NIH wades into foreign affairs

[Anonymous]

University DEI programs were adopted through cajoling of Biden Administration, which started OCR investigations into universities. Trump should be able to reverse this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:University DEI programs were adopted through cajoling of Biden Administration, which started OCR investigations into universities. Trump should be able to reverse this.

yes

excellent news

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit.

Not true at all. We do not want all the career people to leave. That would be worse for the American people than what we have now.

But you can all strike. Apparently 3% of the population needs to do this to make the regime fall. There’s info on IG, but can’t remember what it’s called.

If we strike, our patients suffer, and our decades-long investments in biomedical research are destroyed. Again, the work done at NIH can’t just be shut down on a whim or picked up by some random replacement - it doesn’t work like that.

Then you're complicit. Can't have it both ways. Resist or be complicit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not NIH. It’s the administration. I work there and it sucks for us too. If I could leave I think I would. We’ve been taken over.

Please call it the Trump regime. It’s not an administration. They are not operating within our constitutional system.

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit.

Not true at all. We do not want all the career people to leave. That would be worse for the American people than what we have now.

But you can all strike. Apparently 3% of the population needs to do this to make the regime fall. There’s info on IG, but can’t remember what it’s called.

If we strike, our patients suffer, and our decades-long investments in biomedical research are destroyed. Again, the work done at NIH can’t just be shut down on a whim or picked up by some random replacement - it doesn’t work like that.

Then you're complicit. Can't have it both ways. Resist or be complicit.

You sound like an entitled Occupy Wall Streeter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit.

Not true at all. We do not want all the career people to leave. That would be worse for the American people than what we have now.

But you can all strike. Apparently 3% of the population needs to do this to make the regime fall. There’s info on IG, but can’t remember what it’s called.

If we strike, our patients suffer, and our decades-long investments in biomedical research are destroyed. Again, the work done at NIH can’t just be shut down on a whim or picked up by some random replacement - it doesn’t work like that.

Then you're complicit. Can't have it both ways. Resist or be complicit.

You sound like an entitled Occupy Wall Streeter.

This administration is destroying our country. Helping them is complicity. That's what the word means. Sorry you don't like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit.

Let’s address this for a minute. I work for SSA, which has Musk all over the d@mn place doing g all sorts of illegal sh#t and violating Court orders. My job is to untangle complicate benefits situations for our disabled citizens. Hasn’t changed since musk came— except it’s now more chaotic, I get nasty emails, and it’s generally stressful. Everyone with an off ramp is gone. And I probably would be two, but I’m “mission critical” and two year short of VERA. So here I am. But if I leave, and everyone who does my job leaves, then people with stage 4 cancer doesn’t get benefits they paid for out of FICA and lose their house. So I “tuck grass” every day, take deep breath and serve the public.

Now, I was ordered to money with data or do something else illegal or unethical, I would quit. I DH and I have discussed this as a possibility, and I have resumes out. But for now, it’s the same job I did last year, just 92x as stressful. And most Feds I know across most agencies are in the same position. Their mission is still there is some form, and Elon is making it uncomfortable and unpleasant, but no one is asking them to break laws, violate the constitution, etc.

You want there to be anything left to rebuild in 2028? Quit telling Feds to quit because they happen to work for an agency where Elon is causing havoc. Because Elon is already trying to make the job so awful that we quit without severance. If the American people really don’t want me there, I’m out. My last kid has one year of college. We can move. I have options. But then no one is left to administer benefits.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit.

Not true at all. We do not want all the career people to leave. That would be worse for the American people than what we have now.

But you can all strike. Apparently 3% of the population needs to do this to make the regime fall. There’s info on IG, but can’t remember what it’s called.

No. We can’t strike. It’s actually part of our. Oath of office. The one where we promise to uphold the Constitution (not Musk, not Trump— the Constitution). Striking is illegal. And we’d be fired. That’s the deal. And it may not matter to you, but I went in, and took an oath. So, here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit.

Let’s address this for a minute. I work for SSA, which has Musk all over the d@mn place doing g all sorts of illegal sh#t and violating Court orders. My job is to untangle complicate benefits situations for our disabled citizens. Hasn’t changed since musk came— except it’s now more chaotic, I get nasty emails, and it’s generally stressful. Everyone with an off ramp is gone. And I probably would be two, but I’m “mission critical” and two year short of VERA. So here I am. But if I leave, and everyone who does my job leaves, then people with stage 4 cancer doesn’t get benefits they paid for out of FICA and lose their house. So I “tuck grass” every day, take deep breath and serve the public.

Now, I was ordered to money with data or do something else illegal or unethical, I would quit. I DH and I have discussed this as a possibility, and I have resumes out. But for now, it’s the same job I did last year, just 92x as stressful. And most Feds I know across most agencies are in the same position. Their mission is still there is some form, and Elon is making it uncomfortable and unpleasant, but no one is asking them to break laws, violate the constitution, etc.

