can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

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Anonymous wrote:I am just glad ECNL does not have this kind of biobanding shit. My kid wants to play HS soccer, so MLS is never our option. And even in HS soccer, seniors will not play down in the JV team, and juniors or sophomores will not play down in the freshman team. If they can not make the team for their grade, they will not "bioband" to play in the school team for a younger grade.

Can you take some of these MLS Next parents with you over to ECNL? MLS Next was not created to develop the "next" JV and Varsity high school talents. It was created to develop the next professional players. Whether they are successful is a different question but you are exactly in the right place and it seems like you should bring some people with you.

I am curious for the rest. When a kid shows up to practice or in a game, do parents ask for birth certifications or a bio-banding confirmation? How do you know who is bio-banding because I have never once questioned a kids age? My kids plays against kids that look like they can literally eat him but that is just the nature of development.

When my son first got roughed up by bigger and stronger kids, I did not ask for birth certificates or bio-banding documentation. We went to the Veo. I showed him how much space was available if used his advantages which are soccer IQ, scanning and a great first touch. It took a couple of months but he got it and plays with anticipation. He learned how to create leverage and shield a player once he beats him. He won't be winning any headers for a while still.

Some of you should take this conversation to the Extra Comfortable National League where parent experience and successful events are touted by the CEO. They will make sure you are well taken care of, everything is fair and you have an extra comfortable experience for parent and child.

You are a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tried to read through the threads but it's really confusing. Is it for small kids (statutre/size) with potential to play down? if so why are there kids who aren't smaller in stature/size playing down as biobanded kids? Legit confused about the purpose of it if there are average or taller sized kids playing down. And is it just MLSN does it or also ECNL?

I haven’t read stuff but I have a theory that leagues should run by..
Red (beginner)
Yellow (getting more serious)
Green (essentially the travel kids, but we truly don’t need travel as much as people say we do)

..Levels

AND there should be groups put together that are bracketed by weight and age.

Not enough for 10 teams of competition?? Fine. I would rather a beginning 50 lb kid even though he is in 2nd grade play with 1st-3rd beginners in his weight class.

Than to play with a 4’11” non beginner whose parents want him in rec because he doesn’t want to travel.

There could be another level above geeen if needed.

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The older RL team practices along with my kid's NL team. Some RL players definitely are on par with the younger NL players. You can wonder why those kids don't just go to MLSN and do biobanding to play down in the younger MLS team instead. I think those players have dignity.

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I begged my rec for a change bc my late November son has smaller parents. He’s just always going to be smaller.

He was 9 on u12. He was not going to turn 10 during the season, I tried to persuade .. could he play u10. He was also coming back from a year break where he did flag football and swimming. So not the strongest skills.

Nope, they did not allow an exception to the calendar year rule.

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Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?

Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.

there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok

I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.

enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.

There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.

Most biobanding are cheaters and younger players look down on them.

Players look down on players who complain about biobanders too. Or who complain in general. Or maybe just feels sorry for them. Either way, they do not want that mentality on the team.

I think it is more like despise than complain.

Nah, it's only you jaded parents

The kids don't care unless the opponent is very big and physically aggressive causing injuries

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Anonymous wrote:For those whose team had a bio banded player. Where is that player now?

The biobanded kid on my DS MLS Next team played both on age and down. Mainly on age.

Probably only played down 2 or 3 times all year

Our two biobanding players play every game with us. What losers

You're an adult calling kids losers?
What is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:I am just glad ECNL does not have this kind of biobanding shit. My kid wants to play HS soccer, so MLS is never our option. And even in HS soccer, seniors will not play down in the JV team, and juniors or sophomores will not play down in the freshman team. If they can not make the team for their grade, they will not "bioband" to play in the school team for a younger grade.

Can you take some of these MLS Next parents with you over to ECNL? MLS Next was not created to develop the "next" JV and Varsity high school talents. It was created to develop the next professional players. Whether they are successful is a different question but you are exactly in the right place and it seems like you should bring some people with you.

I am curious for the rest. When a kid shows up to practice or in a game, do parents ask for birth certifications or a bio-banding confirmation? How do you know who is bio-banding because I have never once questioned a kids age? My kids plays against kids that look like they can literally eat him but that is just the nature of development.

