Colorado Transgender Bill Passes House

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Republicans favor child abuse.

It would be legal to beat your children, regardless of gender, if Republicans were in charge.


Spanking is legal in blue and red states.fyi
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the kind of thing that drove moderates to the right in the last election.


+ 1 million
Anonymous
CBS is junk news site

Here's the bill:

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1312

Bill Summary

Section 1 of the bill creates the "Kelly Loving Act". Section 2 provides that, when making child custody decisions and determining the best interests of a child for purposes of parenting time, a court shall consider deadnaming, misgendering, or threatening to publish material related to an individual's gender-affirming health-care services as types of coercive control. A court shall consider reports of coercive control when determining the allocation of parental responsibilities in accordance with the best interests of the child. Section 3 prohibits a Colorado court from applying or giving any force or effect to another state's law that authorizes a state agency to remove a child from the child's parent or guardian because the parent or guardian allowed the child to receive gender-affirming health-care services


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Funny how the Republican view of "parental rights" only refers to the parent that the Republican agrees with.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CBS is junk news site

Here's the bill:

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1312

Bill Summary

Section 1 of the bill creates the "Kelly Loving Act". Section 2 provides that, when making child custody decisions and determining the best interests of a child for purposes of parenting time, a court shall consider deadnaming, misgendering, or threatening to publish material related to an individual's gender-affirming health-care services as types of coercive control. A court shall consider reports of coercive control when determining the allocation of parental responsibilities in accordance with the best interests of the child. Section 3 prohibits a Colorado court from applying or giving any force or effect to another state's law that authorizes a state agency to remove a child from the child's parent or guardian because the parent or guardian allowed the child to receive gender-affirming health-care services


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Funny how the Republican view of "parental rights" only refers to the parent that the Republican agrees with.


Believing that parents should lose their children for using their given names is why the popularity of Democrats is declining.
Anonymous
Horrible bill. And, I agree that it will push people further right.

The idea that a parent can lose custody or be prosecuted for not affirming a biological impossibility is insane.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CBS is junk news site

Here's the bill:

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1312

Bill Summary

Section 1 of the bill creates the "Kelly Loving Act". Section 2 provides that, when making child custody decisions and determining the best interests of a child for purposes of parenting time, a court shall consider deadnaming, misgendering, or threatening to publish material related to an individual's gender-affirming health-care services as types of coercive control. A court shall consider reports of coercive control when determining the allocation of parental responsibilities in accordance with the best interests of the child. Section 3 prohibits a Colorado court from applying or giving any force or effect to another state's law that authorizes a state agency to remove a child from the child's parent or guardian because the parent or guardian allowed the child to receive gender-affirming health-care services


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Funny how the Republican view of "parental rights" only refers to the parent that the Republican agrees with.


Does "deadnaming" in this bill include the use of a child's legal name? What about accidental "deadnaming" or "misgendering" out of habit? If my daughter tells me she is a "they/them" whose name is now Larlx, and I forget and use she/her or Larla, does that really mean I'm not a fit parent and shouldn't get time with my child? This seems unduly punitive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/misgendering-colorado-transgender-rights-bill-impact-child-custody-cases/


I see there are protections for transgender people in this bill that are positive. But NO WAY should the state be able to forcibly remove your custody of your children. If they feel you don’t affirm their gender identity, it’s child abuse. What about kids who may be confused and need professional help to work through if they truly feel that way.


The bill summary does NOT say this, and Jarvis mischaracterized the bill. What it says:

Section 2 provides that, when making child custody decisions and determining the best interests of a child for purposes of parenting time, a court shall consider deadnaming, misgendering, or threatening to publish material related to an individual's gender-affirming health-care services as types of coercive control. A court shall consider reports of coercive control when determining the allocation of parental responsibilities in accordance with the best interests of the child.

That's not alleging abuse. That simply puts this into the context of best interests, which is inherently broad.
Coercive control can be expressed in all manner of ways.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Horrible bill. And, I agree that it will push people further right.

The idea that a parent can lose custody or be prosecuted for not affirming a biological impossibility is insane.


Where does it make it a criminal offense?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/misgendering-colorado-transgender-rights-bill-impact-child-custody-cases/


I see there are protections for transgender people in this bill that are positive. But NO WAY should the state be able to forcibly remove your custody of your children. If they feel you don’t affirm their gender identity, it’s child abuse. What about kids who may be confused and need professional help to work through if they truly feel that way.


The bill summary does NOT say this, and Jarvis mischaracterized the bill. What it says:

Section 2 provides that, when making child custody decisions and determining the best interests of a child for purposes of parenting time, a court shall consider deadnaming, misgendering, or threatening to publish material related to an individual's gender-affirming health-care services as types of coercive control. A court shall consider reports of coercive control when determining the allocation of parental responsibilities in accordance with the best interests of the child.

That's not alleging abuse. That simply puts this into the context of best interests, which is inherently broad.
Coercive control can be expressed in all manner of ways.



Blah. Bkah. Blah. Most American voters will react to this bill with disgust. They won't waste time parsing words. 2
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/misgendering-colorado-transgender-rights-bill-impact-child-custody-cases/


I see there are protections for transgender people in this bill that are positive. But NO WAY should the state be able to forcibly remove your custody of your children. If they feel you don’t affirm their gender identity, it’s child abuse. What about kids who may be confused and need professional help to work through if they truly feel that way.


