can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

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Anonymous wrote:Club thinks player will get bigger when they hit puberty. Currently they're a decent player and have the potential to be much more after puberty. So you play this kid against younger players until they hit puberty. At that time they go back to playing against players their age.

Unfortunately many clubs play ringers down against younger teams for wins. Which defeats the purpose of biobanding.

Its the difference between short term and long term thinking.

i've seen teams play a clearly not undersized older kid down in their games mid-season. surely this isn't what biobanding is intended to be? totally get kids who are small at beginning of season playing down who grow during season. don't get large kids just playing down just to win. seems a bit like cheating and how does this help the kid who isn't small, playing with and against younger competition.

Any time my kid has played against bigger players, I see it as great practice for my kid to rely on technique and to play under pressure. I think those parents and players who make a fuss about bio banded players care way too much about winning which is all you need to know about the level of player they have. Pretend concern for the biobanded kid is just pretext.

Bioband player steals a top team spot from a younger player who loses the opportunity to grow.

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Anonymous wrote:Club thinks player will get bigger when they hit puberty. Currently they're a decent player and have the potential to be much more after puberty. So you play this kid against younger players until they hit puberty. At that time they go back to playing against players their age.

Unfortunately many clubs play ringers down against younger teams for wins. Which defeats the purpose of biobanding.

Its the difference between short term and long term thinking.

i've seen teams play a clearly not undersized older kid down in their games mid-season. surely this isn't what biobanding is intended to be? totally get kids who are small at beginning of season playing down who grow during season. don't get large kids just playing down just to win. seems a bit like cheating and how does this help the kid who isn't small, playing with and against younger competition.

Any time my kid has played against bigger players, I see it as great practice for my kid to rely on technique and to play under pressure. I think those parents and players who make a fuss about bio banded players care way too much about winning which is all you need to know about the level of player they have. Pretend concern for the biobanded kid is just pretext.

Bioband player steals a top team spot from a younger player who loses the opportunity to grow.

Oh please, a younger player thinking something was stolen from them is not going to go very far. Drop to rec.

[Anonymous]

It will be interesting to see if MLS gets rid of biobanding as they move more into the MLS2 p2p world.

You shouldn't need to bioband down an age group if a B or C team spot is available in your own age group.

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Anonymous wrote:Club thinks player will get bigger when they hit puberty. Currently they're a decent player and have the potential to be much more after puberty. So you play this kid against younger players until they hit puberty. At that time they go back to playing against players their age.

Unfortunately many clubs play ringers down against younger teams for wins. Which defeats the purpose of biobanding.

Its the difference between short term and long term thinking.

i've seen teams play a clearly not undersized older kid down in their games mid-season. surely this isn't what biobanding is intended to be? totally get kids who are small at beginning of season playing down who grow during season. don't get large kids just playing down just to win. seems a bit like cheating and how does this help the kid who isn't small, playing with and against younger competition.

Any time my kid has played against bigger players, I see it as great practice for my kid to rely on technique and to play under pressure. I think those parents and players who make a fuss about bio banded players care way too much about winning which is all you need to know about the level of player they have. Pretend concern for the biobanded kid is just pretext.

Bioband player steals a top team spot from a younger player who loses the opportunity to grow.

Oh please, a younger player thinking something was stolen from them is not going to go very far. Drop to rec.

Why does the Bioband player have to steal a younger player's spot? Instead of forcing the younger player to drop to rec, why not have the bioband player try to play in his own age group? Just don't be a cheater. The shame will stay with you.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see if MLS gets rid of biobanding as they move more into the MLS2 p2p world.

You shouldn't need to bioband down an age group if a B or C team spot is available in your own age group.

ECNL parents are already mad because their Dds will face 5 months older players. They will run berserk if ECNL announces biobanding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see if MLS gets rid of biobanding as they move more into the MLS2 p2p world.

You shouldn't need to bioband down an age group if a B or C team spot is available in your own age group.

ECNL parents are already mad because their Dds will face 5 months older players. They will run berserk if ECNL announces biobanding.

