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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you work for NIH and you follow along, then you are complicit. [/quote]

Let’s address this for a minute. I work for SSA, which has Musk all over the d@mn place doing g all sorts of illegal sh#t and violating Court orders. My job is to untangle complicate benefits situations for our disabled citizens. Hasn’t changed since musk came— except it’s now more chaotic, I get nasty emails, and it’s generally stressful. Everyone with an off ramp is gone.  And I probably would be two, but I’m “mission critical” and two year short of VERA. So here I am. But if I leave, and everyone who does my job leaves, then people with stage 4 cancer doesn’t get benefits they paid for out of FICA and lose their house. So I “tuck grass” every day, take deep breath and serve the public.

Now, I was ordered to money with data or do something else illegal or unethical, I would quit. I DH and I have discussed this as a possibility,  and I have resumes out. But for now, it’s the same job I did last year, just 92x as stressful.  And most Feds I know across most agencies are in the same position. Their mission is still there is some form, and Elon is making it uncomfortable and unpleasant, but no one is asking them to break laws, violate the constitution, etc.

You want there to be anything left to rebuild in 2028? Quit telling Feds to quit because they happen to work for an agency where Elon is causing havoc. Because Elon is already trying to make the job so awful that we quit without severance. If the American people really don’t want me there, I’m out. My last kid has one year of college. We can move. I have options. But then no one is left to administer benefits. [/quote]

Maybe things need to start to break to bring down this regime. Staying and working for the regime IS making you complicit. There were researchers and white collar workers within the Nazi regime as well. Guess what history calls them? Nazis. [/quote]

I guess this is where everyone needs to make an ethical call for themselves. You say— burn it all down. I mean, okay. But I’m guessing you won’t starve if social security checks don’t go out next month.  I have 18 years of highly technical social security knowledge and my job has no private sector correlate.  I’m not easy to replace.  And I am instrumental in getting some of the most vulnerable people in America  the money they need for food and groceries and access to Medicaid. If/when I leave SSA (which is an option on the table) I move, go into some sort of municipal or public interest law, and don’t look back. This has been awful, stressful, traumatic and yes, Elon is making it so on purpose, so I quit. I’m not coming back in a year or two, and hoping this doesn’t happen again. Nobody I work with who could find another job would.

As an aside, I’m already deeply concerned that with Elons AI updating our computer systems, they get broken to the point checks stop going out. How much do you want the oldest, poorest and sickest Americans to suffer?   How many years of cancer research do you want lost? How much federal parkland do you want gone forever? Do you want Medicare to collapse?

If your answer if yes— any price is worth it, all that tells me is you have very little skin in the game. It’s easy to say shut SSA down if you know where your next meal is coming from. It’s easy to tell NIH to walk if you don’t have a kid in a cancer trial. If these things collapse, it isn’t a government shutdown, where I work unpaid so my claimants don’t suffer, and things are up and running the day after the shutdown ends. It’s a decade or more  to get these things back. The economy collapses. The only people who benefit from government anarchy are the Broligarchs.

I hate Elon more than you can imagine. Add Trump to the list. Maybe you would make different decisions than me. And I do have moral lines I won’t cross.  And I will not violate laws or legal ethics. There are definitely circumstances under which I do leave. So maybe draw a distinction between people shoving the disabled into gas chambers and people trying to making sure the disabled get a financial stipend for foood and shelter and medical care, despite Elon Musk. Because these just are not the same things. At all.

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