow data centers to be built on land that would otherwise not have had a data center, but more recently that has changed.

The number and scale of data centers in Ashburn in the 90s were a tiny fraction of what they are now. No one could possibly have foreseen the future and what the data center presence looks like now.

Many people were talking about this in the early 2000s. Most of us saw the writing on the wall and chose to live elsewhere. Saying that this wasn’t an issue and “no one” saw it coming is factually incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Not sure Ashburn is an exurb and if it was, why would this matter? People live in these places, and their lives are no less important than yours.

I really don’t want them built anywhere because they are a huge resource suck no matter where they are built and they are ruining peoples’ way of life (and probably all of our livelihoods).

I am lucky I live in Fairfax county where it is already very filled in and there are no data centers very close to my house, though it looks like they are building one across from my kid’s school. Hopefully our county government doesn’t get any big ideas and start selling park land.

+100
I would be very happy if these data centers - and AI in general - simply imploded.

Why? AI is great and we need these data centers for progress. What is your problem with them exactly? Why do you hate progress?

Must be /s
Progress is not inherently good.
Yes, we are progressing, as in time moves forward and things change.
“Progress” killed all the buffalo in the 1800s to starve and disenfranchise natives and make room for white people, cattle, and trains.
I’m not sure what end we are running towards with AI but it doesn’t seem good. If this much land, materials, energy, and water are already being sucked up now, imagine the scale if AI ever does what the tech bros are promising.
So far just using tons of energy and natural resources and creating wealth inequality and social instability.

[Anonymous]

What's a shame is that the land around the Loudoun Ciunty Metro Stations was once envisioned as mixed use urban villages. That same land has now been given over to data centers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's a shame is that the land around the Loudoun Ciunty Metro Stations was once envisioned as mixed use urban villages. That same land has now been given over to data centers.

Yeah. What a joke the silver line has turned out to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Not sure Ashburn is an exurb and if it was, why would this matter? People live in these places, and their lives are no less important than yours.

I really don’t want them built anywhere because they are a huge resource suck no matter where they are built and they are ruining peoples’ way of life (and probably all of our livelihoods).

I am lucky I live in Fairfax county where it is already very filled in and there are no data centers very close to my house, though it looks like they are building one across from my kid’s school. Hopefully our county government doesn’t get any big ideas and start selling park land.

+100
I would be very happy if these data centers - and AI in general - simply imploded.

Why? AI is great and we need these data centers for progress. What is your problem with them exactly? Why do you hate progress?

Must be /s
Progress is not inherently good.
Yes, we are progressing, as in time moves forward and things change.
“Progress” killed all the buffalo in the 1800s to starve and disenfranchise natives and make room for white people, cattle, and trains.
I’m not sure what end we are running towards with AI but it doesn’t seem good. If this much land, materials, energy, and water are already being sucked up now, imagine the scale if AI ever does what the tech bros are promising.
So far just using tons of energy and natural resources and creating wealth inequality and social instability.

Go ahead, throw your shoes into the machines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's a shame is that the land around the Loudoun Ciunty Metro Stations was once envisioned as mixed use urban villages. That same land has now been given over to data centers.

Apparently, there wasn't sufficient demand to support urban villages in the middle of nowhere.

[Anonymous]

Virginia, Texas, and California has the highest concentrations of data centers.

Don't support these states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Not sure Ashburn is an exurb and if it was, why would this matter? People live in these places, and their lives are no less important than yours.

I really don’t want them built anywhere because they are a huge resource suck no matter where they are built and they are ruining peoples’ way of life (and probably all of our livelihoods).

I am lucky I live in Fairfax county where it is already very filled in and there are no data centers very close to my house, though it looks like they are building one across from my kid’s school. Hopefully our county government doesn’t get any big ideas and start selling park land.

Ashburn has a population of 50,000. We need to build data centers. Should we build one in the middle of Ballston?

Why do you need to build data centers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's out in Ashburn. Now we can't build data centers out in the exurbs?

Not sure Ashburn is an exurb and if it was, why would this matter? People live in these places, and their lives are no less important than yours.

I really don’t want them built anywhere because they are a huge resource suck no matter where they are built and they are ruining peoples’ way of life (and probably all of our livelihoods).

I am lucky I live in Fairfax county where it is already very filled in and there are no data centers very close to my house, though it looks like they are building one across from my kid’s school. Hopefully our county government doesn’t get any big ideas and start selling park land.

The datacenters were there in Ashburn before the houses. AOL opened up its campus off Broderick Drive (off Waxpool) in the mid 1990s. Equinix, Global Center, and UUNet built all their datacenters off Smith Switch Road around that time too. Back then, it was all fields around there -- no housing developments.

The people who bought in those areas knew full well what was there -- there were signs all over advertising land for sale, zoned for datacenters.

There was never any zoning for data centers for se. The zoning was for other uses (industrial) that then permitted data centers. Also, The Board of Supervisors made numerous special exceptions to zoning to allow data centers to be built on land that would otherwise not have had a data center, but more recently that has changed.

The number and scale of data centers in Ashburn in the 90s were a tiny fraction of what they are now. No one could possibly have foreseen the future and what the data center presence looks like now.

Many people were talking about this in the early 2000s. Most of us saw the writing on the wall and chose to live elsewhere. Saying that this wasn’t an issue and “no one” saw it coming is factually incorrect.

How very privileged you are.