Biobanding is pretty much the same thing as GY (grade year) which is how High School soccer is grouped. Theres a few more hoops to jump though but the end effect is the same. 16 year old Freshman and 20 year old seniors in high school playjng sports against players 2 years younger.

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Anonymous wrote:Club thinks player will get bigger when they hit puberty. Currently they're a decent player and have the potential to be much more after puberty. So you play this kid against younger players until they hit puberty. At that time they go back to playing against players their age.

Unfortunately many clubs play ringers down against younger teams for wins. Which defeats the purpose of biobanding.

Its the difference between short term and long term thinking.

i've seen teams play a clearly not undersized older kid down in their games mid-season. surely this isn't what biobanding is intended to be? totally get kids who are small at beginning of season playing down who grow during season. don't get large kids just playing down just to win. seems a bit like cheating and how does this help the kid who isn't small, playing with and against younger competition.

Any time my kid has played against bigger players, I see it as great practice for my kid to rely on technique and to play under pressure. I think those parents and players who make a fuss about bio banded players care way too much about winning which is all you need to know about the level of player they have. Pretend concern for the biobanded kid is just pretext.

Bioband player steals a top team spot from a younger player who loses the opportunity to grow.

Oh please, a younger player thinking something was stolen from them is not going to go very far. Drop to rec.

Why does the Bioband player have to steal a younger player's spot? Instead of forcing the younger player to drop to rec, why not have the bioband player try to play in his own age group? Just don't be a cheater. The shame will stay with you.

Why don’t you just raise a player in an environment with less whining and blaming? Drop them to rec if that’s where they will thrive. But MLSNext is not where they belong if you care this much about biobanded players.

You’re assuming my player is biobanded because I’m defending biobanded players. He’s not but him and teammates don’t care about who is biobanded or not because they’re confident about their skills. At MLSNext, you’re already playing teams that skew more like SYC in size, a biobanded player makes zero difference in the competition. I bet you’re also complaining that SYC players and similar teams should play their oversized players up.

Raise a player that has a tougher mentality. No one wants a whiner on their team.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see if MLS gets rid of biobanding as they move more into the MLS2 p2p world.

You shouldn't need to bioband down an age group if a B or C team spot is available in your own age group.

ECNL parents are already mad because their Dds will face 5 months older players. They will run berserk if ECNL announces biobanding.

All ECNL needs to do is after implementing SY with a 8/1-7/31 eligibility window. Implement a rule that younger that the eligibility window players must play on a team with players predominantly their grade in school.

What this does is not allow older players to play down on younger teams and for younger players then the eligibility window to only play on teams that are their grade in school. (cant play down) In the end all groupings are aligned by grade. Parents are happy because the money spent only goes to their kid or their kids team and college coaches are happy because all players on the field are a certain grade at events.

This kills all traction for implementing things like biobanding or GY.

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Anonymous wrote:Club thinks player will get bigger when they hit puberty. Currently they're a decent player and have the potential to be much more after puberty. So you play this kid against younger players until they hit puberty. At that time they go back to playing against players their age.

Unfortunately many clubs play ringers down against younger teams for wins. Which defeats the purpose of biobanding.

Its the difference between short term and long term thinking.

i've seen teams play a clearly not undersized older kid down in their games mid-season. surely this isn't what biobanding is intended to be? totally get kids who are small at beginning of season playing down who grow during season. don't get large kids just playing down just to win. seems a bit like cheating and how does this help the kid who isn't small, playing with and against younger competition.

Any time my kid has played against bigger players, I see it as great practice for my kid to rely on technique and to play under pressure. I think those parents and players who make a fuss about bio banded players care way too much about winning which is all you need to know about the level of player they have. Pretend concern for the biobanded kid is just pretext.

Bioband player steals a top team spot from a younger player who loses the opportunity to grow.

Oh please, a younger player thinking something was stolen from them is not going to go very far. Drop to rec.