When my son first got roughed up by bigger and stronger kids, I did not ask for birth certificates or bio-banding documentation. We went to the Veo. I showed him how much space was available if used his advantages which are soccer IQ, scanning and a great first touch. It took a couple of months but he got it and plays with anticipation. He learned how to create leverage and shield a player once he beats him. He won't be winning any headers for a while still.

Some of you should take this conversation to the Extra Comfortable National League where parent experience and successful events are touted by the CEO. They will make sure you are well taken care of, everything is fair and you have an extra comfortable experience for parent and child.

If MLSN is so pro path focused then why does bother with MLSN non academy P2P, aka MLSN2? And why did they start MLSN3 and MLSN4 last year?

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Anonymous wrote:I am just glad ECNL does not have this kind of biobanding shit. My kid wants to play HS soccer, so MLS is never our option. And even in HS soccer, seniors will not play down in the JV team, and juniors or sophomores will not play down in the freshman team. If they can not make the team for their grade, they will not "bioband" to play in the school team for a younger grade.

Can you take some of these MLS Next parents with you over to ECNL? MLS Next was not created to develop the "next" JV and Varsity high school talents. It was created to develop the next professional players. Whether they are successful is a different question but you are exactly in the right place and it seems like you should bring some people with you.

I am curious for the rest. When a kid shows up to practice or in a game, do parents ask for birth certifications or a bio-banding confirmation? How do you know who is bio-banding because I have never once questioned a kids age? My kids plays against kids that look like they can literally eat him but that is just the nature of development.

When my son first got roughed up by bigger and stronger kids, I did not ask for birth certificates or bio-banding documentation. We went to the Veo. I showed him how much space was available if used his advantages which are soccer IQ, scanning and a great first touch. It took a couple of months but he got it and plays with anticipation. He learned how to create leverage and shield a player once he beats him. He won't be winning any headers for a while still.

Some of you should take this conversation to the Extra Comfortable National League where parent experience and successful events are touted by the CEO. They will make sure you are well taken care of, everything is fair and you have an extra comfortable experience for parent and child.

You are a joke.

Like anyone offended by that honest commentary Captain Huggies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am just glad ECNL does not have this kind of biobanding shit. My kid wants to play HS soccer, so MLS is never our option. And even in HS soccer, seniors will not play down in the JV team, and juniors or sophomores will not play down in the freshman team. If they can not make the team for their grade, they will not "bioband" to play in the school team for a younger grade.

Can you take some of these MLS Next parents with you over to ECNL? MLS Next was not created to develop the "next" JV and Varsity high school talents. It was created to develop the next professional players. Whether they are successful is a different question but you are exactly in the right place and it seems like you should bring some people with you.

I am curious for the rest. When a kid shows up to practice or in a game, do parents ask for birth certifications or a bio-banding confirmation? How do you know who is bio-banding because I have never once questioned a kids age? My kids plays against kids that look like they can literally eat him but that is just the nature of development.

When my son first got roughed up by bigger and stronger kids, I did not ask for birth certificates or bio-banding documentation. We went to the Veo. I showed him how much space was available if used his advantages which are soccer IQ, scanning and a great first touch. It took a couple of months but he got it and plays with anticipation. He learned how to create leverage and shield a player once he beats him. He won't be winning any headers for a while still.

Some of you should take this conversation to the Extra Comfortable National League where parent experience and successful events are touted by the CEO. They will make sure you are well taken care of, everything is fair and you have an extra comfortable experience for parent and child.

If MLSN is so pro path focused then why does bother with MLSN non academy P2P, aka MLSN2? And why did they start MLSN3 and MLSN4 last year?

They created MLS Next 1 and 2 to profit on a marketplace which they successfully did. They are a business and business is GOOOOOOD!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am just glad ECNL does not have this kind of biobanding shit. My kid wants to play HS soccer, so MLS is never our option. And even in HS soccer, seniors will not play down in the JV team, and juniors or sophomores will not play down in the freshman team. If they can not make the team for their grade, they will not "bioband" to play in the school team for a younger grade.

Can you take some of these MLS Next parents with you over to ECNL? MLS Next was not created to develop the "next" JV and Varsity high school talents. It was created to develop the next professional players. Whether they are successful is a different question but you are exactly in the right place and it seems like you should bring some people with you.

I am curious for the rest. When a kid shows up to practice or in a game, do parents ask for birth certifications or a bio-banding confirmation? How do you know who is bio-banding because I have never once questioned a kids age? My kids plays against kids that look like they can literally eat him but that is just the nature of development.

