Eastern HS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

enjoy Fairfax County. meanwhile the rest of us will have an actual discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Weird that it only seems to impact Eastern, Dunbar and Ballou. I guess your argument is that Eastern kids take more advanced math than JR, Banneker, SWW and BASIS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.

Well, I think the difference is that the Titanic sunk, whereas Eastern has been doing about like this for many years and is likely to continue. I do not think it's headed for closure. That's not how this works. If anything, it may be slightly improving.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.

I don’t think people are arguing that 1% is good enough. This sidetracked tangent got off bc somebody noticed that some comments were deleted while others weren’t. The sinking ship comment may have alluded to the principal leaving, but that’s not the case here. Definitely areas for growth, all that has been said here on the other side of the conversation is examples of families that are there right now and are having a good experience. Doesn’t mean the test scores can’t go up, just means adults can have a more nuanced conversation instead of a test scores based fight on every thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.

I don’t think people are arguing that 1% is good enough. This sidetracked tangent got off bc somebody noticed that some comments were deleted while others weren’t. The sinking ship comment may have alluded to the principal leaving, but that’s not the case here. Definitely areas for growth, all that has been said here on the other side of the conversation is examples of families that are there right now and are having a good experience. Doesn’t mean the test scores can’t go up, just means adults can have a more nuanced conversation instead of a test scores based fight on every thread.

Agree on most of that but not on the need for "nuance" re: test scores. 1% is 1%. And it is very, very bad. It requires wholesale changes and course correction. It does no one any favors to give lip service to the idea that somehow the indicators don't tell the story they do.

I also object to the premise that the problem all these years has been the principals. Are we all just waiting for Joe Carter? The problem with Eastern/Ballou/Dunbar is structural and extends beyond DCPS Central to DC at large. It cannot be solved by one principal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.

Well, I think the difference is that the Titanic sunk, whereas Eastern has been doing about like this for many years and is likely to continue. I do not think it's headed for closure. That's not how this works. If anything, it may be slightly improving.

Eastern may have survived but the generations of uneducated, unprepared kids that "graduated" are mostly sunk. We have failed them. This idea that 6 kids got an IB degree so everything is fine is so very DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.

Well, I think the difference is that the Titanic sunk, whereas Eastern has been doing about like this for many years and is likely to continue. I do not think it's headed for closure. That's not how this works. If anything, it may be slightly improving.

Eastern may have survived but the generations of uneducated, unprepared kids that "graduated" are mostly sunk. We have failed them. This idea that 6 kids got an IB degree so everything is fine is so very DCUM.

Nobody is saying it's fine. But it's not headed towards closure, and it *may* be very slowly improving. That's all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.

You’ll never be satisfied so there’s no point discussing it with you. You’re probably on other threads bashing Banneker, McKinley and JR. It’s not for you fine, go away.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.

Well, I think the difference is that the Titanic sunk, whereas Eastern has been doing about like this for many years and is likely to continue. I do not think it's headed for closure. That's not how this works. If anything, it may be slightly improving.

Eastern may have survived but the generations of uneducated, unprepared kids that "graduated" are mostly sunk. We have failed them. This idea that 6 kids got an IB degree so everything is fine is so very DCUM.

get it through your skull and go away: it is possible to both give a school like Eastern some consideration for your college bound kid, and also want schooling to improve for all kids at Eastern.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?

+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.

Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.

Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.

1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.

I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?

Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.

I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.

Well, I think the difference is that the Titanic sunk, whereas Eastern has been doing about like this for many years and is likely to continue. I do not think it's headed for closure. That's not how this works. If anything, it may be slightly improving.

Eastern may have survived but the generations of uneducated, unprepared kids that "graduated" are mostly sunk. We have failed them. This idea that 6 kids got an IB degree so everything is fine is so very DCUM.

get it through your skull and go away: it is possible to both give a school like Eastern some consideration for your college bound kid, and also want schooling to improve for all kids at Eastern.

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And I don’t think anyone is thinking a principal can magically solve anything, but I do think strong leadership does help a school. As does increased enrollment which leads to increased funding, and increased neighborhood buy in. Both of those things have happened at several DCPS middle schools, and there are more kids in upper grades DCPS than there has been in decades, so it is starting to trickle up to high schools.

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I wish they would be way more transparent about admissions and performance of the IB program. Maybe it's great! But there are numbers that exist that could be easily used to show this, if it's actually the case.