Why does the Bioband player have to steal a younger player's spot? Instead of forcing the younger player to drop to rec, why not have the bioband player try to play in his own age group? Just don't be a cheater. The shame will stay with you.

Why don’t you just raise a player in an environment with less whining and blaming? Drop them to rec if that’s where they will thrive. But MLSNext is not where they belong if you care this much about biobanded players.

You’re assuming my player is biobanded because I’m defending biobanded players. He’s not but him and teammates don’t care about who is biobanded or not because they’re confident about their skills. At MLSNext, you’re already playing teams that skew more like SYC in size, a biobanded player makes zero difference in the competition. I bet you’re also complaining that SYC players and similar teams should play their oversized players up.

Raise a player that has a tougher mentality. No one wants a whiner on their team.

Hope there are 3 biobanding players in your team and take 3 spots playing full time soon.

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Anonymous wrote:Club thinks player will get bigger when they hit puberty. Currently they're a decent player and have the potential to be much more after puberty. So you play this kid against younger players until they hit puberty. At that time they go back to playing against players their age.

Unfortunately many clubs play ringers down against younger teams for wins. Which defeats the purpose of biobanding.

Its the difference between short term and long term thinking.

i've seen teams play a clearly not undersized older kid down in their games mid-season. surely this isn't what biobanding is intended to be? totally get kids who are small at beginning of season playing down who grow during season. don't get large kids just playing down just to win. seems a bit like cheating and how does this help the kid who isn't small, playing with and against younger competition.

Any time my kid has played against bigger players, I see it as great practice for my kid to rely on technique and to play under pressure. I think those parents and players who make a fuss about bio banded players care way too much about winning which is all you need to know about the level of player they have. Pretend concern for the biobanded kid is just pretext.

Bioband player steals a top team spot from a younger player who loses the opportunity to grow.

Oh please, a younger player thinking something was stolen from them is not going to go very far. Drop to rec.

Why does the Bioband player have to steal a younger player's spot? Instead of forcing the younger player to drop to rec, why not have the bioband player try to play in his own age group? Just don't be a cheater. The shame will stay with you.

Why don’t you just raise a player in an environment with less whining and blaming? Drop them to rec if that’s where they will thrive. But MLSNext is not where they belong if you care this much about biobanded players.

You’re assuming my player is biobanded because I’m defending biobanded players. He’s not but him and teammates don’t care about who is biobanded or not because they’re confident about their skills. At MLSNext, you’re already playing teams that skew more like SYC in size, a biobanded player makes zero difference in the competition. I bet you’re also complaining that SYC players and similar teams should play their oversized players up.

Raise a player that has a tougher mentality. No one wants a whiner on their team.

Hope there are 3 biobanding players in your team and take 3 spots playing full time soon.

Spoken like a parent who has to worry about something like that happening to their player. Use it as a lesson for your player to work harder and ignore your whining.

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Anonymous wrote:Club thinks player will get bigger when they hit puberty. Currently they're a decent player and have the potential to be much more after puberty. So you play this kid against younger players until they hit puberty. At that time they go back to playing against players their age.

Unfortunately many clubs play ringers down against younger teams for wins. Which defeats the purpose of biobanding.

Its the difference between short term and long term thinking.

i've seen teams play a clearly not undersized older kid down in their games mid-season. surely this isn't what biobanding is intended to be? totally get kids who are small at beginning of season playing down who grow during season. don't get large kids just playing down just to win. seems a bit like cheating and how does this help the kid who isn't small, playing with and against younger competition.

Any time my kid has played against bigger players, I see it as great practice for my kid to rely on technique and to play under pressure. I think those parents and players who make a fuss about bio banded players care way too much about winning which is all you need to know about the level of player they have. Pretend concern for the biobanded kid is just pretext.

Bioband player steals a top team spot from a younger player who loses the opportunity to grow.

Oh please, a younger player thinking something was stolen from them is not going to go very far. Drop to rec.

Why does the Bioband player have to steal a younger player's spot? Instead of forcing the younger player to drop to rec, why not have the bioband player try to play in his own age group? Just don't be a cheater. The shame will stay with you.

