Grandparents pretty much declared MAGA comes first

[Anonymous]

My parents are trumpets and the thing that gets me is they actually believe DOGE is going to work, that it's actually going to balance the budget, its a necessary evil, and it's not a problem since "other people" got fired.

[Anonymous]

Low contact. I wouldn’t make any plans with them for the foreseeable future. Holidays included. Enjoy your peace with your immediate family and other supportive people. No need to give maga AHs the time of day.

[Anonymous]

It’s so sad that the elderly MAGA won’t have to live through the full ramifications of their choices, but their children, and especially their grandchildren and future generations will. These elderly folks got to be raised in a world where their elders defeated fascism and held public officials to some standards. The US had the fairness doctrine and everyone consumed the same news sources. The American public benefited from a shared set of facts. We weren’t confined to echo chambers, and whacko fringe conspiracists didn’t have a platform to broadcast their beliefs far and wide and find each other. The Chinese and the Russians couldn’t manipulate Americans into tribalistic conflict quite so easily. We agreed on who our enemies were. With the advancements in AI, we don’t even know for sure what’s real versus fake now. Progress has allowed us to fly too close to the sun.

[Anonymous]

Just ignore them and make your own holiday traditions.
If they ask say you made other plans.
Repeat.

[Anonymous]

Don’t discuss politics with them. Ignore any texts or social media posts about politics. If they bring it up on the phone or in person, tell them you do not want to discuss politics. If they bring it up a 2nd time, hang up and/or leave. If that doesn’t work after the first 1-2x of being firm, then see them much less often. If they ask why, tell them why.

It is not worth harming family relationship over politics. That being said, if they can’t respect your boundaries as above, that is their choice (and they will be the ones who have full responsibility for harming the relationship, and you can have a clear conscience knowing you tried your best).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like you're part of the problem. Why are you going on about that you "might" loose your job? Are you also having conversations that you "might" have a car accident? Drown? Get attacked by a pit bull? Once something happens, you deal with it. You seem to have TDS. What do you expect them to say? The government has grown too big and there're too many people on the payroll who are not needed and continue to "work from home". We've run out of money a long time ago. If you do loose your job, you'll have to look for another one just like other people who are not employed by the government and who loose their jobs. You're not special.

You’d be making a good point if the reduction in the fed workforce was happening with precision, based on real data, but its been indiscriminately carried out by people who don’t actually know what the affected fed employees do or what the real world impact will be from eliminating their positions. Moreover, the very people who are orchestrating these workforce reductions have long had the goal of dismantling the fed government. Their goal is to render certain parts of the federal government non functional, not to make them function more efficiently. They’re FA and all of us are going to FO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like you're part of the problem. Why are you going on about that you "might" loose your job? Are you also having conversations that you "might" have a car accident? Drown? Get attacked by a pit bull? Once something happens, you deal with it. You seem to have TDS. What do you expect them to say? The government has grown too big and there're too many people on the payroll who are not needed and continue to "work from home". We've run out of money a long time ago. If you do loose your job, you'll have to look for another one just like other people who are not employed by the government and who loose their jobs. You're not special.

it’s LOSE for God’s sake LOSE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like you're part of the problem. Why are you going on about that you "might" loose your job? Are you also having conversations that you "might" have a car accident? Drown? Get attacked by a pit bull? Once something happens, you deal with it. You seem to have TDS. What do you expect them to say? The government has grown too big and there're too many people on the payroll who are not needed and continue to "work from home". We've run out of money a long time ago. If you do loose your job, you'll have to look for another one just like other people who are not employed by the government and who loose their jobs. You're not special.

it’s LOSE for God’s sake LOSE

+1. Thank you. Amazing how many posters get this wrong.

OP you need to listen to them. You might learn something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like you're part of the problem. Why are you going on about that you "might" loose your job? Are you also having conversations that you "might" have a car accident? Drown? Get attacked by a pit bull? Once something happens, you deal with it. You seem to have TDS. What do you expect them to say? The government has grown too big and there're too many people on the payroll who are not needed and continue to "work from home". We've run out of money a long time ago. If you do loose your job, you'll have to look for another one just like other people who are not employed by the government and who loose their jobs. You're not special.

MAGA really needs to stop with the trope that DOGE is needed to cut government spending when the "Big Beautiful Bill" passed by the GOP house yesterday adds $2.3 trillion to the national debt.

[Anonymous]

Then that is that. Just distance yourself and for gods sake keep the kids away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like you're part of the problem. Why are you going on about that you "might" loose your job? Are you also having conversations that you "might" have a car accident? Drown? Get attacked by a pit bull? Once something happens, you deal with it. You seem to have TDS. What do you expect them to say? The government has grown too big and there're too many people on the payroll who are not needed and continue to "work from home". We've run out of money a long time ago. If you do loose your job, you'll have to look for another one just like other people who are not employed by the government and who loose their jobs. You're not special.

Bless your heart.

[Anonymous]

Stop talking and emailing about politics. Shut it down. When they want to talk about politics, you leave their house, or stop the phone call right there.

[Anonymous]

Why are you having these conversations with your parents over email?

[Anonymous]

You’re just as much a problem in this.

Stop talking politics with them.

[Anonymous]

I would focus on their source of news. They are not unreasonable people, they just don't have the right info. So I would gently remind them, at opportunities that seem propitious, that the places they get news from are not providing them with a certain number of crucial facts, and that this unfortunately makes them conclude the wrong things.

You want to shift the blame to something other than themselves, otherwise you'll never turn them. Mirror back to them that they are rational individuals who sadly put their trust in the wrong media. Do not imply that any media has all the facts or that your side is better. But go in the direction that, if everyone had the full set of data, everyone could have a truly informed opinion. Mention that you yourself make a point of looking at news from all the political spectrum, and that's why you are able to come to a different conclusion.

That's if your parents aren't too stupid or too far gone cognitively. If they are, then all you do is gently fade away. You are absolved from guilt when they need your help and you only choose to do what you're comfortable with.