How are we living through such a dumb era?

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Anonymous wrote:And trump will be pushing a drug to cure it. Ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. It’s downright rude.

The "drug" is a vitamin that can't be patented. If it helps kids with autism what's the problem?
Oh, because everything done under this admin is bad by default. Of course.

Does it actually help? Let’s see the peer-reviewed studies.

99.999% of the crap that Trump does is bad/fiction. Yes, by default, we can assume it’s bad until proven otherwise.

I’m with you on the latter point, and will meet with skepticism everything this administration does. I think RFK Jr is a loon and a narcissist, and that he’s wrong about vaccines. And I think at his best he speaks in absolutes about things that are much, much more complex than that.

But all that said, I did find some peer reviewed studies about folate deficiency and improvements in autism symptoms. Can’t cite them offhand but I kept a running list on my home computer and I’ll try to post them later.

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid under 3 got multiple shots at once? That’s your answer.

Oh eff of you anti-science measles promoting moron.

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Folate deficiency has also been studied as having a role in EDS. This is a genetic thing, much like the findings in autism. Nothing to do with Tylenol.

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid under 3 got multiple shots at once? That’s your answer.

Oh eff of you anti-science measles promoting moron.

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Folate poster here.

Not a scientist here but I thought the whole thing was related to a specific MTHR gene variant that causes a problem with folate metabolism. Taking the above mentioned type of folate can be beneficial to some with autism and other MTHR associated conditions but is not a cure. Is this correct?

Just a curious person who is trying to understand and no longer knows where to get unbiased information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And trump will be pushing a drug to cure it. Ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. It’s downright rude.

The "drug" is a vitamin that can't be patented. If it helps kids with autism what's the problem?
Oh, because everything done under this admin is bad by default. Of course.

It is a prescription formulation, Teva pharmaceuticals. Rx only because it can be toxic, among other things. I can’t trust anything this administration does in area of science, trump does everything in his power to assassinate science and make USA as sick as possible. He’s taking advantage of parents who want the best for their children, selling snake oil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And trump will be pushing a drug to cure it. Ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. It’s downright rude.

The "drug" is a vitamin that can't be patented. If it helps kids with autism what's the problem?
Oh, because everything done under this admin is bad by default. Of course.

Does it actually help? Let’s see the peer-reviewed studies.

99.999% of the crap that Trump does is bad/fiction. Yes, by default, we can assume it’s bad until proven otherwise.

These are more recent studies. Not the originals which date back over a decade. If the Biden administration knew about them but didnt push for treatment is that "bad"? Is he bad? Are you bad if you have rhe evidence but spend your time dissuading people from helping their suffering children? Is it bad to see the world as good guys and bad guys? Is it only immature?

Renard E, Leheup B, Guéant-Rodriguez RM, Oussalah A, Quadros EV, Guéant JL. Folinic acid improves the score of Autism in the EFFET placebo-controlled randomized trial. Biochimie. 2020 Jun;173:57-61. doi: 10.1016/j.biochi.2020.04.019. Epub 2020 May 7. PMID: 32387472.



Batebi N, Moghaddam HS, Hasanzadeh A, Fakour Y, Mohammadi MR, Akhondzadeh S. Folinic Acid as Adjunctive Therapy in Treatment of Inappropriate Speech in Children with 52(5):928-938. doi: 10.1007/s10578-020-01072-8. Epub 2020 Oct 7. PMID: 33029705.



Panda PK, Sharawat IK, Saha S, Gupta D, Palayullakandi A, Meena K. Efficacy of oral folinic acid supplementation in children with autism spectrum 183(11):4827-4835. doi: 10.1007/s00431-024-05762-6. Epub 2024 Sep 7. PMID: 39243316.



Zhang C, Chen Y, Hou F, Li Y, Wang W, Guo L, Zhang C, Li L, Lu C. Safety and Efficacy of High-Dose Folinic Acid in Children with 17(9):1602. doi: 10.3390/nu17091602. PMCID: PMC12073535.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And trump will be pushing a drug to cure it. Ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. It’s downright rude.

The "drug" is a vitamin that can't be patented. If it helps kids with autism what's the problem?
Oh, because everything done under this admin is bad by default. Of course.

It is a prescription formulation, Teva pharmaceuticals. Rx only because it can be toxic, among other things. I can’t trust anything this administration does in area of science, trump does everything in his power to assassinate science and make USA as sick as possible. He’s taking advantage of parents who want the best for their children, selling snake oil.

Water soluble vitamins are not toxic.

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Anonymous wrote:Folate poster here.

Not a scientist here but I thought the whole thing was related to a specific MTHR gene variant that causes a problem with folate metabolism. Taking the above mentioned type of folate can be beneficial to some with autism and other MTHR associated conditions but is not a cure. Is this correct?

Just a curious person who is trying to understand and no longer knows where to get unbiased information.

Not mthfr. Its an autoimmune condition called folate receptor alpha auto antibodies. This is one of the major causes of cerebral folate deficiency.

There are 2 variants along the mthfr gene that can cause clinically significant folate deficiency, but the treatment for that is generally just 5mthfr, or methylfolate.

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever someone uses the word dumb to mean stupid, I know the next part out of their mouth is going to be low quality information.

Sorry you struggle with words. Better go take your folic acid.

Stay ignorant!
Do you think it's weird that with the increased rate of autism since 2005 when they changed the DSM, that no administration pushed to have autism screening? Its been 20 years and absolutely nothing related to autism care has changed. Children are screened for scoliosis and eye glasses but not autism? That's pretty anti-science.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two ASD kids and one who is not and that is the one pregnancy during which I took a considerable amount of Tylenol. Also if you look at DH’s family tree, it’s easy to see where the autism came from. It will be generations before we emerge from this nonsensical misinformation.

This. My kid is ASD and I took no Tylenol. Meanwhile, my BIL is clearly ASD and DH has also been diagnosed since our child was diagnosed.

Does not stop my MIL from blaming it on my age when I had DD.

If people can find a way to blame a mother for something, they will. Always.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And trump will be pushing a drug to cure it. Ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. It’s downright rude.

The "drug" is a vitamin that can't be patented. If it helps kids with autism what's the problem?
Oh, because everything done under this admin is bad by default. Of course.

It is a prescription formulation, Teva pharmaceuticals. Rx only because it can be toxic, among other things. I can’t trust anything this administration does in area of science, trump does everything in his power to assassinate science and make USA as sick as possible. He’s taking advantage of parents who want the best for their children, selling snake oil.

DP. This is full of misinformation. The studies about leucovorin have preceded Trump by decades. There are so many things to be worried about with Trump but this is not the hill to die on. I think the biggest risk is how they handle health data for people with disabilities.

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Sorry but how are moms getting politics in the way of helping there kids?

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Anonymous wrote:I have two ASD kids and one who is not and that is the one pregnancy during which I took a considerable amount of Tylenol. Also if you look at DH’s family tree, it’s easy to see where the autism came from. It will be generations before we emerge from this nonsensical misinformation.

This. My kid is ASD and I took no Tylenol. Meanwhile, my BIL is clearly ASD and DH has also been diagnosed since our child was diagnosed.

Does not stop my MIL from blaming it on my age when I had DD.

If people can find a way to blame a mother for something, they will. Always.

Epigenetic vs genetic. If Tylenol worsened the autistic symptoms in some children because their mother was encouraged to take as much Tylenol as they wanted during fetal brain stem development, that doesnt mean anyone is a bad mother. It means the pediatrician associations that are supposed to make good decisions, have a very long history of making very flawed ones.

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It's because you sinned. Mothers with autistic children incurred God's wrath.

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