| Unfortunately women have been "groomed" to believe that the only way to ensure that a man is committed to them is if they get married. The idea is that marriage has some guardrails that make men think twice before doing anything bad. Lol. Marriage doesn't stop men from misbehaving. |
It is realistic, but it's not what she wants. It sounds like she doesn't want to do the wife-work without the wife-rights, frankly. |
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Maybe she's looking for someone who has more interpersonal intelligence-- like someone who can understand why she would want to marry and not have such a tough time wrapping his head around it.
"I'm so very committed to you, but I'll never ever marry you and want to be able to walk away with all my money at any time" is not really that convincing, is it? |
OP here. You are correct. And she is absolutely allowed change her mind. She didn't do anything wrong. We do love each other. I just wish marriage was never going to be in the picture. Part of me is scared of being married again. We may end up breaking up because of me. I am just not ready to change my mind. We will talk about it more I'm sure as I avoided the subject when she brought it up. I just wanted to have the point of view of strangers on the Internet. I am the issue and not her. She hasn't said anything wrong. I am just disappointed that me not being on board right away is letting her down. Grrrr relationships are hard. Maybe I should have stayed single. |
OP doesn’t need to end the relationship. Agreed, she soft inquired, and OP answered it. Ball is in her court if she wants to end things. |
So you're not very committed. That's what it means to be not very committed! I doubt your girlfriend thinks marriage prevents men from cheating on women. What it does, legally, is make it much more difficult to break up financially and legally. And that's probably something she likes about it. She wants to be with someone who likes her so much, or doesn't have whatever trauma you have, that is making you refuse the economic commitment that is marriage. Really think about how much caregiving you can expect from a woman you are treating this way. You won't be healthy forever. The older you get, the more often things come up. |
| Geez, you sound like a whiny loser. |
I don't think she expected you to be on board "right away". But she brought up moving in together, and you declined. So she gave you more time. Now she's likely to either break up with you or push you for a timeline or at least moving in together. I suspect she's bringing it up now because she wants to get the wheels in motion for when you're both empty nesters. She's probably not willing to spend her healthy empty nesting years waiting around for someone who doesn't want the same thing she wants. Personally, as a woman, I would not want to live with two teenage boys ever at all. Do you not have any custody? |
You don’t want to live together even after your kids all move out? That may be realistic for you but not most people. I don’t ever want to get remarried but move in, yes. |
| Her kid is out of the house and so she is free and clear to marry without it affecting her child ‘s every day life. Your kids aren’t, they still need you for day to day things and will for at least 5 more years. |
| I hope she finds what she wants. This isn’t it. |
| Tell her your concerns and Develop a prenup to deal with all your fears. She obviously loves you and your wanting to draw a line in the sand means you either don’t love her or are not someone can solve problems. |
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I’m a 51 year old divorced woman. I don’t want to get married again but l also wouldn’t use the word “never”.
It sounds like you really love her and are compatible. Your stance on never is totally fine. Reiterate it to her one more time If she’s changed her mind (it happens and is not a character flaw), or if she was misleading you (that would be a big problem), it’s better fir you to get to the bottom of it sooner rather than later. |
OP, just be honest with her! Just tell her you love her, you feel like she is your person, you want to be with her and stay with her, but you need to be honest and say that at least right now, the thought of marrying again scares the hell out of you and makes you feel like running, and you know this is b/c of your own bad experiences, not her, but you're finding it stressful even to think about it. And let that open up a conversation where you ask questions, of herself and yourself! E.g., is this just a thought but not super important to her? Is she feeling like the more she thinks about it, the more she feels that she will eventually want to remarry and if you are a hard no and certain you will stay that way, she may need to move on? Or is she just exploring this idea herself, and isn't really sure how important it is? And for you: what is it that scares you? Is it money stuff? (if so, you can talk about a pre-nup). Is it that you just feel like it is too soon and your head is not there? Are you really certain you would rather lose your "person" than even consider the possibility that maybe, in a few years, you might change your mind? Because people do change their minds. I got divorced after a long separation (six years) from an abusive spouse, and three years ago I was certain I would never want to remarry. But now, after two years in a loving and healthy relationship, I am no longer as sure as I used to be that I would never remarry. Sounds like your GF has had a similar trajectory, and you might too! If you love her, I'd urge you to go into this not with "I'm hard no, I will never ever change my mind, so if you want to remarry that is a dealbreaker, I will end this relationship!" (Which I think comes from fear). Try to go into this being honest about your fears, and honesty about how right now you feel like your feelings won't change, but with some openness to the possibility that you might change your views, and a willingness to talk more about what she is now finding appealing about the idea and about other ways you might allay your fears, or hers. |