When my son first got roughed up by bigger and stronger kids, I did not ask for birth certificates or bio-banding documentation. We went to the Veo. I showed him how much space was available if used his advantages which are soccer IQ, scanning and a great first touch. It took a couple of months but he got it and plays with anticipation. He learned how to create leverage and shield a player once he beats him. He won't be winning any headers for a while still.

Some of you should take this conversation to the Extra Comfortable National League where parent experience and successful events are touted by the CEO. They will make sure you are well taken care of, everything is fair and you have an extra comfortable experience for parent and child.

If MLSN is so pro path focused then why does bother with MLSN non academy P2P, aka MLSN2? And why did they start MLSN3 and MLSN4 last year?

They created MLS Next 1 and 2 to profit on a marketplace which they successfully did. They are a business and business is GOOOOOOD!

MLS Next 2 are the same 2nd teams on MLS Next clubs that existed prior as NAL

They are even still administered by the same NAL administrators

Where are the imaginary mlsn3 and mlsn4 to be found?

[Anonymous]

Can anyone explain why we're fine with bigger early developers playing up but losing our minds about smaller late developers playing down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain why we're fine with bigger early developers playing up but losing our minds about smaller late developers playing down?

"We're" not. I think everyone is in agreement that it's a good idea to have late developers play down a year to put them in the best environment to develop. What I have a problem with is the rule being abused by clubs to play larger players, not quite good enough to get minutes for their on-age first team, down to get wins. Unless you're the tough guy above, it's a bad idea that hinders the development of the kids playing down and the kids who lose time because of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just glad ECNL does not have this kind of biobanding shit. My kid wants to play HS soccer, so MLS is never our option. And even in HS soccer, seniors will not play down in the JV team, and juniors or sophomores will not play down in the freshman team. If they can not make the team for their grade, they will not "bioband" to play in the school team for a younger grade.

Can you take some of these MLS Next parents with you over to ECNL? MLS Next was not created to develop the "next" JV and Varsity high school talents. It was created to develop the next professional players. Whether they are successful is a different question but you are exactly in the right place and it seems like you should bring some people with you.

I am curious for the rest. When a kid shows up to practice or in a game, do parents ask for birth certifications or a bio-banding confirmation? How do you know who is bio-banding because I have never once questioned a kids age? My kids plays against kids that look like they can literally eat him but that is just the nature of development.

When my son first got roughed up by bigger and stronger kids, I did not ask for birth certificates or bio-banding documentation. We went to the Veo. I showed him how much space was available if used his advantages which are soccer IQ, scanning and a great first touch. It took a couple of months but he got it and plays with anticipation. He learned how to create leverage and shield a player once he beats him. He won't be winning any headers for a while still.

Some of you should take this conversation to the Extra Comfortable National League where parent experience and successful events are touted by the CEO. They will make sure you are well taken care of, everything is fair and you have an extra comfortable experience for parent and child.

Can you at least admit that your rationale for being ok with clubs cheating with the bio-banding rule is exactly opposite the rationale for having the rule?

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain why we're fine with bigger early developers playing up but losing our minds about smaller late developers playing down?

"We're" not. I think everyone is in agreement that it's a good idea to have late developers play down a year to put them in the best environment to develop. What I have a problem with is the rule being abused by clubs to play larger players, not quite good enough to get minutes for their on-age first team, down to get wins. Unless you're the tough guy above, it's a bad idea that hinders the development of the kids playing down and the kids who lose time because of it.

When early bloomers physical developers play up, don't take time from someone?

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain why we're fine with bigger early developers playing up but losing our minds about smaller late developers playing down?

"We're" not. I think everyone is in agreement that it's a good idea to have late developers play down a year to put them in the best environment to develop. What I have a problem with is the rule being abused by clubs to play larger players, not quite good enough to get minutes for their on-age first team, down to get wins. Unless you're the tough guy above, it's a bad idea that hinders the development of the kids playing down and the kids who lose time because of it.

When early bloomers physical developers play up, don't take time from someone?

right, just like every time any player is chosen to get minutes over another player. you selected one aspect of this.

You're ignoring abusing a rule to cheat (playing up is within the rules) and taking time from a player that is good enough to get minutes in their age group for a player that is not good enough to get minutes in their age group.