You want there to be anything left to rebuild in 2028? Quit telling Feds to quit because they happen to work for an agency where Elon is causing havoc. Because Elon is already trying to make the job so awful that we quit without severance. If the American people really don’t want me there, I’m out. My last kid has one year of college. We can move. I have options. But then no one is left to administer benefits.

Maybe things need to start to break to bring down this regime. Staying and working for the regime IS making you complicit. There were researchers and white collar workers within the Nazi regime as well. Guess what history calls them? Nazis.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit.

Let’s address this for a minute. I work for SSA, which has Musk all over the d@mn place doing g all sorts of illegal sh#t and violating Court orders. My job is to untangle complicate benefits situations for our disabled citizens. Hasn’t changed since musk came— except it’s now more chaotic, I get nasty emails, and it’s generally stressful. Everyone with an off ramp is gone. And I probably would be two, but I’m “mission critical” and two year short of VERA. So here I am. But if I leave, and everyone who does my job leaves, then people with stage 4 cancer doesn’t get benefits they paid for out of FICA and lose their house. So I “tuck grass” every day, take deep breath and serve the public.

Now, I was ordered to money with data or do something else illegal or unethical, I would quit. I DH and I have discussed this as a possibility, and I have resumes out. But for now, it’s the same job I did last year, just 92x as stressful. And most Feds I know across most agencies are in the same position. Their mission is still there is some form, and Elon is making it uncomfortable and unpleasant, but no one is asking them to break laws, violate the constitution, etc.

You want there to be anything left to rebuild in 2028? Quit telling Feds to quit because they happen to work for an agency where Elon is causing havoc. Because Elon is already trying to make the job so awful that we quit without severance. If the American people really don’t want me there, I’m out. My last kid has one year of college. We can move. I have options. But then no one is left to administer benefits.

Maybe things need to start to break to bring down this regime. Staying and working for the regime IS making you complicit. There were researchers and white collar workers within the Nazi regime as well. Guess what history calls them? Nazis.

I guess this is where everyone needs to make an ethical call for themselves. You say— burn it all down. I mean, okay. But I’m guessing you won’t starve if social security checks don’t go out next month. I have 18 years of highly technical social security knowledge and my job has no private sector correlate. I’m not easy to replace. And I am instrumental in getting some of the most vulnerable people in America the money they need for food and groceries and access to Medicaid. If/when I leave SSA (which is an option on the table) I move, go into some sort of municipal or public interest law, and don’t look back. This has been awful, stressful, traumatic and yes, Elon is making it so on purpose, so I quit. I’m not coming back in a year or two, and hoping this doesn’t happen again. Nobody I work with who could find another job would.

As an aside, I’m already deeply concerned that with Elons AI updating our computer systems, they get broken to the point checks stop going out. How much do you want the oldest, poorest and sickest Americans to suffer? How many years of cancer research do you want lost? How much federal parkland do you want gone forever? Do you want Medicare to collapse?

If your answer if yes— any price is worth it, all that tells me is you have very little skin in the game. It’s easy to say shut SSA down if you know where your next meal is coming from. It’s easy to tell NIH to walk if you don’t have a kid in a cancer trial. If these things collapse, it isn’t a government shutdown, where I work unpaid so my claimants don’t suffer, and things are up and running the day after the shutdown ends. It’s a decade or more to get these things back. The economy collapses. The only people who benefit from government anarchy are the Broligarchs.

I hate Elon more than you can imagine. Add Trump to the list. Maybe you would make different decisions than me. And I do have moral lines I won’t cross. And I will not violate laws or legal ethics. There are definitely circumstances under which I do leave. So maybe draw a distinction between people shoving the disabled into gas chambers and people trying to making sure the disabled get a financial stipend for foood and shelter and medical care, despite Elon Musk. Because these just are not the same things. At all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit.

I've worked for NIH for 20 years. I'm not going to throw away my career over this. Would I rather be doing something else right now? Yes. Is the job market terrible because I'm competing with feds who have already been fired? Also yes.

[Anonymous]

For those feds who are going to work, regardless of the office or department, I’m sorry for the additional stress that you were under these days. And I thank you for going in and doing your jobs.

[Anonymous]

I agree it’s not appropriate to ask Feds to strike.

Protest.
Write to and pressure your representatives.
Above all, vote. Encourage everyone you know to vote.

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit.

I've worked for NIH for 20 years. I'm not going to throw away my career over this. Would I rather be doing something else right now? Yes. Is the job market terrible because I'm competing with feds who have already been fired? Also yes.

NP. I'm at NIH and 90% of employees have a similar stance to this comment. Everyone's unhappy about the changes but not enough to meaningfully resist because at the end of the day they just want to keep their job. This is especially true for people in leadership. Some have convinced themselves complying is actually helpful in the long run for continuity of operations, so they do everything​possible to help researchers, topics, and populations that need the least help, at the expense of the vulnerable ones.

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Anonymous wrote:For those feds who are going to work, regardless of the office or department, I’m sorry for the additional stress that you were under these days. And I thank you for going in and doing your jobs.

Second this.