Eastern HS

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would be way more transparent about admissions and performance of the IB program. Maybe it's great! But there are numbers that exist that could be easily used to show this, if it's actually the case.


Well, clearly it's not great if 1% of the kids are passing the math CAPE. But yes, more information would be lovely.
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Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?


+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.


Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.


Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.


1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.


I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?


Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.


I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.


Well, I think the difference is that the Titanic sunk, whereas Eastern has been doing about like this for many years and is likely to continue. I do not think it's headed for closure. That's not how this works. If anything, it may be slightly improving.


Eastern may have survived but the generations of uneducated, unprepared kids that "graduated" are mostly sunk. We have failed them. This idea that 6 kids got an IB degree so everything is fine is so very DCUM.


get it through your skull and go away: it is possible to both give a school like Eastern some consideration for your college bound kid, and also want schooling to improve for all kids at Eastern.


Why would you send your college bound kid to a school where 99 out of 100 kids are below grade level and 1 of every 2 are way below grade level? Why do you think yelling at people who say "not for me without major change" is a recipe for success? The data says what it say. Sticking your head in the sand and name calling and lecturing on why up is down and black is white will not solve the problem.
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Anonymous wrote:why are relevant posts getting deleted from this thread?


+1 I was going to ask the same thing. I understand there is some sort of moderation on this site, but none of the comments on this thread seemed off topic or inappropriate.


Maybe it was Banneker bashing. hating on Banneker is unfortunately something that happens here.


Interesting, I didn't see any bashing Banneker - but the one that alludes to Eastern being a 'sinking ship' like the Titanic is still on the page --

Anyway - I know a few families in the EPIC program who have been happy with the classes and the teachers thus far. I forget the number of kids the principal said were in the program this current school year, but it had grown since the prior years, and they were planning capacity for it to continue to grow. Hopefully with the transition in leadership they can continue the momentum and not have to re-start or change too many things.


1% at grade level in math on CAPE. 90% way below (scoring 1 or 2). 15% at grade level in English 77% way below. You wanna argue the school is succeeding and not (at best) treading water? I'm all ears.


I think the comment was in response to certain post being deleted, not arguing test scores. Everyone is allowed their own opinion, but it is helpful to have these conversations.
Separately, hasn’t it been discussed on here a bunch that high school math scores in general get skewed because some of the higher performing cohorts take high school level classes in middle school instead of high school?


Yes, but still, 1% of students passing any math test is very low.


I'm the person who made the Titanic post. You would think 1% passing would be a flashing red sign indicating a problem. But this is DC and this is DCUM. Any sincere effort to improve Eastern and attract higher performing cohorts starts with an acknowledgement that the current state is unacceptable and represents failure. But the usual suspects aren't gonna do that. They will argue with a straight face that 1% isn't really 1%. That somehow the data for Eastern is wrong or skewed (but not at Banneker? Or Walls?). They will attack anyone who dares suggest the ship is sinking.

If I may extend my metaphor, this would be a maritime experts (or anyone with eyes and a brain) suggesting that the navigation system is going haywire, the boat is headed for an iceberg and dramatic course correction is necessary for survival. DCUM is here to argue that the iceberg just looks close because of solar glare. Solar glare that only exists for their boat.


Well, I think the difference is that the Titanic sunk, whereas Eastern has been doing about like this for many years and is likely to continue. I do not think it's headed for closure. That's not how this works. If anything, it may be slightly improving.


Eastern may have survived but the generations of uneducated, unprepared kids that "graduated" are mostly sunk. We have failed them. This idea that 6 kids got an IB degree so everything is fine is so very DCUM.


get it through your skull and go away: it is possible to both give a school like Eastern some consideration for your college bound kid, and also want schooling to improve for all kids at Eastern.


Why would you send your college bound kid to a school where 99 out of 100 kids are below grade level and 1 of every 2 are way below grade level? Why do you think yelling at people who say "not for me without major change" is a recipe for success? The data says what it say. Sticking your head in the sand and name calling and lecturing on why up is down and black is white will not solve the problem.


Neither will repeating over and over that Eastern has bad test scores solve anything.
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Eastern could fill some of those 9th-grade lottery seats that are open this summer and raise their test scores in the process if they just said the words "any kid with at grade level PARCC scores can get into our IB program, and you will only be in classes with other kids at or above grade level." It's not complicated at all.
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Anonymous wrote:Eastern could fill some of those 9th-grade lottery seats that are open this summer and raise their test scores in the process if they just said the words "any kid with at grade level PARCC scores can get into our IB program, and you will only be in classes with other kids at or above grade level." It's not complicated at all.



LOL! Are you new to DC? Because no way is that happening in DCPS. They are going in the opposite direction, just look at JR and honors for all.

Equity is lowering standards and lowering the potential of the top. The end.
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Anonymous wrote:Eastern could fill some of those 9th-grade lottery seats that are open this summer and raise their test scores in the process if they just said the words "any kid with at grade level PARCC scores can get into our IB program, and you will only be in classes with other kids at or above grade level." It's not complicated at all.



LOL! Are you new to DC? Because no way is that happening in DCPS. They are going in the opposite direction, just look at JR and honors for all.

Equity is lowering standards and lowering the potential of the top. The end.