Where did it say that? Only that it would be considered in custody cases. That's not removing custody from parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/misgendering-colorado-transgender-rights-bill-impact-child-custody-cases/


I see there are protections for transgender people in this bill that are positive. But NO WAY should the state be able to forcibly remove your custody of your children. If they feel you don’t affirm their gender identity, it’s child abuse. What about kids who may be confused and need professional help to work through if they truly feel that way.


The bill summary does NOT say this, and Jarvis mischaracterized the bill. What it says:

Section 2 provides that, when making child custody decisions and determining the best interests of a child for purposes of parenting time, a court shall consider deadnaming, misgendering, or threatening to publish material related to an individual's gender-affirming health-care services as types of coercive control. A court shall consider reports of coercive control when determining the allocation of parental responsibilities in accordance with the best interests of the child.

That's not alleging abuse. That simply puts this into the context of best interests, which is inherently broad.
Coercive control can be expressed in all manner of ways.



Good grief.
Then, there is this.... "A court shall consider reports of coercive control when determining the allocation of parental responsibilities in accordance with the best interests of the child."

So, a parent can lose custody because he or she believes in science. Ridiculous.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I support this bill because mentally ill, fascist power grabs like these by the transgender lobby will guarantee that the tide which has turned into a massive backlash completely stamps out the whole movement.

Good job, trans "women" and allies! Keep trans madness in the news and keep doing your part to expose yourselves as a dangerous threat to civilization.


This is so desperate it is almost unbelievable. Give it up. It was a total myth that trans issues are what swing the election, but bigots like you have to keep bleating so the other side believes it and you cna try to compel them to act differently.

Don't fall for it folks and do not fall for the misrepresentations of what this bill actually does.

Sure. Anyway, I support all the bills you want to see introduced on behalf of trans people. Keep them coming.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This suicide myth needs to stop.


Youth suicide rates are at historic highs. All this acceptance should have led to a dramatic decline. It's almost like this stuff isn't helping, and it is in fact hurting the kids it purports to help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/misgendering-colorado-transgender-rights-bill-impact-child-custody-cases/


I see there are protections for transgender people in this bill that are positive. But NO WAY should the state be able to forcibly remove your custody of your children. If they feel you don’t affirm their gender identity, it’s child abuse. What about kids who may be confused and need professional help to work through if they truly feel that way.


The bill summary does NOT say this, and Jarvis mischaracterized the bill. What it says:

Section 2 provides that, when making child custody decisions and determining the best interests of a child for purposes of parenting time, a court shall consider deadnaming, misgendering, or threatening to publish material related to an individual's gender-affirming health-care services as types of coercive control. A court shall consider reports of coercive control when determining the allocation of parental responsibilities in accordance with the best interests of the child.

That's not alleging abuse. That simply puts this into the context of best interests, which is inherently broad.
Coercive control can be expressed in all manner of ways.



Here is how the CO bill defines coercive control. They equate it to child abuse. Tell me that no parent will lose custody or be prosecuted for this.....


"Coercive control" means a pattern of threatening, humiliating, or intimidating actions, including assaults or other abuse, that is used to harm, punish, or frighten an individual. "Coercive control" includes a
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1 pattern of behavior that takes away the individual's liberty or freedom and
2 strips away the individual's sense of self, including the individual's bodily
3 integrity and human rights. "Coercive control" includes isolating the
4 individual from support, exploiting the individual, depriving the
5 individual of independence, and regulating the individual's everyday
6 behavior. "Coercive control" includes, but is not limited to, any of the
7 following:
8 (VIII) Threatening to publish the individual's, or the individual's
9 child's or relative's, sensitive personal information, including sexually
10 explicit material OR MATERIAL RELATED TO GENDER-AFFIRMING
11 HEALTH-CARE SERVICES, AS DEFINED IN SECTION 12-30-121 (1)(c), or
12 make reports to the police or authorities;
13 (X) Threatening the individual, or the individual's child or
14 relative, with deportation or contacting authorities based on perceived or
15 actual immigration status, withholding essential documents required for
16 immigration, or threatening to withdraw or interfere with an active
17 immigration application or process; or
18 (XI) Forcing the individual, or the individual's child or relative,
19 to take part in criminal activities or child abuse; OR
20 (XII) DEADNAMING OR MISGENDERING, AS THOSE TERMS ARE
21 DEFINED IN SECTION 24-34-301, THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE INDIVIDUAL'S
22 CHILD OR RELATIVE.

https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2025A/bills/2025a_1312_ren.pdf
Anonymous
Colorado just got a lot more appealing to those fleeing red states with trans kids.

I know of 2 families who moved from the US to Canada because of their trans kids. One is open to the idea of coming back to a safe space state but the other is 100% against ever coming back.

I don't understand the Right's fascination with trans people. How are they harming them? And don't feed me that BS about safety in bathrooms. No one watches anyone else pee. If men are that insecure then they need to stop making men's bathrooms with urinals. Only have stalled toilets and that takes care of that problem.

I've never felt threatened or scared by a trans or LGBQ person. I have felt scared of a cis white male and been threatened by a few as well.
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