Why don’t you just raise a player in an environment with less whining and blaming? Drop them to rec if that’s where they will thrive. But MLSNext is not where they belong if you care this much about biobanded players.

You’re assuming my player is biobanded because I’m defending biobanded players. He’s not but him and teammates don’t care about who is biobanded or not because they’re confident about their skills. At MLSNext, you’re already playing teams that skew more like SYC in size, a biobanded player makes zero difference in the competition. I bet you’re also complaining that SYC players and similar teams should play their oversized players up.

Raise a player that has a tougher mentality. No one wants a whiner on their team.

Hope there are 3 biobanding players in your team and take 3 spots playing full time soon.

Spoken like a parent who has to worry about something like that happening to their player. Use it as a lesson for your player to work harder and ignore your whining.

I'm ok with MLS playing older players down or doing whatever they want with the teams they fund (homegrown).

However if parents are paying the bill older players need to stay with the age group they paid for. Play on a B team if you're not good enough for the A team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see if MLS gets rid of biobanding as they move more into the MLS2 p2p world.

You shouldn't need to bioband down an age group if a B or C team spot is available in your own age group.

This doesn't make any sense because all MLSN P2P teams currently have 2nd teams and still bioband.

[Anonymous]

So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?

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Anonymous wrote:One word: cheating.

100% on this. If you cannot play in your own age group in a P2P club, you are just a mediocre player with no hope and have to rely on playing in the younger group to stay in the top team. IMHO, it is not worth the shame with you after soccer.

Your Ignorance of Relative Age Effect is on full display 😒

Guess the Harry Kane's are living with that shame. So too Kevin De Bruyne and Declan Rice

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Anonymous wrote:Club thinks player will get bigger when they hit puberty. Currently they're a decent player and have the potential to be much more after puberty. So you play this kid against younger players until they hit puberty. At that time they go back to playing against players their age.

Unfortunately many clubs play ringers down against younger teams for wins. Which defeats the purpose of biobanding.

Its the difference between short term and long term thinking.

i've seen teams play a clearly not undersized older kid down in their games mid-season. surely this isn't what biobanding is intended to be? totally get kids who are small at beginning of season playing down who grow during season. don't get large kids just playing down just to win. seems a bit like cheating and how does this help the kid who isn't small, playing with and against younger competition.

Any time my kid has played against bigger players, I see it as great practice for my kid to rely on technique and to play under pressure. I think those parents and players who make a fuss about bio banded players care way too much about winning which is all you need to know about the level of player they have. Pretend concern for the biobanded kid is just pretext.

Bioband player steals a top team spot from a younger player who loses the opportunity to grow.

Oh please, a younger player thinking something was stolen from them is not going to go very far. Drop to rec.

Why does the Bioband player have to steal a younger player's spot? Instead of forcing the younger player to drop to rec, why not have the bioband player try to play in his own age group? Just don't be a cheater. The shame will stay with you.

Why don’t you just raise a player in an environment with less whining and blaming? Drop them to rec if that’s where they will thrive. But MLSNext is not where they belong if you care this much about biobanded players.

You’re assuming my player is biobanded because I’m defending biobanded players. He’s not but him and teammates don’t care about who is biobanded or not because they’re confident about their skills. At MLSNext, you’re already playing teams that skew more like SYC in size, a biobanded player makes zero difference in the competition. I bet you’re also complaining that SYC players and similar teams should play their oversized players up.

Raise a player that has a tougher mentality. No one wants a whiner on their team.

Hope there are 3 biobanding players in your team and take 3 spots playing full time soon.

Spoken like a parent who has to worry about something like that happening to their player. Use it as a lesson for your player to work harder and ignore your whining.

I'm ok with MLS playing older players down or doing whatever they want with the teams they fund (homegrown).

However if parents are paying the bill older players need to stay with the age group they paid for. Play on a B team if you're not good enough for the A team.

It's obviously not a skill issue, it's a size development issue. Sheesh