That is absolutely happening in DCPS, right now. Look at the Early College program at Coolidge. Look at the IB cohort at Banneker. Both are separate honors groups within larger schools, and both are by application only.
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Anonymous wrote:Eastern could fill some of those 9th-grade lottery seats that are open this summer and raise their test scores in the process if they just said the words "any kid with at grade level PARCC scores can get into our IB program, and you will only be in classes with other kids at or above grade level." It's not complicated at all.



LOL! Are you new to DC? Because no way is that happening in DCPS. They are going in the opposite direction, just look at JR and honors for all.

Equity is lowering standards and lowering the potential of the top. The end.


There actually is an honors program at eastern.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would be way more transparent about admissions and performance of the IB program. Maybe it's great! But there are numbers that exist that could be easily used to show this, if it's actually the case.


Well, clearly it's not great if 1% of the kids are passing the math CAPE. But yes, more information would be lovely.


If the 1% is the IB program students, then that’s fine. Your kid will be in the group of kids that are actually learning.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would be way more transparent about admissions and performance of the IB program. Maybe it's great! But there are numbers that exist that could be easily used to show this, if it's actually the case.


I think if you go to the school and ask about the IB program, you’ll get more transparency.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would be way more transparent about admissions and performance of the IB program. Maybe it's great! But there are numbers that exist that could be easily used to show this, if it's actually the case.


I think if you go to the school and ask about the IB program, you’ll get more transparency.


I think "transparency" doesn't mean what you think it means...

But you've illustrated the problem with DCPS's relationship to equity. Eastern should have a robust online presence and lots of info about the IB program, application/admissions, etc. It should be designed to market the program to attract high performing kids. But sadly in the current climate that would be a violation of the perversion of "equity". The program needs to be secret and for sure they can't market it in a way to [GASP] attract high performing kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Eastern could fill some of those 9th-grade lottery seats that are open this summer and raise their test scores in the process if they just said the words "any kid with at grade level PARCC scores can get into our IB program, and you will only be in classes with other kids at or above grade level." It's not complicated at all.



LOL! Are you new to DC? Because no way is that happening in DCPS. They are going in the opposite direction, just look at JR and honors for all.

Equity is lowering standards and lowering the potential of the top. The end.


There actually is an honors program at eastern.


LMAO
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would be way more transparent about admissions and performance of the IB program. Maybe it's great! But there are numbers that exist that could be easily used to show this, if it's actually the case.


I think if you go to the school and ask about the IB program, you’ll get more transparency.


I think "transparency" doesn't mean what you think it means...

But you've illustrated the problem with DCPS's relationship to equity. Eastern should have a robust online presence and lots of info about the IB program, application/admissions, etc. It should be designed to market the program to attract high performing kids. But sadly in the current climate that would be a violation of the perversion of "equity". The program needs to be secret and for sure they can't market it in a way to [GASP] attract high performing kids.


There is a lot of info on the Eastern website about the EPIC Program, MYP, IB, etc, including timelines and application processes. You can also follow their IB program on Instagram, which I’ve found informative.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would be way more transparent about admissions and performance of the IB program. Maybe it's great! But there are numbers that exist that could be easily used to show this, if it's actually the case.


I think if you go to the school and ask about the IB program, you’ll get more transparency.


I think "transparency" doesn't mean what you think it means...

But you've illustrated the problem with DCPS's relationship to equity. Eastern should have a robust online presence and lots of info about the IB program, application/admissions, etc. It should be designed to market the program to attract high performing kids. But sadly in the current climate that would be a violation of the perversion of "equity". The program needs to be secret and for sure they can't market it in a way to [GASP] attract high performing kids.


There is a lot of info on the Eastern website about the EPIC Program, MYP, IB, etc, including timelines and application processes. You can also follow their IB program on Instagram, which I’ve found informative.


None of it lets you tell if your at or above grade level kid will get in or whether, if they do, that's who they'll be in classes with.
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Anonymous wrote:Eastern could fill some of those 9th-grade lottery seats that are open this summer and raise their test scores in the process if they just said the words "any kid with at grade level PARCC scores can get into our IB program, and you will only be in classes with other kids at or above grade level." It's not complicated at all.



LOL! Are you new to DC? Because no way is that happening in DCPS. They are going in the opposite direction, just look at JR and honors for all.

Equity is lowering standards and lowering the potential of the top. The end.


There actually is an honors program at eastern.


LMAO



+1. In name only. That’s the reality. You can name any course you want, honors, IB or what not but what are the results?

You actually think the kids in these programs are getting 4 and 5 on AP testing or even just passing which is a low bar or even getting the IB diploma let alone doing well and scoring high.

Come on people. Common sense. The school can’t even get the kids on grade level
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Anonymous wrote:Eastern could fill some of those 9th-grade lottery seats that are open this summer and raise their test scores in the process if they just said the words "any kid with at grade level PARCC scores can get into our IB program, and you will only be in classes with other kids at or above grade level." It's not complicated at all.



LOL! Are you new to DC? Because no way is that happening in DCPS. They are going in the opposite direction, just look at JR and honors for all.

Equity is lowering standards and lowering the potential of the top. The end.


That is absolutely happening in DCPS, right now. Look at the Early College program at Coolidge. Look at the IB cohort at Banneker. Both are separate honors groups within larger schools, and both are by application only.


Not based on whether you're at grade level.
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