Rattled by a friend’s comment- what did she really mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a "woke" town before that was really a thing and it could be a lot sometimes. I'm liberal, anti -Trump but sometimes I roll my eyes at the extreme people go to. I wouldn't think too much about it without asking her what she means.

Same. Plenty of liberals and anti-Trump people are also sick of the "woke" stuff. Language policing, cancel culture. virtue signaling. Usually dripping with condescending and judgment. It's the how some liberals go about it, not the underlying positions.

If you were actually against this, you'd know repubs are the biggest cancel culture folks. Bud light anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a "woke" town before that was really a thing and it could be a lot sometimes. I'm liberal, anti -Trump but sometimes I roll my eyes at the extreme people go to. I wouldn't think too much about it without asking her what she means.

This. You can be liberal and still also find certain "woke" politics and behavior to be obnoxious.

If the two parties are now MAGA and "woke" then we are really, really screwed.

My god yes. Where are the normal people. I can't stand it.

“Normal people” are locked out of primaries if they’re registered as independent. This means that partisans in both parties get to keep pushing their party further from the center. We need open primaries. Ranked-choice voting and neutral systems for drawing non-gerrymandered districts are also steps we should take, but starting with open primaries would make a huge difference.

[Anonymous]

She sounds MAGA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a "woke" town before that was really a thing and it could be a lot sometimes. I'm liberal, anti -Trump but sometimes I roll my eyes at the extreme people go to. I wouldn't think too much about it without asking her what she means.

Same. Plenty of liberals and anti-Trump people are also sick of the "woke" stuff. Language policing, cancel culture. virtue signaling. Usually dripping with condescending and judgment. It's the how some liberals go about it, not the underlying positions.

Ok…OP here but again, we basically lived in a bland little bubble where I can’t imagine it was more or less “woke” than where she moved back to. That’s why I’m so baffled by her comment.

I guess it might be what others said and a sort of testing of the waters to see how I feel about things. I didn’t reply because I was so startled by the comment and the kids came up to us with some kind of elaborate demand so there wasn’t room to continue the conversation anyway.

Or perhaps take it at face value. There may be "woke" situations that occur every day which you participate in without even realizing it, and she is happy to be away from them.

I used to live in an uber progressive neighborhood that was just too much. But other people living there loved having BLM, Pride, Diwali, Kwanza, eat the rich parades every other weekend, even though 90% of them were white heterosexuals with mid 6 figure incomes.

It was exhausting to me. But you may find it fits perfectly for you. Both are okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in Maryland near a friend. Then we both relocated to the west coast and ended up in the same neighborhood and our kids went to the same private school. Yay! While our west coast city was pretty different than the east coast, it wasn’t Portland or somewhere like that and I would say most people cared less about politics than money, real estate and home renovations, for better or for worse. Our school stayed out of the fray save for raising money for financial aid and celebrating the holidays of the cultures of all of the families in attendance. Our school community was very diverse, and my own family is mixed- I am white and DH is Asian.

Friend moved away last year. Then came to visit and we were chatting and I asked what she missed. She said “not the woke stuff”.

I’m feeling really weird about that and am extrapolating all sorts of things. I know it gets tossed around on the internet and fox news but I’ve never heard someone use it in conversation.

Do you suffer from Anxiety, OP?

[Anonymous]

Oh dear. Maybe time to end rhis friendship, sounds like they are showing you their true self. Sorry. Good thing they moved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She sounds MAGA.

You know? Your post inspires me to create an s/o on what you are doing to your poor kids.

[Anonymous]

I’m a progressive, OP, but I don’t appreciate the woke stuff either. I know that’s a loaded word and can lean different things to different people.

For me it means doing performative actions that supposedly help minorities, to the detriment of actual quality of education/work/services, all the while not really moving the needle on what has been PROVEN to help minorities and the poor, which are tailored economic measures, expanding access to and reducing cost of healthcare, reducing daycare costs, cleaning up air, water and soil pollution (which always impact poor communities more), etc.

The talk is exhausting and divisive, when concrete economic measures can be discreet and also very popular and bipartisan.

So. Here we are.

[Anonymous]

When you don't understand what someone means, you need to ask them to clarify.

[Anonymous]

Independents can vote in VA primaries

[Anonymous]

Wokeness is the ideology of racial separatism and hate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a "woke" town before that was really a thing and it could be a lot sometimes. I'm liberal, anti -Trump but sometimes I roll my eyes at the extreme people go to. I wouldn't think too much about it without asking her what she means.

Same. Plenty of liberals and anti-Trump people are also sick of the "woke" stuff. Language policing, cancel culture. virtue signaling. Usually dripping with condescending and judgment. It's the how some liberals go about it, not the underlying positions.

If you were actually against this, you'd know repubs are the biggest cancel culture folks. Bud light anyone?

Sydney Sweeny Good Jeans ring a bell? Progressives are trying to cancel her commercials, herself, and her Nazi dog! Love how progressives have learned how to win back the male vote.

[Anonymous]

Grow a thicker skin (you're "rattled", seriously?) and agree to disagree re: politics.

You guys have been friends forever with, presumably a lot of ups/downs over the decades as typical friendships endure, so just roll with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a "woke" town before that was really a thing and it could be a lot sometimes. I'm liberal, anti -Trump but sometimes I roll my eyes at the extreme people go to. I wouldn't think too much about it without asking her what she means.

This. You can be liberal and still also find certain "woke" politics and behavior to be obnoxious.

If the two parties are now MAGA and "woke" then we are really, really screwed.

If you're not with us you're against us is the law of the land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a "woke" town before that was really a thing and it could be a lot sometimes. I'm liberal, anti -Trump but sometimes I roll my eyes at the extreme people go to. I wouldn't think too much about it without asking her what she means.

Same. Plenty of liberals and anti-Trump people are also sick of the "woke" stuff. Language policing, cancel culture. virtue signaling. Usually dripping with condescending and judgment. It's the how some liberals go about it, not the underlying positions.

If you were actually against this, you'd know repubs are the biggest cancel culture folks. Bud light anyone?

Sydney Sweeny Good Jeans ring a bell? Progressives are trying to cancel her commercials, herself, and her Nazi dog! Love how progressives have learned how to win back the male vote.

I think this whole outrage was manufactured by the republicans. Even they didn't care about Sydney Sweeney until the ads. The week prior they were calling her a man